posted August 29, 2012 01:09 AM            

To me, the whole power structure and its corruptions and secrets are a more interesting conversation topic than the elections, by far.

posted August 29, 2012 03:16 AM            

That changed dramatically with the formation of the extremist Repub offshoot Tea Party.

~the short answer~

IMO the TP was salted and grown in a corporate petri dish. It was a game changer. Initially these people [much like OWS] had serious charges, they were not only ignored, they were flipped.

Congress approval is- what - 12%?

George Carlin the American Dream

posted August 29, 2012 07:34 AM            

I have a very strong feeling that Romney's financial secrets will be conveniently leaked in the end of September, and there will be a Democratic campaign of utter shock and disbelief at the "financial engineering".
Another 4-5 point swing?
The Republicans have chosen a candidate with a large Achilles Heel in such a vital race.
We could soon be seeing youtube videos with Obama's face morphed on Usain Bolt...

P.S: An interesting trailer of a DVD: http://amormonpresident.com/

55% of respondents say that America is not ready for a Mormon President.
Could there be last minute switches in votes because Mitt is a Mormon?

posted August 29, 2012 11:26 AM            

Intensity of support or opposition can have an impact on campaigns. Currently, 25% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way Obama is performing as president. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove, giving him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -15.

During midterm elections, intensity of support can have a tremendous impact on turnout. That was demonstrated in 2010 when Republicans and unaffiliated voters turned out in large numbers to express opposition to the Obama administration’s policies.

posted August 29, 2012 02:22 PM            

and i just love the way the republicans by-word is how negative and nasty the democrat campaign is...while being negative and nasty themselves.

proclaiming that obama CAN"T run on his record doesn't seem to be stopping him doing so.

and the conservative wish to run all our lives is hoist in its own petard, as they say.

right now, though i resent government intrusion as much as most conservatives, the govt is the only thing we have to rein in the corporate agenda.mitt is norquist's pick, and that alone tells you a great deal. the lobbyist's dream prez who will do as he's told, an obedient pisces dog who will be expected to sit up and beg on order, and roll over too.

obama has plenty of faults, but as faith pointed out, the president is really not the main game - never has been, though if he is inspiring enough he can get "the people" behind what the gov is doing...

posted August 29, 2012 02:55 PM            

And, it's far from "brilliant" of you not to know Rasmussen IS the most accurate polling service since it's been pointed out to you repeatedly over several years AND reported on by media who track such information...which has also been shared with you.

posted August 29, 2012 03:18 PM            

Yeah, we've discussed "likely voters" before. Don't you remember? They don't matter unless they happen to be in swing states where their vote is going to make a difference.

posted August 29, 2012 03:51 PM            

"polls are useless...this poll says so!"

posted August 29, 2012 03:53 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Well, it is "brilliant" to use a poll from the most accurate polling service in the United States katatonic.

And, it's far from "brilliant" of you not to know Rasmussen IS the most accurate polling service since it's been pointed out to you repeatedly over several years AND reported on by media who track such information...which has also been shared with you.

"Brilliant" simply "brilliant".

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posted August 29, 2012 05:08 PM            

Of course you could have commented intelligently...by posting polls of "likely voters" in the swing states over which you are hyperventilating.

posted August 29, 2012 07:14 PM            

All the polls show that I am:

• A. Voted least likely to post a poll.
  

• B. Voted least likely to post a FOX poll.
  
• C. all of the above.

posted August 29, 2012 07:23 PM            

There are many more "registered voters"..who don't wind up voting.

Which is the reason Rasmussen polls "likely voters" only and runs the most accurate polling service in America...as borne out by election results.

Rasmussen also polls on "likely voter intensity". O'Bomber is down -15 on the job approval scale. Strongly approve 25%. Strongly Disapprove 40%.

posted August 29, 2012 07:27 PM            

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I recall you "drooling" over that Pew Poll acoustic AND misinterpreting the results. All because you can't decipher the common dictionary definion of "MOST".

