posted August 16, 2012 09:57 AM            

This is the very same lying leftist who said she and the O'Bomber campaign had no knowledge of who the guy was or the details of his story who accused Romney of killing his wife.

Days later, an audio tape came to light of this very same guy actually talking to Stephanie Cutter months earlier and about the very same allegation. Further, this is the very same guy who was used directly by the O'Bomber campaign to make a campaign commercial for O'Bomber making the very same allegation.

The truth doesn't mean a thing to the lying leftists in the O'Bomber campaign OR to his Kool-Aid swilling supporters.

When Stephanie Cutter says Ryan's Plan takes $700 Billion out of Medicare. Stephanie Cutter is a LIAR.

It's O'Bomber's O'BomberCare which removes $716 BILLION from Medicare. Not only that, but O'Bomber himself admits the Medicare fund was raided to fund his piece of crap called O'BomberCare.

Just to show that there's no intelligent life on the left, Politifact first CONFIRMS WHAT I SAID ABOUT THE RYAN BUDGET PLAN then, says what Cutter says is true too. Two diametrically opposing statements...AND Politifact says they're both true. Hahaha This is the reason rational people don't pay attention to a word coming out of Politifact...or the political rag...formally known as the St Petersburg Times of which Politifact is a part.

I would like to say I'm surprised to see such blatant lies being spread here by the usual suspects, O'Bomber's supporters. I'd like to say that and I'd like to be able to say that but I can't because that's the usual pattern of behavior by leftists here. The truth doesn't count. Only leftist ideology counts.

posted August 16, 2012 10:13 AM            

So what's the Treason Times hyperventilating about?

Well, it sure isn't the utter failure of the O'Bomber presidency.

THE TREASON TIMES IS HYPERVENTILATING ABOUT HOW PAUL RYAN DRESSES FOR CAMPAIGN STOPS.

There really is no intelligent life on the left.

Embracing the Right Fit
By CATHY HORYN
Published: August 15, 2012

..."But one thing bugged me about Mr. Ryan’s appearance on the day of the announcement in Virginia, on the symbolic deck of a battleship. He had on a blazer with an open-neck shirt and dark trousers; Mr. Romney was in his familiar shirt sleeves and a tie. Polished but relaxed. Yet if Mr. Ryan was chosen to bring youth and vigor and a kind of Ayn Rand boldness to the G.O.P., as the commentators kept saying, then his jacket was killing it."....
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/16/fashion/a-look-at-paul-ryans-fashion-sense.html?_r=2&ref=fashion

The drooling morons at the Treason Times aren't "bugged" about the utter failure of their little Marxist Messiah O'Bomber.

Nope, it's the way Paul Ryan dresses that "bugs" the morons.

posted August 16, 2012 10:33 AM            

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[b]Hold on there, Node-y. Don't talk to your better, that way

quite the christian attitude, AA. [/B]

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posted August 16, 2012 11:45 AM            

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Who gives a rat's ass what Cutter says? Cutter is just another lying leftist from the O'Bomber campaign.

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Apparently you do.

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The truth doesn't mean a thing to the lying leftists in the O'Bomber campaign OR to his Kool-Aid swilling supporters.

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Nor to the Romney campaign or its supporters.

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When Stephanie Cutter says Ryan's Plan takes $700 Billion out of Medicare. Stephanie Cutter is a LIAR.

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What she said:
"You know what those cuts are? It’s taking subsidies away from insurance companies, taking rebates away from prescription drug company. Is that what Mitt Romney wants to protect? And interestingly enough Paul Ryan protected those cuts in his budget."

That's not a lie, and there is no rational means of making that out as a lie.

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Just to show that there's no intelligent life on the left, Politifact first CONFIRMS WHAT I SAID ABOUT THE RYAN BUDGET PLAN then, says what Cutter says is true too. Two diametrically opposing statements...AND Politifact says they're both true. Hahaha This is the reason rational people don't pay attention to a word coming out of Politifact...or the political rag...formally known as the St Petersburg Times of which Politifact is a part.

