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AcousticGod
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posted August 16, 2012 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I already have won it, Jwhop... by mere virtue of being far more reasonable and practical. You're trying to make it controversial and cling to it, but it's not working. Your candidate is now saying that he understands the point. You're now admitting that you understand the point (to a degree). That doesn't amount to a loss for me.

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if you own a business, YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT...SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT
O'Bomber to his freeloading supporters in Virginia..talking about the productive citizens among us.

Don't denigrate your fellow working citizens as freeloaders. That's not a fair assessment. Any person that has been an employee has contributed to the success of their employer. You can't take that away from them, or diminish that contribution.

Nor can you diminish the society that's been built here under the framework of our Constitution and our Constitutional government.

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You get no points for making brain dead arguments in support of your little Marxist Messiah.

I get no points with you. Any reasonable, rational person, however, would find that I make a hell of a lot more sense than you.

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posted August 16, 2012 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Any reasonable, rational person, however, would find that I make a hell of a lot more sense than you.

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posted August 16, 2012 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"no man is an island"
"we are all in this together"

"i will spend a small fortune on insurance for myself and family, but NOT A PENNY for those who WON'T FEND FOR THEMSELVES..." (never mind that your insurance premiums ARE paying for others, that is what insurance is all about, putting into a pot so all involved can get a better deal...except it doesn't work because so many people refuse to put into those pots, don't they?)


so if romney built bain himself, why does he not take credit for destroying so many companies? he claims he left bain in 99 to go work on the SL olympics, who needed quite a lot of government money to make things work, but he was still sole shareholder and CEO in 2002...

if he is so proud of his success why is he denying it?

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posted August 16, 2012 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you own a business...YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT...SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT
Just more smelly hot air escaping out of the lower orifice of the Marxist twit O'Bomber.

Exclusive: TheBlaze Interviews Deli Owner Who Wore ‘Government Didn’t Build My Business, I Did’ Shirt While Catering For President
August 16, 2012
Benny Johnson


Ross Murty, a small business owner of the Village Corner Deli in Davenport, Iowa, won’t turn down a catering gig, even if he completely disagrees with his client. On Wednesday afternoon that client was the President’s press corp. And while Murty has immense reservations over Obama’s recent “You didn’t build that” comments, he kept quite and let his shirt do the talking.

“I had been wanting to buy one of those shirts before,” Murty told The Blaze in an exclusive interview, “this just seemed like the right time to bring it out.” The shirt reads “Government Didn’t Build My Business, I Did,” and Murty believes every word of it.

Murty has been in the restaurant business for 25 years and started his Deli just five years ago as a start-up venture with a partner. When asked about the president’s comments that inspired the shirt, he didn’t hold back.

“I felt the comments were not only uninformed but uneducated. Basically coming from someone who has had zero business experience, who has no idea what a business owner does in a typical day. What kind of financial risk they take to start a business. What personal sacrifices they make to stay in business.”

Murty clarified that “the indictment is not on him personally, it‘s on the job that he’s doing and the job that he was never qualified to do.”

When asked what he would have said to the President were he to have met him with the shirt on, he said he would have wanted to “sit down and have a thoughtful conversation,” and would have educated the president on the actual struggles of a small business owner.

“Possibly he could learn a few things about sacrifice that business owners make and financial risk that they take and what they actually do bring to the table for this country. Whether somebody was successful it is the fruits of their labor,” he said, before adding that people “of course” help each other but it’s “certainly not the government” who can claim the credit for it.

“The only time the government came to do anything for me was with their hand out,“ Murty said ”A fee for this, a fee for that.” Murty boiled it down by saying “the Government gets in the way.”

When asked about the Obama defense that “roads and bridges” were built by the government, he quickly responded: “with our tax money.”

“That money just didn’t come out of thin air,” he noted, “that money came from tax payers. So it’s not that the government just out of the goodness of its heart built all this stuff. We the taxpayers payed for it.”

In a final question we asked Murty if Michelle Obama would have had a problem with the food he was serving. He chuckles and says,”Yes I do.“ But he adds that the press corps ”loved it.”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/exclusive-deli-owner-who-wore-i-did-build-it-shirt-while-catering-for-president-government-gets-in-the-way/

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posted August 17, 2012 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go Murty!

Great article Jwhop
Maybe some people around here should study your research

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posted August 17, 2012 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Maybe some people around here should study your research"...Ami

That kind of rational thinking would get you lynched in the leftist bubble world of unreality Ami.

The usual suspects are perfectly happy with their delusions and ignorance of fact.

The only thing leftist must know to be members in good standing in leftist circles is that if you oppose Socialism you're a...

racist, religious fundamentalist, fat cat, fascist homophobe.

That's it, that's all and leftists don't know we cracked their codes long ago and know their play book better than they do.

Let's not tell them Ami and they will continue to run the same plays right up to the November elections.