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Well, that's more than a little ill-advised on your part considering the fact that you got your ass handed to you in that debate several times over multiple years (every time you brought it up). It didn't come down to the meaning of "Most" as you mischaracterize it now. It came down to the simple fact that YOU didn't understand how people answer questions when asked to rate something on a scale. Insistance on a categorically irrational stance won't ever re-write history in your favor.

posted August 29, 2012 08:29 PM            

Of course, we both know the reason you didn't. You knew your nonsense interpretation couldn't prevail.

posted August 30, 2012 08:43 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Node:

That changed dramatically with the formation of the extremist Repub offshoot Tea Party.

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What is your criticism of the Tea Party?

My criticisms are:

1) They are astroturf, controlled opposition, created to siphon off support from Ron Paul while couching Ron Paul's popular Constitutionalist approach in neoconservative rhetoric.

2) The Tea Parties ought to love Obama because all of them are neocons. Key neocon WIlliam Kristol, who spoke at Tea Party rallies, once expressed his delight with Obama's warmongering and said "All hail Obama!"

The irony in that joke would be lost on most Americans, who don't see how much Rupert Murdoch, his boy Kristol, Kristol's NGO's like PNAC and FPI, and Obama are all in bed together working to advance the New American Century.

3) All the Tea Party goers I know lack a real understanding of the foundations of our foreign policy, and their professed interest in the Constitution is like empty religious blather. They don't mean it. They are pro-undeclared wars and pro-Patriot Act.

4) And yet many harp on the 2nd Amendment, thinking that will resolve these problems, when it won't.

posted August 30, 2012 10:52 AM            

Stroll back to 2005: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/001559-2.html

2006: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/001688-2.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/001811-4.html
2007: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/002245-3.html
2008: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/003771-7.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/004288.html

Last year:

A question asked people to rate credibility on a scale with credibility on one side, and uncredibility on the other. As I showed in that six year old thread, you selectively left out the two middle columns, which would logically be the most popular choices. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/000831.html

posted August 30, 2012 01:08 PM            

When I straightened you out on your appalling misapplication of the word MOST, you said you were going to contact Pew..you know, to set me straight.

I thought it arrogant in the extreme acoustic that you insisted Pew segment their own poll in a manner agreeable to you.

But, you craw-fished and didn't follow through. No doubt because you realized you can't prevail on any rational, logical basis.

posted August 30, 2012 03:21 PM            

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I thought it arrogant in the extreme acoustic that you insisted Pew segment their own poll in a manner agreeable to you.

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That would be logical if that was what I had done. I didn't though. I correctly identified how they conducted the poll, which you continue to have no answer for. Though the question asked people to rate things on a scale, you've never accepted the truth of what polling on a scale is about.

quote:

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But, you craw-fished and didn't follow through. No doubt because you realized you can't prevail on any rational, logical basis.

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False. There is no evidence that I didn't follow through. There is also no question that Pew would have confirmed that I was always completely correct on the matter.

posted August 30, 2012 04:20 PM            

you still can't define the common English word MOST or you would know conclusively why you're still making a bullshiit argument.

I'm still waiting for you to "set me straight"...with Pew's interpretation of their poll results which you contested with me. You do remember threatening to write Pew personally...just to "straighten me out" don't you acoustic?

But, let's review what's happened in the meantime, shall we?

Just as I predicted, the NY Times has gone into the toilet. Subscriptions are way down, revenues are way down, they had to sell their wonderful building and do a leaseback, they had to borrow money from a Mexican billionaire, they've laid off a ton of staff, their stock price nosedived...and stayed down.

posted August 30, 2012 04:43 PM            

@ faith, last night i heard a ron paul delegate talking to - i think - allen colmes...apparently his people are going to support gary johnson, the libertarian candidate...they are so pissedoff at how romney and his gang have treated paul and his delegates, who spent thousands to get to the convention (their own money) only to be dissed on arrival...

bad move on the part of a candidate who will likely be scraping by IF he has ALL the support of those who don't want obama...with ron paul's electoral folk splitting off the republicans are looking very sad indeed.