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When you don't properly understand things you come up with twisted viewpoints on things. This is par for the course for you. Politifact confirms that Ryan's plan also reforms Medicare the way Obama's plan did. Ryan tries to split hairs claiming that the savings would be put back into Medicare, but since his budget never passed we can't tell whether that would actually happen or whether that money would be raided for other use.

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I would like to say I'm surprised to see such blatant lies being spread here by the usual suspects, O'Bomber's supporters. I'd like to say that and I'd like to be able to say that but I can't because that's the usual pattern of behavior by leftists here. The truth doesn't count. Only leftist ideology counts.

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You yourself lie far too often to make such a claim. If you weren't constantly misunderstanding and miscategorizing things here, you would have a better chance of getting away with a statement like that, but your misunderstanding of things like this makes it clear that you're not interested in the truth.

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You are easy acoustic. Let me know when you've cracked the definition of MOST and I'll attempt to explain the concept of double negatives to you.

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More wishful thinking. I'll never be easy for you to handle. You lost the "Most" debate as you recall. In fact, you lost it several times over on several occasions because you just couldn't seem to understand how that poll worked.

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Nope, it's the way Paul Ryan dresses that "bugs" the morons.

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posted August 16, 2012 03:05 PM            

A number of prominent ex-Journolist members and reliably left-leaning media lackeys are working overtime, repeating one line over and over to aid the Obama campaign. Namely, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan allegedly are going to end Medicare and leave seniors without coverage. The exact opposite is true, as I'll demonstrate, but even more important is how this is going to turn over on the Obama campaign. It's a hanging curve ball just waiting to be hit out of the park.

First of all, let's start with a simple truth. Medicare is going broke, and if nothing is done, the program will be bankrupt in around a decade.

The Obama administration has accelerated this process by stealing around $716 billion from the program in order to fund a new entitlement, ObamaCare. And contrary to what they're telling you, these are not "administrative costs," but actual reductions in service. ObamaCare is set to destroy Medicare Advantage, a program 12 million seniors use. It is already causing the rationing of cancer drugs and a de facto rationing of care that is going to get a lot worse as the Independent Payment Advisory Boards (IPABs), fifteen unelected government officials, exercise the death panel-style function they were designed for in ObamaCare and cut the payments to doctors and hospitals to the bone so that fewer and fewer of them can afford to accept Medicare patients. It is major rationing for seniors and ultimately the death of a thousand cuts for Medicare as a whole.

It is ObamaCare that was specifically designed to destroy Medicare, and to herd seniors into a one-size-fits-all plan where care to them can be rationed with impunity. And even Dr. Donald Berwick, President Obama's personal choice to run Medicare and Medicaid, admitted that this rationing is one of ObamaCare's ultimate aims, as did Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, one of the president's chief health care advisers.
And unlike the final Medicare reform plan submitted by Paul Ryan, and the one outlined by Mitt Romney, these cuts directly affect current retirees.

Now you know who really wants to push Grandma over the cliff.

By contrast, the plans advocated by Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan save Medicare.

No one over 55 is affected, and people younger than 55 have the option of traditional 1965-style Medicare if they want it...or premium support from government to pay for competing private insurance plans.

If you choose, you can swap today's "defined benefit" Medicare system, where the government decides on the price it'll pay for medical services, for a "defined contribution" system, where the government decides on an amount of money -- "premium support" -- to provide to individual consumers and then lets them choose from an approved set of competing private insurance plans. And there's an open enrollment period each year, allowing people to change their minds if they feel like it.

Not only that, but with this kind of system, there will almost certainly be supplemental plans marketed to those seniors who wish to purchase them along with traditional Medicare.

Now, there's a concept -- giving people the right to choose among insurers seeking Medicare customers for the services seniors feel are most appropriate for their needs, and allowing the competition of the private sector to increase efficiency and drive down costs.

Ah, but what happens if the "premium support" provided to seniors to buy coverage isn't enough, or if the amount's annual growth doesn't keep up with the growth of health care costs?

Wait, it gets better. Walk with me a moment.

First of all, seniors could always choose to opt for the traditional 1965-style Medicare, since the government would still contain a package of required benefits that would constitute comprehensive insurance coverage, just as Medicare does today.

