posted August 11, 2012 12:56 PM            

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posted August 11, 2012 03:15 PM            

I for one was surprised by the choice. Baby boomers are going to take a double take here with the privitazion of S.S., vouchers for Medicare and other state slashing of various welfare programs.

Bring it on Mitts & Ryan, show us your stuff; the election is looming.

posted August 11, 2012 04:16 PM            

Anyway, I am just going to say that once because if people don't get it, it is useless to argue about.

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posted August 11, 2012 05:47 PM            

chik fil a has been sued for discrimination against women, non-christians and gays on at least a dozen occasions. this IS the province of govt.

as to ryan, the destruction of many programs that affect women (among others as juni pointed out) and COMPLETE defunding of planned parenthood, plus the robin hood in reverse attitude expressed in his budget proposals, more sucking up to the rich at the expense of the poor.

posted August 11, 2012 06:38 PM            

Congress shall protect life beginning with fertilization. (Jan 2011)
Prohibit federal funding to groups like Planned Parenthood. (Jan 2011)
Grant the pre-born equal protection under 14th Amendment. (Jan 2007)

protecting life beginning with fertilization is basically banning much of birth control, and abortion at any stage.

the record goes on to show how he has voted both for and against many measures within very short time periods. fascinating. he apparently says one thing out of one side of his mouth and another from the other.

FactCheck:Stimulus spending created between 1.4M & 3.6M jobs. (Jan 2011)
Stimulus spending spree created debt but few jobs. (Jan 2011)
America is on an unsustainable fiscal path. (Sep 2010)
Automatic stabilizer spending is mandatory spending. (Jan 2010)
Freeze spending now, rather than in future budget. (Jan 2010)
Road Map for America's Future: cut entitlement spending. (Jul 2009)
Voted YES on terminating the Home Affordable mortgage Program. (Mar 2011)
Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
Voted NO on modifying bankruptcy rules to avoid mortgage foreclosures. (Mar 2009)
Voted NO on additional $825 billion for economic recovery package. (Jan 2009)
Voted NO on monitoring TARP funds to ensure more mortgage relief. (Jan 2009)
Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
Voted NO on $60B stimulus package for jobs, infrastructure, & energy. (Sep 2008)
Voted NO on defining "energy emergency" on federal gas prices. (Jun 2008)
Voted NO on revitalizing severely distressed public housing. (Jan 2008)
Voted NO on regulating the subprime mortgage industry. (Nov 2007)
Voted YES on restricting bankruptcy rules. (Jan 2004)
Balanced Budget Amendment with 3/5 vote to override. (Jan 2009)
Member of the House Republican Economic Recovery Working Group. (Sep 2010)
Chair of House Budget Committee. (Mar 2011)

there's more here http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Paul_Ryan.htm

a twin for mittens!

posted August 11, 2012 06:58 PM            

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well it's off topic but despite my own initial reaction against govt interference with chik fil a, apparently they had more reason and right than was made clear by the news coverage at the moment...

chik fil a has been sued for discrimination against women, non-christians and gays on at least a dozen occasions. this IS the province of govt.

as to ryan, the destruction of many programs that affect women (among others as juni pointed out) and COMPLETE defunding of planned parenthood, plus the robin hood in reverse attitude expressed in his budget proposals, more sucking up to the rich at the expense of the poor.

his voting record is fairly misogynistic.

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posted August 12, 2012 03:05 AM            

I am surprised Christie didn't show more interest.

all in all this is bound to be very entertaining. Ryan won't be as entertaining as -- a Dan Quayle -- [I am old enough to remember him] but popcorn worthy nonetheless.

Re:fairly misogynistic. I would use a stronger term Kat.
The guy is a fruitcake with Extra nuts.

posted August 12, 2012 09:54 AM            

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The only good thing I can say is at least he didn't pick Michelle Bauchman or Scott Walker... Pity, the debates could have made history like the last...

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They would be wonderful choices. Who do you want? Some person who knows nothing about business, is a socialist, a liar and a cheap Chicago thug. OOPS, I forget, he is president

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posted August 12, 2012 01:29 PM            

No one 55 or older would have their Social Security altered by Ryan's plan.

