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Topic: Nope, No Voter Fraud in US Elections
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 6200 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 11, 2012 02:23 PM
September 11, 2012 Strictly a local problem? Rosslyn SmithA candidate for Congress drops out the race because of a scandal and the story goes no further than the local section of the Washington Post. I suppose it's an improvement that the Democrat is labeled as such in both the headline and the lead paragraph but notice this. Her wrongdoing is something the media insists is not a real problem - vote fraud. A Maryland Democratic candidate quit her congressional race Monday after her own party told state officials that she had committed fraud by voting in both Maryland and Florida in recent elections. Wendy Rosen, a small-business owner running against freshman Rep. Andy Harris (R) in the Eastern Shore-based 1st Congressional District, released a statement saying that "with great regret, and much sorrow" she was resigning from the contest. "Personal issues have made this the hardest decision that I have had to make," Rosen said Rosen's announcement came the same day the state Democratic party released a letter to state Attorney General Douglas Gansler and state prosecutors reporting the allegations against Rosen. "The Maryland Democratic Party has discovered that Ms. Rosen has been registered to vote in both Florida and Maryland since at least 2006; that she in fact voted in the 2006 general election both in Florida and Maryland; and that she voted in the presidential preference primaries held in both Florida and Maryland in 2008," wrote Yvette Lewis, the state party chair. How many voters do what Rosen did? Anecdotal evidence suggests the number may be substantial. College students have the opportunity to do so. So do individuals who own second homes. When it is across state lines it can be hard to catch. In this case a whistle blower seems to have informed Democrat officials of a potential October surprise in time for them to move to replace Rosen on the ballot. A senior Maryland Democrat said the party had been tipped off this weekend by someone within the party about Rosen's potential issue. After checking the allegation, the party contacted Rosen on Monday morning and urged her to quit. Local Democratic committees in the 1st district will now meet and vote on a new candidate to replace Rosen on the ballot. The new name must be submitted to the state by Sept. 27. I have to wonder how she was caught. Given the rather breathless quality of her facebook page, could she have actually bragged to someone about having voted twice? http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/09/strictly_a_local_problem.html IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 9208 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 11, 2012 03:10 PM
do you seriously believe that college students are flying back and forth across the country to vote twice? or that many people in the demographic you suggest is democratic..the poor, the lazy and the underprivileged...have the kind of money that requires?or that it isn't much easier to fudge voting numbers with electronic voting machines than by doing this very expensive, time consuming process? extrapolation=speculation in this case as in most of your suppositions. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 6200 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 11, 2012 10:07 PM
Students and multiple home owners don't have to fly anywhere to vote twice. They vote once by absentee ballot and again by showing up at a local polling location to vote the second time on election day.But, it's instructive that it's demoscats who are forever screeching that there's no voter fraud in the US AND...it's a demoscat..and a demoscat candidate for congress no less who gets caught committing voter fraud....multiple years. IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 2094 From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 12, 2012 02:01 AM
NO ONE HAS STATED THERE IS NO VOTER FRAUDThe reported instances of it occurring however are nearly infentesimal...something like .007 in the last 12 years. Marginalizing the poor, elderly, and disenfranchised vote-- as well as gerrymandering districts is the GOP MO. ------------------ If you have a problem that is not only impossible to solve but also boring, find yourself a fascinating new problem that will render the old problem irrelevant. ~Rob Brezsny IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 6200 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2012 12:03 PM
Nope, NO VOTER FRAUD GOIN ON OUT THERE!Hahaha, and these are just the NON CITIZENS. It doesn't include the felons registered who are in prison or those who have moved out of state and can't vote in Michigan. But demoscats claim there's NO VOTER FRAUD GOIN ON AND THERE'S NO NEED FOR VOTER PHOTO ID. Campaign 2012 September 19, 2012 Secretary of State: 4K noncitizens on voter rolls http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120919/POLITICS01/209190348/1022/POLITICS/Secretary-State-4K-noncitizens-voter-rolls IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 38345 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 19, 2012 01:32 PM
This voter fraud from these people is the BIGGEST thing all people who love America should care about. It is the single biggest factor in this election imo------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Node Knowflake Posts: 2094 From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2012 03:44 PM
How many fraudulent votes have actually been cast using this so called big factor- humm?I would like some documentation, and a number please. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 6200 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2012 05:42 PM