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posted August 17, 2012 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Let's not tell them Ami and they will continue to run the same plays right up to the November elections.

Your mouth to God's ear

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posted August 17, 2012 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The article is not good.

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When asked about the Obama defense that “roads and bridges” were built by the government, he quickly responded: “with our tax money.”

“That money just didn’t come out of thin air,” he noted, “that money came from tax payers. So it’s not that the government just out of the goodness of its heart built all this stuff. We the taxpayers payed for it.”


This illustrates the irony of the position. The government has provided the system under which his business can operate, and, yes, it did so with his taxpayer money. Therefore, his money paid for help, not only in the form of employees, but also in the form of the government, it's laws, and it's pro-business practices. He illustrates quite well that it WASN'T just his work.

You know what might help you guys wrap your heads around this concept? Imagine that Obama had said, "This government is wholly and completely my effort alone. I built this." What would you be saying then? You'd be up in arms illustrating the rational ways that his contention was serially untrue. It would be untrue. It would be obviously untrue. Just like if anyone were to claim that they built their organization or business on their own.

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Maybe some people around here should study your research

Trying to find a "gotcha" article to get your side over the intellectual hurdle you guys seem to have is not research, especially when the article only confirms what Obama was saying: that man didn't build his business on his own. Not from a funding viewpoint, not from a staffing viewpoint, and not from a legal or infrastructure [governmental] standpoint. He had input in all of these areas, no doubt, but he simply did not build his business on his own.

Does anyone disagree?

Jwhop, all your posturing, all your trying to look smart falls a bit flat when we look at what you post.

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posted August 17, 2012 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cannot understand your blindness AG
What vested interest do you have in O'Bomber that you are this blind?

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posted August 17, 2012 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've told you before Ami, if something is easy to explain or prove or disprove, do it. Don't claim that I'm blind without providing an iota of rationale for that claim.

What vested interest do I have in supporting Obama? There are so many reasons why I'll support the Democratic ticket across the board. Most of them have to do with superiority of philosophy, economics, and justice. We've debated all of these things here extensively, and resoundingly Democrats have proven superior. I don't think you know the historical trends for what happens under Democratic versus Republican leadership. It's an awful lot to go over. I can just assure you that I'm on the right side of this equation.

That's not to say that there's no value to Republicans or conservatives or even libertarians. Everyone works to keep a check on everyone else. It's just that our nation does better under Democrats historically.

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posted August 18, 2012 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you own a business...YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT...SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT
Barack Hussein O'Bomber to his freeloading supporters..talking about productive citizens in our society.


August 18, 2012
The Barack Obama Tasting Tour Hits a Bump in the Road
Jeannie DeAngelis

For the last four years, food has taken center stage in the Obama administration. What to eat, what not to eat, what Michelle is eating, what Barack is eating, what Michelle thinks Barack should and should not be eating. The nation has been introduced to locally-grown organic kale, Kretchmar's Bakery, dog-dogs, shaved ice, Wagyu beef, Ray's Hell Burgers, and 1,500-calorie ancho chili short ribs.

Whenever they're on the road, the Obamas make it a habit to ask their 30-vehicle entourage to veer off-course to stop for fresh baked pies and homemade chocolates. Campaign buses have come to a screeching halt for pork chops, beer, hamburgers, Happy Hour, and Skyline Chili. Suffice it to say that for the last four years, every step along the way, food has been a faithful companion to the perpetually hungry Mr. and Mrs. Obama.

That was until Barack Obama, in Roanoke, Virginia, expressed his lack of appreciation for all the hardworking small businesses he frequents when he said:

If you've been successful you didn't get there on your own... I'm always struck by people who think, 'Well it must be because I was just so smart.' There are a lot of smart people out there. 'It must be because I worked harder than everybody else.' Let me tell ya something, there are a whole bunch of hard-working people out there. If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help... If you've got a business, you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen.

Lately, insulted by Obama's attitude, many food establishments that would have normally embraced a visit from the President are more apt to flip over the sign that says "Open for Business" to "Sorry, We're Closed."

For example, if he's in Cincinnati, Ohio Barack Obama had best not stop at Krause's German Deli for dumplings and cabbage. Seems the owner, Debra Krause-McDonnell, is "a little angry" over having her deli show up in an Obama campaign ad without her permission. Krause-McDonnell felt the stock footage purchased from a local video company put her "into a position [she] didn't ask for." Losing business because local customers think she's a Barack Obama supporter and not wanting her deli to be a "political prop for either side," Debra is contemplating legal action.

As for sweet treats, who can forget the first lady declaring, "Someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more?"

With that in mind, if the "food stamp President" should pass through the blue state of Massachusetts for a fundraiser, staging a photo op at Braintree Farmers Market in Walpole might not be a wise idea. Why? Because a baker who occupies one of the booths there is refusing to let customers purchase Whoopee Pies with EBT cards.