I keep hearing the crap that senior citizens would be forced off Social Security into a private annuity..ie, vouchers.

It's crap, it was always crap and it's not in Ryan's plan and never was.

demoscats should be wetting themselves over Romney's pick of Paul Ryan for VP. He's got O'Bomber/O'Biden covered intellectually, by message, by vision, by planning and factually.

posted August 12, 2012 02:43 PM            

You do have the gift of getting things absolutely wrong..don't you acoustic!

The story of Paul Ryan being picked as Romney's VP was front and center on Drudge...YESTERDAY..as well as others.

August 12, 2012
Paul Ryan and the Triumph of Math
By Clarice Feldman

Luftmensh is a delightful Yiddish word to describe an impractical person who concerns himself with airy intellectual matters and not how to make a living or get things to actually work. I had just decided to make this column on Paul Ryan's nomination about how facts, in this case mathematics, will beat the fantastical notions of the luftmensh in the White House. Remember, Obama began his term as the spinner of naïve hopes and dreams and as those proved unworkable, became the purveyor of fear, anxiety and outright lies. Once again, however, the great Iowahawk beat me to it with this twitter:

"Paul Ryan represent[s] Obama's most horrifying nightmare: math."

Let me remind you how nightmarish Ryan is to Obama. Here's a six-minute take down of Obamacare by Congressman Ryan.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/08/11/Flashback-Ryan-Destroys-Obama-In-6-Minutes?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Watch the vacant look in Obama's eyes as it becomes clear he has no idea how to respond to the facts Ryan raises, to the math which demonstrates the utter unsustainability of Obama's legislative scheme.

And then observe how that look in Obama's eyes turns to rage.

Ryan, a man who does know what's he's talking about on the most important issue before us -- rescuing the economy from Obama's mismanagement and getting America back on track -- has to be Obama's worst nightmare.

(As for Joe Biden, my guess is he should start packing up to leave his office because Obama cannot afford to have as his running mate this time a man obviously chosen only because he was sure never to intellectually show up his boss.)

Fiscal conservatives and libertarians who want to limit the federal government's control of our money and lives are ecstatic. Why shouldn't they be? Here are some of the things Ryan's been heard to say:

"...at the end of the day, Mr. Speaker, I think there's a difference in philosophy here. One side likes to think of the idea of everybody sending their money to Washington, then we go to a back room, and we slice up the money and send it out to favored groups, favored constituents, people we want to be as winners versus those who might be losers. We've got to get out of the game of Washington picking winners and losers in the tax code, because what we do is stifle that entrepreneur who has an idea..."

"...And we've been talking about how much we agree on different issues, but there really is a difference between us. And it's basically this. We don't think the government should be in control of all of this. We want people to be in control. And that, at the end of the day, is the big difference..."

"The facts are very, very clear. The United States is heading for a debt crisis. The only solutions will be truly painful for us all. That doesn't have to be our future. The way we respond to this challenge will ultimately define our generation. We can choose a path to prosperity..."

"...The spending bills that you have signed into law, the domestic and discretionary spending has been increased by 84 percent. You now want to freeze spending at this elevated level beginning next year. This means that total spending in your budget would grow at 300ths of 1 percent less than otherwise. I would simply submit that we could do more and start now...So my question is, why not start freezing spending now? And would you support a line-item veto and helping us get a vote on it in the House?"