One illegal vote cast is too many and it should be stopped. Photo ID is intended to stop illegal voting and it will.Cross checking absentee ballots with ballots cast in home states...and prosecuting duel voters will stop the rest...as it should be stopped. But, demoscats don't want it stopped. demoscats sure didn't have a problem requiring a photo ID to get into their Convention in Charlotte...now did they!! IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 2094 From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2012 06:11 PM
So, no documentation and no "numbers" Got it. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 6200 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2012 09:27 PM
All I have to do is find ONE illegally cast vote Node...just one and your argument is up in smoke. And Node, I already have done that and a lot more.Every illegally cast vote disenfranchised a legal voter and that can't be permitted to happen...except that demoscats want that to happpen. Now Node, do you recall that woman...demoscat of course...who was a candidate for the House of Representatives...until it was found out she was voting illegally...by absentee ballot AND in a different state in person in national elections. And Node, this demoscat, of course, woman didn't just do that one time but several times over the years. You lose. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 1260 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted September 21, 2012 04:23 AM
The only case I came across was in Florida: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/10/embarrassing-canadian-initiative.html I suppose one can say "even one is too much" but funny how that reasoning counts ONLY when it's convenient, and when it's not then it doesn't count (one example when they think "only a small problem" is ok is when they were giving false claims of "legitimate rape" not causing pregnancy and thus prohibiting abortion to all isn't that big of a deal because "only a few would be forced to give birth to a rapist's child," and even then one Republican said he never heard of even one rape that resulted in pregnancy when like a couple years earlier he voted for a bill under the belief that child rapists were making a habit of impregnating tween girls and forcing them to have abortions after, showing it's whatever is convenient at the time). It just goes to show Republicans aren't the party of truth or principle and they change their standards like the rest of us change our shoes to fit the situation (situational ethics?). I'm not saying Democrats are saints but it does get ridiculous how many Republicans continuously play games with the truth while claiming it's only the Democrats doing it as happens frequently on GU. Don't know if it's psychological projection at work or just old fashion hypocrisy, but it sure isn't integrity. "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." --Jesus IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 9208 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 21, 2012 11:38 AM
and, shock horror, all around the country courts are throwing these voter ID laws out. due to the fact that they basically make voting a privilege to be paid for.unlike attendance at a convention, which is interesting but not a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, voting is for EVERYONE. so if the republicans want to enforce this kind of law they should make the effort to TRANSPORT people who cannot get to their nearest DMV for ID, and PAY for the ID while they are at it. or perhaps this is one expense congress would deem to pass...oh, but i forgot, congress is on vacation until january now! what a pity! IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 6200 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 21, 2012 12:04 PM
The lead story on this thread is about illegal voting...multiple times by a candidate for the US House of Representatives. Read much? In Florida in the 2000 election, felons registered and voted. demoscats loved it. It was found..later that felons voted 87% for demoscats. In Al FrankenLand, some voting districts recorded votes at 110%-125% of registered voters. How in the hell is that possible...without illegal voting? IT'S NOT POSSIBLE AT ALL! In Ohio, the very same thing happened in some voting districts which recorded vote totals exceeding the registered voter total. Again, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE WITHOUT ILLEGAL VOTING. So, for you who say "I can't find any evidence of illegal voting", open your eyes; you're not looking very hard for what you don't want to find in the first place. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 7106 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2012 11:35 AM
GOP Hired Fraud Company to Destroy Voter Registrations of DemocratsPosted by politicol1 day ago Sept. 26, 2012 Why Nathal Sproul is not in jail is a mystery, after a long history of charges he manipulated the 2004, 2008 and now the 2012 Election.
Nathan Sproul stands accused of destroying Democrat Registration forms in the past, has been hired by the Republican party to help Romney win in Florida and other states by fraudulent methods. The Romney campaign hired a company called Strategic Allied Consulting and fired them last night when more than 100 fraudulent registration forms were found in Palm Beach County Florida. But there’s more.
Strategic Allied is a shell company operated by Nathan Sproul. The Florida Supervisor of Elections reported the fraud which included: 1) Shredding Democrat voter registration forms in Florida and other states such as: North Carolina, Virginia and Colorado.