But each year, the plan calls for private insurers as well as Medicare to submit competitive bids to the government to provide coverage at the lowest cost they can sustain profitably. The government would then provide seniors in each region of the country with a "premium support" equal to the second-lowest bid in that region, or one equal to the bid of the federal fee-for-service Medicare program -- whichever is lower.

That way, seniors would be guaranteed to have a choice -- there's that word again -- of at least one comprehensive coverage option that equals the premium support payment offered and that would involve the same level of out-of-pocket costs Medicare does today.

Of course, none of this touches on the huge savings in health care costs that need to be addressed on Medicare fraud (a $8- to $9-billion "industry") or tort reform. We'll call that dessert, to be enjoyed later.

Even nicer is the corner the Democrats have painted themselves into politically.

Ever since 1965, the Democrats have been able to use the Medicare hammer to bash Republicans, using the same old "throwing Granny off the cliff" argument. Certainly it's been used in every campaign since Carter versus Reagan.

Even intelligent leftists, **(where? I've never seen an intelligent leftist)** still don't realize what ObamaCare has done to them. They might realize that ObamaCare cost them the 2010 midterms and that the hugely unpopular legislation is a rallying cry in this one. But they don't seem to realize yet that Medicare isn't their issue any longer.

The Democrats can lie, dissemble, and rant, but they can't change a basic truth. They can either defend ObamaCare, which was designed to destroy Medicare, or they can disavow ObamaCare. They can't do both.

It's President Obama who has put Democrats in the position of being the party that is cutting current seniors' benefits, rationing care (thanks to the IPABs), and letting the program collapse as it becomes unsustainable.

Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have positioned the GOP to be the party that wants to protect seniors' benefits and make them available for future generations.

If you're a senior, the Democrats are offering you nothing except a grim, mean, rationed future when it comes to medical care.

It's the Republicans who are offering a much better deal, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see this being hammered over and over.

Like I said, it's a hanging curve ball just begging to be hit out of the park.

posted August 16, 2012 03:22 PM            

Just one of the factchecks of such information: http://swampland.time.com/2012/08/16/fact-check-obamacares-medicare-cuts/

posted August 16, 2012 03:31 PM            

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Another factually inaccurate article?

Just one of the factchecks of such information: http://swampland.time.com/2012/08/16/fact-check-obamacares-medicare-cuts/

This one is great because it cites information from all over in explaining the effects of the so-called "cuts".

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I can't see how someone can be as blind as you are AG.
It has to be from the past trauma with your father's business, as it makes no sense.

posted August 16, 2012 04:33 PM            

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posted August 16, 2012 06:14 PM            

but those who listen only to one source and refuse to look around for the facts just lying there ready to examine, will always be led astray. this is what jwhop and others count on, most people will never check their bald vitriolic statements...

posted August 16, 2012 06:40 PM            

By Devin Dwyer | ABC OTUS News – 3 hrs ago

Mitt Romney is trying to seize the high ground in the Medicare debate by pledging to "restore" $716 billion in spending cuts imposed by President Obama.

Nevermind that the cuts were once backed by his vice presidential running mate Paul Ryan. Romney argues that it's Obama who has already "ended Medicare as we know it" and he will be the guy to fix it.

"The president has taken action in Medicare which significantly impacts the kind of health care opportunities and benefits that will be provided to current seniors," Romney said today at an impromptu news conference in South Carolina. "Our plan [has] no change for current seniors and those 55 and older."

In staking out that position - calling for a reversal of the cuts, now directed to help pay for Obamacare - Romney is, however, making something of a gamble.

First, Romney appears willing to restore more favorable conditions for "waste, fraud and abuse" - at least in the short term.

Repealing the entirety of the ACA would mean the elimination of new protections already recouping record-high sums of wasted Medicare cash.

Of the estimated $70 billion of Medicare waste in 2010, for example, regulators have recovered an unprecedented $4 billion thanks to the new measures, according to the nonpartisan Center for Medicare Advocacy.

A Romney campaign official explains that the former governor would address the issue of "waste, fraud and abuse" separately, but did not offer specific details. (As has become standard in Romney's campaign. ~AG)

"Once Obamacare has been wiped off the books, America can move forward with patient-centered reforms that improve access and control cost, as well as with entitlement reform that eliminates waste, fraud and abuse while protecting Medicare for current seniors and strengthening it for future generations," the official said.