"...America is not just a nationality it's not just a mass of land from Hawaii to Maine, from Wisconsin to Florida. America is an idea. It's the most pro-human idea ever designed by mankind. Our founders got it right, when they wrote in the Declaration of Independence that our rights come from nature and nature's God - - not from government. Should we now subscribe to an ideology where government creates rights, is solely responsible for delivering these artificial rights, and then systematically rations these rights?"[/quote]

In contrast with Ryan's notion of a fiscally sound economy, and a limited government not based on a Chicago style thuggish spoils system we have the Luftmensh in Chief saying fascistic nonsense like "you didn't build that" and this:

I said I believe in American workers, I believe in this American industry, and now the American auto industry has come roaring back and GM is number one again. (Applause.) So now I want to do the same thing with manufacturing jobs not just in the auto industry, but in every industry. I don't want those jobs taking root in places like China. I want them taking root in places like Pueblo. [emphasis added]

For those of us who paid attention to what he did to the auto industry: confiscating the pensions of non-union members, destroying the livelihood of Republican GM dealers; managing GM so badly its stock is now valued at 50% of the value it held when we bought it; causing the SP500 and Dow to nosedive as he stood property rights on its head, his words were chilling.
Lubbock online details more of the bone headedness of Obama's claim:

The facts do not support Obama's wild assertions. An analysis posted two months ago by James Sherk and Todd Zywicki shows that the American taxpayers will lose about $23 billion in the Obama bailout of the auto industry and the unions financially ended up with most of the money. The following is the Abstract of this column,

The U.S. government will lose about $23 billion on the 2008-2009 bailout of General Motors and Chrysler. President Obama emphatically defends his decision to subsidize the automakers, arguing it was necessary to prevent massive job losses. But, even accepting this premise, the government could have executed the bailout with no net cost to taxpayers. It could have -- had the Administration required the United Auto Workers (UAW) to accept standard bankruptcy concessions instead of granting the union preferential treatment. The extra UAW subsidies cost $26.5 billion -- more than the entire foreign aid budget in 2011. The Administration did not need to lose money to keep GM and Chrysler operating. The Detroit auto bailout was, in fact, a UAW bailout.

Allowing Obama to take over US industries would be a disaster of incalculable and unimaginable proportions. Obama has shown himself to be incapable of handling taxpayer money, and Obama continues to remain intent on fully controlling the entire economy of the United States. ObamaCare effectively placed health care under full government control, and the majority of Americans want ObamaCare dismantled and discarded.

The United States of America cannot survive many more months of Barack Obama. All the wealth that exists in the United States could not begin to pay for what Barack Obama intends to do to us and to our country.

If the Romney campaign's weak response to a mendacious Obama PAC ad charging him with killing a steelworker's wife -- an ad so bad even CNN and MSNBC couldn't stomach it -- made us fear that he was just another establishment Republican who couldn't and wouldn't fight for us, his choice of vice president was so bold we are forced to re-assess that judgment. Nothing better shows Romney's strength of purpose and clear eyed vision of his role and his campaign than the selection of Congressman Ryan as his running mate.

posted August 12, 2012 07:49 PM            

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They would be wonderful choices. Who do you want? Some person who knows nothing about business, is a socialist, a liar and a cheap Chicago thug. OOPS, I forget, he is president

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You, Ami. I wish that he had chosen you. The debates would have been carnival worthy.

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posted August 12, 2012 11:35 PM            

Well, if you have some actual proof this photo is photoshopped...then trot out your proof.

Oh wait, it's not necessary for something to ACTUALLY be true for leftists to bloviate about it. It only needs to be possible and then, leftists can pretend it IS true...and bloviate endlessly about it.

posted August 13, 2012 12:46 AM            

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You do have the gift of getting things absolutely wrong..don't you acoustic!

The story of Paul Ryan being picked as Romney's VP was front and center on Drudge...YESTERDAY..as well as others.

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That's a stupid thing to say. You think I went around to the Conservative blogs to check? No, I was merely stating that you were at LL yesterday morning, and didn't say a thing about Ryan. I was wondering why that was. I would have thought you'd be all a twitter over the news.

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I keep hearing the crap that senior citizens would be forced off Social Security into a private annuity..ie, vouchers.

It's crap, it was always crap and it's not in Ryan's plan and never was.