2) The GOP party paid this firm $667,000.00 this year to run campaigns in Florida, that would diminish democratic votes. 3) The Romney campaign hired Nathan Sproul as a political consultant last year knowing full well that he was accused of fraud in the past. 4) Election officials are investigating voter registration cards that were shredded or destroyed by the firm, and signatures were altered or changed on others. 5) Over 106 applications were flagged in a submission batch of 304 turned in on Sept 5, 2012 by the contractor of the Republican party. The Palm Beach Post reported that Strategic Alliance Consultants were paid 1.3 million to register new democrat voters and then switched their votes for republicans. Romney Campaign has Nathan Sproul on their Payroll:
The Palm Beach County Election Supervisor Susan Bucher asked the State Attorney’s Office to review applications because her staff found “similar signatures and missing information like addresses on the forms”. Bucher gave the forms to State Attorney Peter Anonacci and Chief Assistant Paul Zachs on Monday.
The GOP hired Glen Allen for “voter registration services” and were paid $667,698 for the month of July and an identical amount for the month of August. It is unknown how many tainted registration forms this company submitted to election officials but every form needs to be investigated for fraud. The willful tampering with voter registration forms is a felony and punishable by 5 years in jail and a $5,000.00 fine for each instance. The deadline for voter registration in Florida is October 9th and all voters especially in Palm Beach County as well as other states that this company has been involved to check that you are indeed registered to vote and review to whom you submitted your Voter Registration card.
Nathan Sproul has a history of destroying Democratic Voter Registration Forms and has done so in previous elections.
Romney’s campaign has been paying Sproul since last year who goes under various names in different states: Strategic Allied Consulting, and / or Allied Consultants Inc., Lincoln Strategy Group Sproul and Associates Allied Strategic Corporation, or Allied Consulting Inc But his goal is the same: destroy as many as possible of democratic voter registration forms. Sproul worked for Bush Cheney in 2004 and John McCain in 2008 and now Romney in 2012. This man needs to spend some time in jail. The Republic Report indicates: Sproul was paid 7.4 million under Lincoln Strategies in Oregon and Nevada in the 2004 election with George Bush/ CNN, 10/14/04 In Nevada Sproul and Associates did not register democrats under the company Lincoln Strategies and voters found their names missing from the voter rolls. In Arizona, Lincoln Strategies used many fraudulent methods to push a ballot initiative to clean up election laws. / Salon 10/4/04 It is not surprising that the Romney campaign would hire Nathan Sproul due to their desperation to win this election. Updated: Sept. 26, 2012
Apparently, the Romney camp has fired Nathan Sproul’s company called Strategic Allied Consulting who changed their website domain name to a private registration. The original registration information shown below indicates Srategic Allied Consulting . com is directly owned and operated by Sproul & Associates: Thanks to Greg Flynn for capturing this evidence on his website.
The website registration of: strategicalliedconsulting dot com is now private information but did give us this information: Domain Created: June 13, 2012, Expires: June 13, 2013 Administrative Contact: Scott, Brittney : Sproul and Associates Inc., 80 E. Rio Salado Pkwy, Ste. 814, Tempe, Arizona 85201 Phone: (408) 303-7175 Voter registrations for Voters is way down in Florida by a huge margin – Florida registrations have indeed been tampered with most likely by this company. http://www.politicolnews.com/gop-hired-fraud-company-destroy-voter-registrations-of-democrats/#ixzz27gWBKpMu
So, who's out to defraud voters? IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 7106 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 28, 2012 07:01 PM
..Voter registration problems widening in FloridaBy GARY FINEOUT | Associated Press – 13 mins ago.. TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — What first appeared to be an isolated problem in one Florida county has now spread statewide, with election officials in nine counties informing prosecutors or state election officials about questionable voter registration forms filled out on behalf of the Republican Party of Florida. State Republican officials already have fired the vendor it had hired to register voters, and took the additional step of filing an election fraud complaint against the company, Strategic Allied Consulting, with state officials. That complaint was handed over Friday to state law-enforcement authorities. A spokesman for Florida's GOP said the matter was being treated seriously. "We are doing what we can to find out how broad the scope is," said Brian Burgess, the spokesman. Florida is the battleground state where past election problems led to the chaotic recount that followed the 2000 presidential election. The Florida Democratic Party called on the state to "revoke" the ability of state Republicans to continue to register voters while the investigation continues. Oct. 9 is the deadline to register to vote in the Nov. 6 presidential election. "It is clear that the Republican Party of Florida does not have the institutional controls in place to be