A bigger issue with Romney's plan to "restore" Medicare cuts under Obamacare could be the impact on the solvency of the program, which was extended by 8 years to 2024 under the health care law.

Restoring the original, higher Medicare payout rates to providers could accelerate the program's path to bankruptcy, experts say - at least until a Romney plan to convert the program into a fixed-benefit, voucher-style system could be put in place.

"Gov. Romney's plan is to repeal Obamacare and replace it with patient-centered reforms that control cost throughout the health care system and extend the solvency of Medicare," said Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul.

"He will then implement real entitlement reform that places Medicare on a sustainable long-term footing so that future generations of Americans will not have to worry whether the program will be there for them," she said.

Romney has only offered broad outlines of his plan, not yet detailing how it would work or how he would pay for it.

Obama campaign spokeswoman Lis Smith said the entire Medicare debate highlights the lack of substance the presumptive GOP nominee has promised to provide.

(Once again, the lack of detail is important enough to mention twice. If you watch former Republican Congressman from Florida on Morning Joe [MSNBC] every morning, you'll know that Joe Scarborough is also constantly lamenting the lack of detail and substance in the Romney campaign. ~AG)

"He's criticized the President's policies that extended the solvency of Medicare by cutting waste, fraud, and abuse, but he's provided no details about how he'd replace them. All we do know about Mitt Romney's plan is that he would end Medicare as we know it by turning it into a voucher system, which could increase health care costs by $6,400 a year. This would be nothing short of a disaster," she said.

For now, Romney appears to be banking on winning the ear of wealthier older folks enrolled in Medicare Advantage programs, which provide extra benefits to traditional Medicare for those who opt-in.

One in four Medicare recipients now have Advantage plans. Romney, backed by a report by the Medicare trustees and several independent experts, claims the Obama spending cuts could impact those benefits, with reduced subsidies to providers meaning higher premiums or fewer extra benefits.

Bill Galston, a former Clinton adviser and senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, didn't dispute Romney's claim outright, though he said "it is speculative, at best."

"Whether the providers will respond by reducing access to services or the quality of those services, or respond the way the administration hopes they will by continuing to deliver the services at a lower profit margin, remains to be seen," Galston said.

posted August 16, 2012 06:53 PM            

By Devin Dwyer | ABC OTUS News – 3 hrs ago

Mitt Romney is trying to seize the high ground in the Medicare debate by pledging to "restore" $716 billion in spending cuts imposed by President Obama.

Nevermind that the cuts were once backed by his vice presidential running mate Paul Ryan. Romney argues that it's Obama who has already "ended Medicare as we know it" and he will be the guy to fix it.

"The president has taken action in Medicare which significantly impacts the kind of health care opportunities and benefits that will be provided to current seniors," Romney said today at an impromptu news conference in South Carolina. "Our plan [has] no change for current seniors and those 55 and older."

In staking out that position - calling for a reversal of the cuts, now directed to help pay for Obamacare - Romney is, however, making something of a gamble.

First, Romney appears willing to restore more favorable conditions for "waste, fraud and abuse" - at least in the short term.

Repealing the entirety of the ACA would mean the elimination of new protections already recouping record-high sums of wasted Medicare cash.

Of the estimated $70 billion of Medicare waste in 2010, for example, regulators have recovered an unprecedented $4 billion thanks to the new measures, according to the nonpartisan Center for Medicare Advocacy.

A Romney campaign official explains that the former governor would address the issue of "waste, fraud and abuse" separately, but did not offer specific details. (As has become standard in Romney's campaign. ~AG)

"Once Obamacare has been wiped off the books, America can move forward with patient-centered reforms that improve access and control cost, as well as with entitlement reform that eliminates waste, fraud and abuse while protecting Medicare for current seniors and strengthening it for future generations," the official said.

A bigger issue with Romney's plan to "restore" Medicare cuts under Obamacare could be the impact on the solvency of the program, which was extended by 8 years to 2024 under the health care law.

