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jwhop
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posted August 06, 2012 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well katatonic, I thought I'd give you the thrill of discovery. That way there would be at least one thing you KNOW which is TRUE to help balance the scales with all those things you KNOW..which are not TRUE!

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posted August 06, 2012 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well katatonic, I thought I'd give you the thrill of discovery. That way there would be at least one thing you KNOW which is TRUE to help balance the scales with all those things you KNOW..which are not TRUE!

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posted August 06, 2012 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in other words, jwhop, you got a big fat NOTHING.

and ami, you can puff up your feathers all you like, but i have been writing like this since WAAAY before you came on the board.

but be my guest, take credit all for yourself. you need it more than i do!

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posted August 06, 2012 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as to roads in colonial times they were mostly old indian trails and horse trails which became established through repetitive use.

i am all eyes and ears for information as to privately built highways, since jwhop obviously knows SOO much more than i!

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posted August 06, 2012 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I got...to put it in your vernacular...is a list of privately owned highways in the United States.

Privately owned highways you could have easily found...before shooting your mouth off..if only you weren't so damned lazy.

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posted August 06, 2012 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
in other words, jwhop, you got a big fat NOTHING.

and ami, you can puff up your feathers all you like, but i have been writing like this since WAAAY before you came on the board.

but be my guest, take credit all for yourself. you need it more than i do!


just don't expect ME to write with NO punctuation OR capitalization


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posted August 06, 2012 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lame conversation.
Conservatives of the forum, sticking your heads in the sand and playing dumb to what Kat has said is ovbious and stupid. You know that a government does maintain most of the roads in this country. Even the "private highways" were turned over to the government when they became unprofitable. Concentrating on "roads" alone is a diversion from the subject, however. It's an focusing of the topic that trades the small picture for the big picture. Obama didn't specify roads as the single thing. There's a whole societal system in place that allows business to happen here. To attempt to speak against that idea is stupid. We all KNOW it to be true. You don't set all of the terms of your business by any reach of the imagination. You have to engage society at large in several ways in order for your business to succeed.

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posted August 06, 2012 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tsk tsk folks!

@jwhop, show me the money! i asked you, not the other way around. you made a declaration but you haven't backed it up.

and ami, SUGAR, i don't know how you do it, but your rate of transfer from someone making a factual comment to you being picked on is fabulous. i have no copyright on posting styles, do whatever you like!

and @ AG exactly. only those bound and determined to see obama as a commie would latch onto this one phrase, taken out of context, and try to rub everyone's noses in it till sundown election day!

we all LIVE IN CONTEXT, the context of our society, and government is the organizing body of that context. the fact that in THIS country we get to vote on what that context means and how it manifests means that the context is WE THE PEOPLE. despite corruption, greed and inefficiency, which all plague ANY large organization or network of organizations. power corrupts and so does money.

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posted August 06, 2012 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ thank you darlink
i am multi talented. i am a gemini after all

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posted August 06, 2012 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, ami, and i would venture to add, probably a nice bunch of women, when you want to enough.

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posted August 06, 2012 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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yes, ami, and i would venture to add, probably a nice bunch of women, when you want to enough.

Yes, I am a nice bunch of woman and a few nuts thrown in

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posted August 15, 2012 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Romney: 'I Don't Give the Bus Driver the Credit' for Kid Making Honor Roll
By Melanie Hunter
August 14, 2012

(CNSNews.com) - GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, appearing at a rally in Zanesville, Ohio, on Tuesday, compared President Barack Obama giving credit to the government for the success of businesses with giving the bus driver credit when a child makes the honor roll.

"If a kid makes the honor roll. I know that that kid could only make the honor roll by getting on the bus and going to school, but if they make the honor roll, I say congratulations to the kid. I don't give the bus driver the credit," Romney said.

"Then there's the other day in Virginia--he (the president) said, 'You know, if you have a business, you didn't build that. Someone else did that,' My goodness! Oh, and then he says he was taken out of context, you know. So take a look at the context. It's worse than the quote, alright--because he says, 'Look, if you think you're successful because you worked hard, a lot of people worked hard. If you think you're successful because you're smart, a lot of people are smart.'

"I couldn't figure out where he was going with this. We celebrate people who work hard and try and do their best in school and get promotions," Romney said.

"And so if you have a business, you built it. If you got a promotion, you earned it. If you made the honor roll, you achieved it. In this country, we are driven by free people pursuing their dreams. We celebrate success. We do not attack success. I will never apologize for success here or success of America abroad," the former Massachusetts governor said.

During a speech in Virginia on July 13, Obama said, "Look, if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own. You didn't get there on your own. I'm always struck by people who think, 'Well, it must be because I was just so smart.' There are a lot of smart people out there. 'It must be because I worked harder than everybody else.' Let me tell you something: There are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen," the president said.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/romney-i-dont-give-bus-driver-credit-kid-making-honor-roll

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posted August 15, 2012 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You find that clever?

I like that at least Romney acknowledges what Obama was trying to say [unlike you]. Yes, it's true, the kid could not make honor roll without the bus that takes him/her to school, nor could the kid make honor roll without the school itself or the teachers therein. Nor could the kid made the honor roll without the tax payer funding for the school/education.

We do laud hard work in this country, and rightly so. Understanding the context and the conditions that make success possible does not undercut a person's achievement. Rather, it celebrates the equal success of the system that allows a person to excel.