trusted as a third-party, voter registration organization," said Scott Arceneaux, executive director of the Florida Democratic Party. The Republican Party of Florida has paid Strategic Allied Consulting more than $1.3 million, and the Republican National Committee used the group for work in Nevada, North Carolina, Colorado and Virginia. The company said earlier this week that it was cooperating with elections officials in Florida. It said the suspect forms were turned in by one person, who has been fired. "Strategic has a zero-tolerance policy for breaking the law," Fred Petti, a company attorney, said Thursday. An email request to the company seeking additional comment, following the company's instructions, was not immediately returned Friday. In Florida, it is a third-degree felony to "willfully submit" any false voter registration information, a crime punishable by up to five years in prison. In recent years, Florida's Republican-controlled Legislature — citing suspicious voter registration forms turned in by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN — has cracked down on groups holding voter registration drives. The League of Women Voters filed a federal lawsuit against some of the restrictions and Florida agreed earlier this month to drop a new requirement to turn in registration applications within 48 hours after they are signed. The state has reinstated a 10-day deadline. The questionable forms tied to the Republican Party have showed up in South Florida, including Miami-Dade, as well as counties in southwest and northeast Florida as well as the Florida Panhandle. Election officials in Escambia and Santa Rosa counties on Thursday handed over more than 100 suspect forms to local prosecutors. They did so days after officials in Palm Beach County also alerted prosecutors. Ann Bodenstein, the elections supervisor for Santa Rosa County, said her staff started raising questions after an employee saw a form that changed the home address of a neighbor. Paul Lux, election supervisor for Okaloosa County, said questionable forms in the Florida Panhandle appear to have all come from Strategic's effort based at the local Republican Party headquarters. He said his office has turned up dozens of suspect forms. Lux said there have been forms that listed dead people and were either incomplete or illegible. He met with local prosecutors on Friday, but added that his staff was still going through hundreds of forms dropped off by Strategic employees. Lux, who is a Republican, said he warned local party officials earlier this month when he first learned the company was paying people to register voters. "I told them 'This is not going to end well,'" Lux said. But Lux added that he did not blame the Republican Party of Florida. "I can't place the blame on RPOF if they hired a firm and that firm wasn't following the rules they were given to follow," Lux said. The state party filed the complaint against Strategic Allied Consulting with state election officials, who late Friday handed the case over to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. An FDLE spokeswoman said the agency would not automatically open a criminal investigation, but would review to see if there were "possible criminal acts." http://news.yahoo.com/voter-registration-problems-widening-florida-154156242--election.html IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 6200 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 28, 2012 10:24 PM
Yeah, glad to see Republicans are taking voter fraud seriously and I hope if the facts of the story are right, the fraudsters go to jail. However acoustic, this is grade AAA bullshitte. It never was and cannot be. So exactly where did you come up with this because it sure as hell wasn't in the story you linked to? "The Palm Beach Post reported that Strategic Alliance Consultants were paid 1.3 million to register new democrat voters and then switched their votes for republicans." Registrations have not one damned thing to do with votes or switching votes. Nothing whatsoever. Even registering for one party or the other does not in any way mean the registrant must vote for party candidates. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 7106 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 02, 2012 12:52 PM
It's been all over the news, Jwhop. I don't mind which site you choose to read from. The primary take-away that I'm concerned with is that it was Republican's committing the fraud, not Democrats. I'm frankly surprised that you answered at all...Judge halts Pa.'s tough new voter ID requirement By MARC LEVY | Associated Press – 55 mins ago HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — A judge on Tuesday blocked Pennsylvania's divisive voter identification requirement from going into effect on Election Day, delivering a hard-fought victory to Democrats who said it was a ploy to defeat President Barack Obama and other opponents who said it would prevent the elderly and minorities from voting. The decision by Commonwealth Court Judge Robert Simpson on the law requiring each voter to show a valid photo ID could be appealed to the state Supreme Court. However, Simpson based his decision on guidelines given to him days ago by the high court justices, and it could easily be the final word on the law just five weeks before the Nov. 6 election. Simpson ordered the state not to enforce the photo ID requirement in this year's presidential election but will allow it to go into full effect next