posted August 30, 2012 05:20 PM            

Thanks for noticing what they did to the Ron Paul delegates.

posted August 30, 2012 05:47 PM            

i listen to them all, and almost all of them are ludicrously non-factual opinion pushers...and every employee of a news station will at the VERY least inform you that "bad news sells" and sensationalism sells even better.

posted August 30, 2012 05:52 PM            

This "MOST" argument is just like your "list" argument in the global warming debate: you think that as long as there's SOMETHING you believe to be credible about your argument then you haven't lost. You have, though. When Pew asks people to rate credibility on a scale of 1 - 4 they are going to pick somewhere in that range. Most people won't go extreme in either direction. As "jane says" told you in the initial thread:

Your right Acoustic...It's based on a rubic system...so yes 86 percent of the so called population do have some belief that whatever the NYT prints is true. Sorry jwhop.

Besides Jwhop...21 percent just means they have faith that NYT prints the absolute truth...while the remaining 65 have their doubts much like anyone else does. I mean what are u missing here?

She got it. It's easy to get... unless there's something wrong with your intellect.

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I'm still waiting for you to "set me straight"...with Pew's interpretation of their poll results which you contested with me. You do remember threatening to write Pew personally...just to "straighten me out" don't you acoustic?

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I linked to it as a matter of fact. That you believe you have some sort of gotcha in this defense is rather lame as well. That I can't produce an email that you wouldn't believe anyway does nothing for your argument. Nothing from Pew would disagree with nor diminish the easy analysis required to decipher that poll result. That's why you're more than welcome to contact them with your cockamamy analysis.

The fact remains that NYT's number were in line with all of the other publications in the poll. 86% of the people polled didn't put themselves in the category title "Believe Almost Nothing." That was right in line with the other major news publications in the poll.

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they are so pissedoff at how romney and his gang have treated paul and his delegates, who spent thousands to get to the convention (their own money) only to be dissed on arrival...

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posted August 30, 2012 06:30 PM            

I encourage support among the usual suspect. You need all the help you can get.

But, in the real world..where the rubber meets the road, what I said would happen, did happen, not only to the NY Times but to the other lying leftist organs of faux news as well.

Add to that the absolute drubbing Fox News is giving CNN and MSNBC and they're closing in on NBC, ABC and CBS in viewer ratings and couple that with Fox News being the MOST trusted News Network and the connection between trust and viewership/readership is easily made. Not by you of course acoustic. You couldn't walk through a rainstorm and analyze why your clothes are wet.

The consensus among real climate scientists is that the High Priests of you man made global warming religion are con artists, frauds, hucksters and manipulators of data for grants and profit.

Just hang in there acoustic. When this ride is over, these same con artists will find something else they can save us from. Before man made global warming, it was global cooling.

Now, you and the fat head Algore say there's a consensus. I have a list of 31,487 American scientists who signed a petition saying man made global warming is a crock of shiiite. You show me a list of 31,488 scientists who say man made global warming is a threat to humanity...and I'll agree, you have a consensus..but not before.

posted August 30, 2012 07:06 PM            

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Your problem acoustic is that you interpret support from your fellow usual suspects as being right. The blind leading the blind.

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I'm not the one constantly posting polls with the idea that they convey some fact.

Clearly this is not the blind leading the blind. As I said before, anyone with any sort of intellect can figure this simple poll out. It's a mystery why you can't. You seem to be smart enough to pull it off, but ...who knows what's happening inside your brain?

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But, in the real world..where the rubber meets the road, what I said would happen, did happen, not only to the NY Times but to the other lying leftist organs of faux news as well.

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But we still definitively don't have YOUR proposed cause as the actual cause. That was ALWAYS the problem with your assertion. No one ever said that newspapers would survive the internet. Not here anyway.

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Wow....well, here's your Pew proof. The latest in news credibility:
http://www.people-press.org/2012/08/16/further-decline-in-credibility-ratings-for-most-news-organizations/

First, notice that Pew itself describes column 3 and 4 as "Positive", and 1 and 2 as "Negative." There's the proof that I've been right all along. (That's how rating things on a scale works!)

Second, notice that FoxNews is tied for the least positive credibility ratings alongside NYT, and USA Today. Wah wah goes the trombone. Jwhop loses again. If credibility is tied to ratings, why is Fox's credibility in the crapper?

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This really shouldn't be this easy.

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Hilarious. Yeah, making up stupid arguments for things isn't difficult is it, JWhop?

I don't know if I address your global warming list once again in this thread, but I think it continues to suffice to say that not a single scientific entity in the whole world with climate expertise sides with deniers. If you can't see the inherent silliness in trying to maintain a position against the scientific consensus, there's really no limit to how dumb you can make yourself out as.

posted August 30, 2012 08:04 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:

why else would the murdoch empire sit on the foundations of tabloids and backroom bribes? starting in oz in the 50s and then england, murdoch has turned numerous REAL newspapers into rags, and used those rags to build his riches. FOX is one of the prime examples of how he does business. what doesn't sell, money will buy enough places for until the audience is brainwashed enough to buy.

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Well at least we have some common ground. People ought to look at where their news is coming from, not just become "identified" with certain channels, or parties, or talking heads.

Not to be mean but the Glenn Beck lovers are a breed unto themselves, and when I see 9-12 Project bumper stickers on cars, I just shudder.

posted August 31, 2012 12:53 AM            

That's not the Pew Poll in question..now is it? NO IT ISN'T!

I know how galling this is for leftists..like you and the rest of the usual suspects acoustics But....

Fox News continues to be the most trusted source in television news in America...by a wide margin.

More trusted than CNN
More trusted than MSNBC..but isn't everyone
More trusted than CBS
More trusted than ABC
More trusted than NBC

Oh, and the dictionary definition of MOST is.....

posted August 31, 2012 11:46 AM            

Jwhop, there's nothing quite as infuriating as a person being obtuse.

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That's not the Pew Poll in question..now is it? NO IT ISN'T!

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Duh.

It is the latest version of that poll. This is a poll they've run for years. This latest itteration spells out for you that in a scale of 1 to 4 two entries are positive and two are negative. There's the credible side, and the non-credible side of the scale, or as I said in 2005:

You do realize column 4 says Believe All or Most above it, while column 1 says Believe Almost Nothing above it? It goes from believe to disbelieve left to right.

That it's not the specific poll in question from seven years ago is irrelevant. The question and methodology are the same for both. It's just that they decided to make it clearer, so that people [like you] wouldn't misinterpret it or misrepresent it.

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Fox News continues to be the most trusted source in television news in America...by a wide margin.

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Obviously not, and I do note your hesitance in trying to back that assertion. Obviously Pew confirms with this latest news credibility poll that Fox News is seen in as poor light as the NYT. Sad trombone still says, "Wah wah."

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Oh, and the dictionary definition of MOST is.....

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