It's likely that Barack Obama, who, like his wife, believes in sharing pie, would beg to differ with Andrea Taber, owner of the Ever So Humble Pie Co. Unlike Michelle Obama, Andrea believes "American taxpayers should [not] be footing the bill for people's pie purchases." If she has to, rather than "sacrifice [her] principles and standards for the sake of a few more sales," Ms. Taber is prepared to pack up her stall.

Which brings us to the Iowa state fair, where Barack Obama dropped in on one Mike Cunningham II for an afternoon brew. Using beer as part of his pandering technique, Obama bought a round for 10 supporters, leaving out one fella' carrying a Romney sign. The Obama visit cost the Republican Bud Tent owner about $25,000 in lost revenue. Less than thrilled and echoing Debra Krause-McDonnell's sentiments, Mike said he felt the President had "put [him] in a position to make a campaign donation against [his] will."

Mike Cunningham's bold admission that the President's visit to the Bud Tent at peak hours was something he did not appreciate has emboldened other food establishments to express their true feelings about Barack Obama's anti-business sentiments.

Dressed in a pro-Romney T-shirt that said, "Government didn't build my business, I did." Ross Murty, co-owner of the Village Corner Deli in Davenport, Iowa was hired to cater an event for the Obama campaign. Murty's message to the President: "No one from the government was there when we were sweating it, when we were building this business."

Thus, moving from bratwurst to Budweiser, beef brisket to Whoopee Pie, in Virginia the controversy reached a gastronomical crescendo when Crumb and Get It Cookie Company owner Chris McMurray refused to serve cookies to Joe "Ya'll" Biden.

Openly admitting he disagrees with the Obama administration's policies, having only been in business for three months, much like the Whoopee Pie maker of Walpole McMurray was willing to forfeit new business to stand by his principles.

After respectfully declining the "opportunity of a lifetime," McMurray said he's "hoping folks will understand just didn't want to be part of a photo op for an administration whose policies [I don't] agree with."

Not used to witnessing genuine conviction, "shortly after Crumb and Get It told Biden's advance people 'no' - the Secret Service [allegedly] walked in and told Chris McMurray 'Thanks for standing up and saying 'no' -- then they bought a whole bunch of cookies and cupcakes." That claim was later denied by a spokesperson for the Secret Service.

Nevertheless, Virginia locals seemed appreciative of Chris's rejection and "rewarded McMurray with a rush of business." The fledgling bakery built by Chris and his hardworking wife had an unprecedented boon in business and ran out of baked goods by midday.

In the meantime, Obama is clocking the miles on "Ground Force One," passing signs along the way like the one in Georgia and Broken Arrow, Oklahoma that says: [i]"We built this business without gov't help. Obama can kiss our as*es. I'm Bob Roggendorff and I approve this message." And so, like a pile of French fries and fat cakes on Michelle Obama's plate, it appears the list of small-business eateries eager to have the President drop in for a snack grows smaller by the day.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/08/the_barack_obama_tasting_tour_hits_a_bump_in_the_road.html

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posted August 19, 2012 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG
You see all this research. You see all this true info. You stay as closed minded as a fortress. Jwhop gives you all the researched info you ask of me. Jwhop gets exactly the same info as I would.
You go back to the mainstream media for info to refute it. The MSM is for sheeple. You study Astrology. You should be a free thinker.
I don't get it

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posted August 19, 2012 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ami, FOX is MSM. they may be on a cable station, but they have bought more stations around the country than any "alternative" source.

and if you continue to pretend there is nothing else out there you will continue to be blind...and like jwhop, delude yourself that bill maher is watched for "news content"...

the american thinker is an opinion writer(as is bill maher). as are most of jwhop's posts. like ann coulter, they are more concerned with WIT than FACT.

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When asked about the Obama defense that “roads and bridges” were built by the government, he quickly responded: “with our tax money.”

“That money just didn’t come out of thin air,” he noted, “that money came from tax payers. So it’s not that the government just out of the goodness of its heart built all this stuff. We the taxpayers payed for it.”

he doesn't disagree with obama at all, he just doesn't understand that this is exactly what obama was talking about!

the taxpayers are NOT just himself, but me and you too. in other words, we are all in this together whether you built your individual business or not.

govt ALSO pays unemployment so people can continue to USE his restaurant.

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posted August 20, 2012 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami,

We keep treading the same ground. I don't want to do this indefinitely. It's bad enough that Jwhop brings us back to debates he already lost. We don't need you doing it as well.

I can judge what is true and what is false. Don't sit there and tell me Jwhop is posting "true info" when we all know that it's not. I'm obviously not being close-minded if I'm taking in his argument and refuting it. Close-mindedness would be like you or him listening to an opposing viewpoint, and not being able to rationally argue against it.