Restoring the original, higher Medicare payout rates to providers could accelerate the program's path to bankruptcy, experts say - at least until a Romney plan to convert the program into a fixed-benefit, voucher-style system could be put in place.

"Gov. Romney's plan is to repeal Obamacare and replace it with patient-centered reforms that control cost throughout the health care system and extend the solvency of Medicare," said Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul.

"He will then implement real entitlement reform that places Medicare on a sustainable long-term footing so that future generations of Americans will not have to worry whether the program will be there for them," she said.

Romney has only offered broad outlines of his plan, not yet detailing how it would work or how he would pay for it.

Obama campaign spokeswoman Lis Smith said the entire Medicare debate highlights the lack of substance the presumptive GOP nominee has promised to provide.

(Once again, the lack of detail is important enough to mention twice. If you watch former Republican Congressman from Florida on Morning Joe [MSNBC] every morning, you'll know that Joe Scarborough is also constantly lamenting the lack of detail and substance in the Romney campaign. ~AG)

"He's criticized the President's policies that extended the solvency of Medicare by cutting waste, fraud, and abuse, but he's provided no details about how he'd replace them. All we do know about Mitt Romney's plan is that he would end Medicare as we know it by turning it into a voucher system, which could increase health care costs by $6,400 a year. This would be nothing short of a disaster," she said.

For now, Romney appears to be banking on winning the ear of wealthier older folks enrolled in Medicare Advantage programs, which provide extra benefits to traditional Medicare for those who opt-in.

One in four Medicare recipients now have Advantage plans. Romney, backed by a report by the Medicare trustees and several independent experts, claims the Obama spending cuts could impact those benefits, with reduced subsidies to providers meaning higher premiums or fewer extra benefits.

Bill Galston, a former Clinton adviser and senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, didn't dispute Romney's claim outright, though he said "it is speculative, at best."

"Whether the providers will respond by reducing access to services or the quality of those services, or respond the way the administration hopes they will by continuing to deliver the services at a lower profit margin, remains to be seen," Galston said.

"Health care experts are divided on the question of whether the Obama reductions in Medicare will have negative consequences for beneficiaries," he concluded.
http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-romneys-plan-restore-medicare-spending-cuts-175417283--abc-news-politics.html

And here's Ryan's attempt to weasel out of the fact that his budget copied the Medicare cuts by saying that we voted repeatedly to repeal Obamacare: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/ryan-explains-why-medicare-cuts-were-house-budget-172943914.html

Here Romney says his official plan is "the same, if not identical" to Ryan's Medicare plan: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/16/romney-my-medicare-plan-is-the-same-if-not-identical-to-ryans/

posted August 17, 2012 06:38 AM            

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not to mention that jwhop has himself stated his agenda is basically axe-grinding to get back at "leftists" who were rude about gw back in the day. there is no attention to fact because all he is after is visceral reaction.

but those who listen only to one source and refuse to look around for the facts just lying there ready to examine, will always be led astray. this is what jwhop and others count on, most people will never check their bald vitriolic statements...

as a member of a minority group much persecuted by popular opinion, i am surprised at your lack of discernment, ami.

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You know, Kat, one must listen to one's heart and apply that with one's principles. If not, one is awash in brainwashing, which is the order of the day.

When I see you and AG brainwashed by the mainstream media, it makes me sad. I joke around with my icons, but I really am sad because if the critical mass of people are brainwashed, we are done.

Jwhop is a beacon of shining light in a sea of non thinkers. He has given me a small glimmer of hope that there are still people who think for themselves and I can interact with one, on a daily basis.

You and AG are going to be very sorry, one day, when you get the government you deserve.

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posted August 17, 2012 09:43 AM            

The only candidate in this presidential/vice presidential race who cut Medicare is Barack Hussein O'Bomber. The piece of crap named O'BomberCare takes $716 BILLION OUT OF MEDICARE as a funding vehicle for O'Bomber's Socialist health care insurance. So says the Congressional Budget Office.

All the caterwauling by the usual suspects about Paul Ryan is just the usual blither, blather, bloviation and bullshiiit leftists dump into the atmosphere when the tide is running against their Socialist comrades.