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Usually when you declare something is crap, that means it's 100% true. Is that the case here as well? I am seeing stuff about Ryan's SS overhaul everywhere, and I've not seen a factchecker dismantle any claim about Ryan's plan. In fact, one of the first stories out after the announcement was that it might very well decrease Romney's odds in Florida: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/signal/ryan-pick-damages-market-odds-romney-victory-florida-161839811.html

Regarding the license: Obama 1 could very well mean Obama 1-term, which would go splendidly with that Romney sticker. Occam's razor.

posted August 13, 2012 05:10 AM            

There are so many more examples that my mind boggles at trying to figure which to point to. So I'll just include the above examination as just an INTRODUCTION to the war on abortion and women in general by the Republican Party on behalf of fundie Christians and how it's now more about punishing women than any theoretical protection of the unborn.

It blows my mind that even when Republicans & fundies simply make a statement that it's so offensive that in a saner world it would be political suicide. For example:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/13/wisconsin-gop-to-battered-women-dont-get-div orced/

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Wisconsin GOP To Battered Women: Don’t Get Divorced

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Their latest mind boggling evil:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/08/09/kansas-docto r-under-attack-for-not-forcing-ten-year-old-rape-victim-to-give-birth/

I did ask around if the good Christians were also going after the uncle who raped his mentally ill niece as they were the doctor that didn't force the child to have the baby but I got no answer. But I think we all--those of us who live in reality--already know the answer to that. Especially given how other countries with strong Christians values act:
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/05/25/490171/brazil-excommunication-for-a bortion/?mobile=nc

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Church Excommunicates Doctor And Mother Of 9-Year-Old Rape Victim — But Not The Man Who Raped Her

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Ah well, a little humor (of the graveyard kind) on women who vote Republican (at least as of 2010 on):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b_lvSQK4MI

And just in case anyone thinks that's too absurd to be a real parody making fun of what real Republicans have said (those outside of America are excused for thinking it can't be that bad as most other Western nations are much more civilized), then I refer you to this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/27/republican-lies-womens-bodies_n_1374027.html

My mind boggles in thinking that Christians just want to leave people alone...especially CFA that donates millions to interfering in the lives of strangers who are gay (and may donate to far worse and more intrusive political actions). But I agree that it's useless to argue people who would believe such a claim that the fundies are seeking their millions and political power just to leave us alone just as people who would make such absurd claims should not hope that anyone (even many fellow fundies) would believe them. Arguing the facts is like getting into an argument over whether the clear sky during at noon is blue or not. Perhaps such people have confused "liberty" with "tyranny" and so when they impose themselves on others they see themselves as free but when others don't have to obey then they see themselves as imposed upon.

But I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that some women deny what Republicans are doing. Even some Jews stood up for Nazi Germany (details). So if they can fool themselves, then why not a few gays & women believe the Republicans aren't making a war on them as well? If turkeys were sentient I bet they could be convinced to vote for Thanksgiving...at least if they listened to enough propaganda (say, Rush Limbaugh) enough.

posted August 13, 2012 07:54 AM            

Also on Human Events on Saturday...1st day. http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/08/11/paul-ryan-where-things-stand/

Also on DailyCaller on Saturday...1st day. http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/11/coulter-says-ryan-pick-makes-presidential-contest-into-a-1980-election-about-ideas/

Also on the Blaze on Saturday...1st day. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/unfortunate-pick-bush-state-dept-senior-advisor-weighs-in-on-paul-ryan/

That's enough to disprove your silly rant acoustic.

Let's face it acoustic. You're forever shooting your mouth off and there's no there...there in what you say.

Yeah, that Paul Ryan is just a terrible guy; no doubt about it.

He wants innocent babies protected against the homicidal maniac baby killer crowd who not only want to kill babies but want to kill babies in ways the US Supreme Court wouldn't permit for executions of serial killers.

Yep, Paul Ryan must be corrupt for disagreeing with the baby killer crowd and failing to line up with them to kill innocent babies.

Either Ryan is sick or the baby killer crowd is sick and I mean pathologically psychotic.

I don't have a single bit of trouble deciding who the "sick" ones are.

posted August 13, 2012 08:35 AM            

You are missing what is really important like O'Bomber taking away our freedom. That is why you all are drinking the kool-aid. You are being dumbed down imo

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