The "mainstream media" argument of yours is a false premise. You yourself listen to biased "news", right? When you assume that "mainstream" media is biased, and try to create an accusation out of someone paying attention to that biased news, you are saying, in essence, "You're just like me." Right? That's not a good argument. For accuracy in reporting I'd put "mainstream" media against the stuff you listen to any day, because in the end it's about information. That's what these debates are about. If you demonize a source, but can't argue against that source's content, you've got a losing argument on your hands.

I hope you thoroughly digest this.

You clearly don't understand what is true or false, and every argument you have against the other side is an argument that could be made against you. Close-minded? Check. Pays attention to biased sources of information? Check. Ami Anne, this is YOUR life.

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Yeah, Fox News is the most trusted source of news...hands down!

If you own a business...YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT..SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT...says Barack Hussein O'Bomber. Business owners to O'Bomber..."Kiss my ass"..."I did build that".

I see you still haven't done your homework about private roads and highways in the US katatonic. When are you going to getaroundtoit?

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you're wrong, jwhop, i see no point in doing YOUR homework for YOU. YOU made the statement and refuse to back it up with data. subject dead on arrival!

ami, will you be so kind as to repost ONE piece of RESEARCH you admire from jwhop? so far though you have reposted nauseating numbers of his posts, none of them have been of research...

have you considered talking to anyone about your need to post so much that you don't care what you post?

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posted August 21, 2012 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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you're wrong, jwhop, i see no point in doing YOUR homework for YOU. YOU made the statement and refuse to back it up with data. subject dead on arrival!

ami, will you be so kind as to repost ONE piece of RESEARCH you admire from jwhop? so far though you have reposted nauseating numbers of his posts, none of them have been of research...

have you considered talking to anyone about your need to post so much that you don't care what you post?


I admire everything Jwhop posts. What is the big whoopie to pick one. It would be like choosing your favorite kid

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Hahahaha

The usual suspects keep coming to the plate and striking out. STRIKE THREE!

After striking out, they whine, wheeze, screech, shriek and demand the rules be changed for them to give them additional strikes.

So, being "compassionate conservatives" and because of their disabilities, we give them a break. But that doesn't change the outcome. It just becomes...

STRIKE FOUR
STRIKE FIVE
STRIKE SIX
STRIKE SEVEN
STRIKE EIGHT....

Let's call it what it is.

DEBATE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!

In the meantime, their lips remain super-glued to the butt of the worst president in US history. The president who doesn't dare discuss his record in office with voters. The president who is reduced to demonizing his opponent instead of talking about real issues.

And, taking their marching orders from The One, The Marxist Messish, O'Bomber, that's what the usual suspects are trying to do here too. Demonize the opponent, not talk about real issues.

STRIKE NINE!

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In the meantime, their lips remain super-glued to the butt of the worst president in US history.

I just hope their stoopidity doesn't stick our lips to O'Bomber/O'Traitors butt i.e he is voted back in.
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What business does not use FedEx, or the Brown Truck? Hum, or the United Sates Postal Service?

My guess would be none.

All of them use planes. If I have to flesh that out....air space is controlled by our government. The FAA. So, no business would exist with out government.

The semantics of the *debate* is ginned up, and basically a non starter. Why doesn't the anti Obama crowd use something with legs? There are plenty of them.

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Hahahaha

STRIKE TEN!

Federal Express built Federal Express. O'Bomber didn't build that!

Those Federal Express airplanes were built by Lockheed and Boeing. O'Bomber didn't build those.

Those brown Federal Express trucks were built by private sector industry. O'Bomber didn't build that.

Those highways and streets were built with taxpayer money. O'Bomber didn't pay for that.

The US Postal Service is subsidized with taxpayer money...BILLIONS. O'Bomber didn't pay for that.

The FAA is paid for with taxpayer money. O'Bomber didn't pay for that.

If you own a business...YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT...SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT. This is the real NON-STARTER, the empty headed Marxist zero O'Bomber.

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Yet none of them would exist without government.

you forever miss the point

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Those Federal Express airplanes were built by Lockheed and Boeing... (but govt subsidies sure helped)
Those brown Federal Express trucks were built by private sector industry...
with govt contracts and subsidies helping out
Those highways and streets were built with taxpayer money. ..
The US Postal Service is subsidized with taxpayer money...BILLIONS...
The FAA is paid for with taxpayer money...


exactly. obama never claimed to build any of "that"...but the taxpayers' money, through the AGENCY OF GOVT, did.

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Government subsidies. What government subsidies?

Lay it out...chapter and verse...if you can. Otherwise, you're just blowing more smoke.

If you own a business...YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT...SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT
O'Bomber to his freeloading supporters about the productive members of our society.

Productive members of our society to O'Bomber.

KISS MY ASS. I DID BUILD THAT

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