It's not necessary to know anything to be a Socialist. In fact, knowledge is deadly to Socialist thought...if thought can actually be used in the same sentence with Socialist without distorting reality. Thinking is to be avoided at all costs by Socialists.

So, Mitt Romney chose a real number crunching Conservative in Paul Ryan and the usual suspects immediately go into full whine, howl, screech and shriek mode to protect their little Marxist Messiah who is all fluff, no substance and a royal F-up.

posted August 17, 2012 11:51 AM            

For a breakdown of the "cuts"/savings, here's a helpful article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/ 2012/08/14/romneys-right-obamacare-cuts-medicare-by-716-billion-heres-how/

posted August 17, 2012 12:26 PM            

And ditto to what Delilah said about the main stream media. It's not one sided, Ami. As much as you would like it to be. If you only listen to one side of anything, you don't know much of right or wrong. Just what you think based on one viewpoint. Believe what you want to, but don't be ignorant of other information available to you.

Jeesh.

posted August 17, 2012 12:28 PM            

Even the headline at the Washington Compost agrees that O'BomberCare CUTS 716 BILLION DOLLARS OUT OF MEDICARE...AND THE ARTICLE CITES THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE AS THE AUTHORITY/SOURCE FOR THAT NUMBER!

Romney’s right: Obamacare cuts Medicare by $716 billion. Here’s how.

After admitting Romney is right about O'Bomber's stealing $716 Billion from Medicare...senior citizens..to fund his 2700 page boondoggle, O'BomberCare; the Washington Compost attempts to cover O'Bomber's ass by saying the CUTS are SAVINGS. No they're not "savings", they're theft of Medicare funds being paid by everyone into the Medicare fund.

Further, the Washington Compost..and the usual suspects don't understand that Romney and Ryan are not talking about just Repeal of O'BomberCare...which would add that $716 Billion back into the cost of Medicare.

Romney and Ryan are talking about repeal of the insane O'BomberCare AND replacement with a sane health care restructure..as well as a restructure of Medicare.

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No, now you've left the rails. He didn't "steal" anything. No benefits were decreased. No seniors were harmed in the creation of these savings.

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Washington Compost attempts to cover O'Bomber's ass by saying the CUTS are SAVINGS. No they're not "savings", they're theft of Medicare funds being paid by everyone into the Medicare fund.

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Talk about an unbroken string of being wrong. What was SAVED has been mislabeled a cut, and there's no substantiation that I've seen for your contention that they've physically pulled money from Medicare. They've SAVED on the future expense of Medicare. That's what the CBO measured saying that the reform added eight years to the solvency of Medicare. The CBO also reported that Ryan's Medicare reform would add $6350 per year to senior's out-of-pocket expenses.

Now, can you stop being dishonest, Jwhop?

Read this, too:

But the ads raise questions about whether the Republican duo will really be “ending Medicare care as we know it” and increasing “seniors’ health costs by $6,350 a year.”

So ABCNews.com fact-checked the claims for you, and found that they’re generally accurate given the information we have – assuming Romney embraces a plan that’s similar to Ryan’s budget proposal, that is. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/08/15/fact-check-obamas-attack-ad-on-romney-ryan-medicare-overhaul/

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I'm going to have to point out AGAIN that Kat is not a supporter of Obama's policies. She is a NON-supporter of Romney. Does that compute? Just wondering. I think somebody should ACTUALLY be guilty of what they are accused of to be called "brainwashed by the mainstream media". I was chokin on my cheerios over that one.

And ditto to what Delilah said about the main stream media. It's not one sided, Ami. As much as you would like it to be. If you only listen to one side of anything, you don't know much of right or wrong. Just what you think based on one viewpoint. Believe what you want to, but don't be ignorant of other information available to you.

Jeesh.

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Main stream media NOT one sided. This is soooooo untrue that I am at a loss for words

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posted August 17, 2012 02:08 PM            

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It's not SOOO untrue. Some of the most obviously biased media does, in fact, report the points of the other side. Washinton Post is a great example of this. Try looking at one of their non-editorials with an eye for not showing the Conservative viewpoint. I think you'll be surprised.

You've been programmed not to trust traditional/mainstream media, but that doesn't mean that your paranoia is justified.

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