posted August 20, 2012 12:09 PM            

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posted August 20, 2012 12:18 PM            

Getting caught on an open microphone conspiring with America's cold war enemy to unilaterally disarm America.

posted August 20, 2012 12:40 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Yeah Ami. How embarrassing that must have been for O'Bomber.

Getting caught on an open microphone conspiring with America's cold war enemy to unilaterally disarm America.

We really need an impeachment, a trial, a conviction and removal from the office in the White House O'Bomber has fouled.

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All I could think was "That was God". He has not given up on us yet, even though we deserve it.

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posted August 20, 2012 12:50 PM            

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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
Reducing nuclear weapons is not an uncommon thing for American Presidents. FACT.

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Go see the movie, AG. I am so tired of you talking out of your rear end

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posted August 20, 2012 01:13 PM            

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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
Ami, if you're going to make a claim on something I've said, back it up. Do you disagree that it's common for American Presidents to reduce nuclear weapons?

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Not while countries like the Soviet union and China are INCREASING nuclear weapons. In this climate, O'Bomber is nothing short of a traitor for doing this.

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posted August 20, 2012 01:37 PM            

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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
It wouldn't place us at a technological disadvantage, and I don't think the administration is interested in pursuing a policy that would leave us vulnerable.

Jwhop, don't be retarded with your labels. I'm no Communist.

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O'Bomber WANTS to leave us vulnerable. He hates this country. "America, your chickens have come home to roost"

This is the traitor O'Bombers POV.
America gave him everything--a first class education, elected to the highest office and THIS is how he shows his gratitude

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posted August 20, 2012 01:50 PM            

Under O'Bomber's unilateral disarmament plan America would be left with numerically fewer nuclear weapons AS WELL as old generation nuclear warheads and missiles while Russia and China have already developed new generation warheads and missiles and would have both a numerical warhead advantage and technological superiority.

Your ignorance on most issues must be considered "willful ignorance" because the information to cure your ignorance is readily available.

posted August 20, 2012 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
Back it up, Jwhop. You think I'm just going to accept that you know everything about this subject? Nothing I've read thus far supports what you just said.

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GO SEE THE MOVIE 2016
All the research is in there.

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posted August 21, 2012 09:06 AM            

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posted August 21, 2012 12:25 PM            

No, I am going to continue asking you guys to back up what you say. You both have a history of making comments that aren't supported by reality. Notice that even in this thread I asked Jwhop to back up his claim, and he provided NOTHING. Nothing is not "research". Nothing is nothing.

So you STOP. It's not too much to ask that a person that perpetually gets things wrong back up his statements. Boys that cry wolf have to deal with the consequences.

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posted August 21, 2012 12:50 PM            

I'm not the one listening to a limited amount of biased news. I love watching Morning Joe, and I think Conservative Joe Scarborough (who believes Conservatives aren't Conservative enough) is great. I don't think he's always right, but at least there's a hint of a pragmatic person in there, which is unlike the two Florida conservatives we have in this forum.

Not conservative enough
By JOE SCARBOROUGH | 3/26/12 1:38 PM EDT In the New York Times this Sunday, author Kevin Baker echoed the sentiment of most in the mainstream media that the Republican Party's biggest problem over the past few years has been a lurch to the right. When you judge the party by its bottom line, the fact is that the GOP has not been conservative enough.

What is too conservative about spending the past decade doubling the national debt?

How is an unpaid for $7 trillion Medicare expansion a run to the right?

Will most historians look back on a party who promised to end tyranny across the globe, use American troops as the world's 9-1-1 and engage in nation building on an unprecedented level consider Bush Republicans too conservative or too Wilsonian? Don't waste your time answering. The verdict is obvious.

And for all the weeping and gnashing of teeth I have had to endure over the radicalism of this tea party Congress, to my worried liberal friends I say “take a valium and relax.” This right wing, radical, reactionary tea party crew has meekly gone along with their statist party leaders far too often for my tastes. As a result, they added $1 trillion to the national debt their first year in power and got outmaneuvered by President Barack Obama at every turn.

Too many in the media (and the conservative movement) have been distracted by stupid statements that have been streaming out of a few Republicans' mouths instead of keeping their eyes on the bottom line. When you focus on the one issue that really matters -- individual freedom vs. state expansion -- the GOP fails every test on true, blue conservatism.

And now the party is in the process of nominating the man who was the architect of Obama's health care law.

Too conservative? Actually, not conservative enough.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/joe-scarborough/2012/03/not-conservative-enough-118680.html

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posted August 21, 2012 02:05 PM            

You know why you don't debate politics? Because you haven't done the intellectual work to internalize the positions other people have given you. When you originate an idea it's because you have command of certain facts that inform your new thought. When you give an opinion without the requisite knowledge to back claims, you do as you do: nothing. You figure that someone else who is sufficiently smart has done the work that makes you feel confident in holding certain opinions.

posted August 21, 2012 02:50 PM            

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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
Rush Limbaugh endorses a movie, and you go out and watch it because Rush talked about it, and now you're here claiming that other people are "sheeple". Know thyself.

You know why you don't debate politics? Because you haven't done the intellectual work to internalize the positions other people have given you. When you originate an idea it's because you have command of certain facts that inform your new thought. When you give an opinion without the requisite knowledge to back claims, you do as you do: nothing. You figure that someone else who is sufficiently smart has done the work that makes you feel confident in holding certain opinions.

There's no integrity behind a sheep calling other people "sheeple."

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Jwhop gives you tons and tons of research and you have some MSM ( i.e sheeple) info with which to "refute" it. It is hopeless with you, AG, as my info would be the SAME as Jwhops.
You have a very intelligent man showing you the truth day after day and all you can come up with is sheeple info that only non- thinking people believe.

It is really hopeless.

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posted August 21, 2012 03:42 PM            

I get that you're bored, and looking for someone to talk with you to keep you entertained. I get that, because that's probably why I'm here as well. However, you and I have completely different ways of going about things. You make wild, outrageous statements that lack any hint of objective truth as a means of goading. On the other hand, I actually debate. We're worlds apart in this regard.

You're not in a credible position to talk about "sheeple." A person issuing a 6-week listen-to-Limbaugh challenge doesn't strike ANYONE as an intellectual individual. To further the point, you act as cheerleader to Jwhop stating that he says all you'd say. You're clearly the follower/sheeple.

posted August 21, 2012 04:01 PM            

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