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posted August 15, 2012 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
success is great. henry ford knew how to make a success of his company AND he shared it with those who actually BUILT the cars and therefore his business.

romney's way uses the workers' pensions as part of the profit for his investors, and laughs all the way to the bank while those workers...who actually did the work involved in the building the company...watch their town die and themselves with it.

now of course, one could say, why didn't they go somewhere else? but why should they have to? if romney's job was such a success, why do those folk who put in the LABOUR be robbed to make him and other rich folk richer? why does he get to steal half their pensions?

he's not a marxist, he's a feudalist.

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posted August 15, 2012 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, and jwhop...

google comes up with NO private highways here in the usa. perhaps you have found one by now, to remove the accusation of lying braggadocio from your claim?

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posted August 15, 2012 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
apparently david stockman, no leftist, agrees about mitt...(and newt too)...though he doesn't use the word feudal.
http://www.dylanratigan.com/2012/01/23/david-stockman-on-mitt-newt-and-crony-capitalis m/

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posted August 15, 2012 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Didn't say I found anything clever...just true acoustic.

O'Bomber and his Kool-Aid drinking supporters think government is responsible for individual's successes. Romney and the rest of the rational world give credit to the achievers.

If you own a business...YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT...SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT

Perhaps you don't know how to do a simple search katatonic.

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posted August 16, 2012 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Didn't say I found anything clever...just true acoustic.

O'Bomber and his Kool-Aid drinking supporters think government is responsible for individual's successes. Romney and the rest of the rational world give credit to the achievers.

If you own a business...[b]YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT...SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT

Perhaps you don't know how to do a simple search katatonic.[/B]


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posted August 16, 2012 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No one said a word about "building an empire". The operative word in O'Bomber's Marxist tirade is "business".

Here, let me refresh the usual suspect's memories.

if you own a "business"...[b]YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT...SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT.[/B]


You didn't build the road, so you didn't build the business. What is wrong with you, Jwhop

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posted August 16, 2012 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know what's wrong with me Ami.

I know I should be giving credit to others for what little success I've had but I must be wired wrong.

Surely, the fish, chickens and cows deserve the credit...and the carrots, green beans and even broccoli deserve the credit too. I wouldn't be alive without food.

And surely Thomas Edison deserves credit. Without the electric light bulb, I'd be sitting in the dark contemplating my navel.

Oh and let's not forget Nikola Tesla who came up with alternating current.

Oh, and credit should be given to Ponce de León who discovered Florida. Oh and Columbus who discovered America...some say!

Now, the funny thing is that I was eating food uninspected by government and drinking whole (raw) milk and I know that must have warped my thinking. Because...

O'Bomber says I DIDN'T BUILD THOSE BUSINESSES..SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT. AND, O'Bomber is the most intelligent prez ever to infest the White House...some say!

So, my thinking must be warped because I think Barack Hussein O'Bomber is a blithering idiot!

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posted August 16, 2012 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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O'Bomber and his Kool-Aid drinking supporters think government is responsible for individual's successes. Romney and the rest of the rational world give credit to the achievers.

False. Neither Obama nor his supporters think government is responsible for individual's successes. They merely acknowledge the fact that the success is the result of more than simply the individual's hard work.

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posted August 16, 2012 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
I don't know what's wrong with me Ami.

I know I should be giving credit to others for what little success I've had but I must be wired wrong.

Surely, the fish, chickens and cows deserve the credit...and the carrots, green beans and even broccoli deserve the credit too. I wouldn't be alive without food.

And surely Thomas Edison deserves credit. Without the electric light bulb, I'd be sitting in the dark contemplating my navel.

Oh and let's not forget Nikola Tesla who came up with alternating current.

Oh, and credit should be given to Ponce de León who discovered Florida. Oh and Columbus who discovered America...some say!

Now, the funny thing is that I was eating food uninspected by government and drinking whole (raw) milk and I know that must have warped my thinking. Because...

O'Bomber says I [b]DIDN'T BUILD THOSE BUSINESSES..SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT. AND, O'Bomber is the most intelligent prez ever to infest the White House...some say!

So, my thinking must be warped because I think Barack Hussein O'Bomber is a blithering idiot! [/B]


Yes, you should go to the mental institution IMMEDIATELY

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posted August 16, 2012 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Save your bullshiiit for the tourists acoustic.

By now, everyone knows what your little Marxist Messiah said.

If you own a business...YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT..SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT

Hahaha, O'Bomber and his Kool-Aid swilling supporters want to give the credit for business success to teachers..government, roads...government and bridges...government.

In other words all business success has a GOVERNMENT CONNECTION. This is the Marxist viewpoint. Expand government to create success.

As Bugs would say..."what a maroon"!

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posted August 16, 2012 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hahaha, O'Bomber and his Kool-Aid swilling supporters want to give the credit for business success to teachers..government, roads...government and bridges...government.

Once again:

False. Neither Obama nor his supporters think government is responsible for individual's successes. They merely acknowledge the fact that the success is the result of more than simply the individual's hard work.

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In other words all business success has a GOVERNMENT CONNECTION. This is the Marxist viewpoint. Expand government to create success.

All business does have a government connection. That's true.

The rest is false. It's not about expanding government. It's about acknowledging the government's role in its citizen's success. You don't want to live anywhere else, right? Why is that? Because of what the United States is. You don't get to celebrate it when it's convenient for you, and disregard it when you think a Democrat is saying something against business.

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posted August 16, 2012 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is another argument you can't win acoustic...just like all the rest of your failures.

if you own a business, YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT...SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT
O'Bomber to his freeloading supporters in Virginia..talking about the productive citizens among us.

"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher (government) somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads (government) and bridges (government). If you’ve got a business. you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet."

You get no points for making brain dead arguments in support of your little Marxist Messiah.

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