year. One lawyer for the plaintiffs said it appeared to be a "win." Election workers will still be allowed to ask voters for a valid photo ID, but people without it can vote on a regular voting machine in the polling place and would not have to cast a provisional ballot or prove their identity to election officials after the election. His ruling came after listening to two days of testimony about the state's eleventh-hour efforts to make it easier to get a valid photo ID. He also heard about long lines and ill-informed clerks at driver's license centers and identification requirements that made it hard for some registered voters to get a state-issued photo ID. The 6-month-old law — now among the nation's toughest — has sparked a divisive debate over voting rights and become a high-profile political issue in the contest between President Barack Obama, a Democrat, and Republican nominee Mitt Romney, for Pennsylvania's prized 20 electoral votes. Pennsylvania, traditionally considered one of the most valuable a presidential swing states, is showing a persistent lead for Obama in independent polls. As a result, the state has been virtually empty of presidential TV ads and off the candidates' beaten paths to more contested states in recent weeks. Pollsters had said Pennsylvania's identification requirement could mean that fewer people ended up voting and, in the past, lower turnouts have benefited Republicans in Pennsylvania. But Democrats have used their opposition to the law as a rallying cry, turning it into a valuable tool to motivate volunteers and campaign contributions while other opponents of the law, including labor unions, good government groups, the NAACP, AARP and the League of Women Voters, hold voter education drives and protest rallies. The voter ID law was a signature accomplishment of Pennsylvania's Republican-controlled Legislature and its Republican governor, Tom Corbett. Republicans, long suspicious of ballot-box stuffing in the Democratic bastion of Philadelphia, justified it as a bulwark against any potential election fraud. Democrats objected furiously, accusing Republicans of using old-fashioned Jim Crow tactics to steal the White House from Obama by making it harder for young adults, the poor, minorities and the disabled to vote. Protests, warnings of Election Day chaos and voter education drives ensued, as the law's opponents began collecting stories of people who had no valid photo ID and had encountered stiff barriers in their efforts to get one from state driver's license centers. It was already a political lightning rod when a top state Republican lawmaker boasted to a GOP dinner in June that the ID requirement "is going to allow Gov. Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania." A wave of new voter identification requirements have been approved in the past couple years, primarily by Republican-controlled Legislatures. The U.S. Supreme Court upheld Indiana's voter ID law in 2008, and Georgia's top court upheld that state's voter ID law. But a federal court panel struck down Texas' voter ID law, and the state court in Wisconsin has blocked its voter ID laws for now. The Justice Department cleared New Hampshire's voter ID law earlier this year, and a federal court is reviewing South Carolina's law. The plaintiffs — a group of registered voters, plus the Homeless Advocacy Project, the League of Women Voters of Pennsylvania and the Pennsylvania chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People — had sought to block the law from taking effect in this year's election as part of a wider challenge to its constitutionality. The constitutionality of the law was not a question before Simpson. Rather, the state Supreme Court had ordered him to stop the law if he thought anyone eligible would be unable to cast a ballot because of it or if he found the state had not complied with law's promise of providing liberal access to a photo ID that voters were required to carry on Election Day. Last week, the Corbett administration overhauled the process for getting a voting-only ID card — an admission that the state had not met the Supreme Court's test for the whether the law should stand. http://news.yahoo.com/judge-halts-pa-tough-voter-id-requirement-135928620.html IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 9208 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 02, 2012 03:42 PM
yes, oh dear oh dear, having brought the spotlight on voter registration fraud the spotlight is showing up more REPUBLICAN FRAUD than anything else...karma kinda nifty, innit? IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 7106 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 02, 2012 03:52 PM
It seems to be more evidence of this trait of assigning their own traits on to others.IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 2094 From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 02, 2012 06:16 PM
The mirror game/deflector shield. It has proved effective. Too effective.JW has provided courses in this technique for years, on this very site. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 6200 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2012 11:23 AM
What republican voter fraud is this...exactly.Pennsylvania votes for Voter Photo ID..and this is Republican voter fraud. Duh! Huh! So now, anyone can vote in Pennsylvania...no ID necessary at all..and without a provisional ballot too. And, their ballots won't be examined or segregated and investigated later. Wow, way to go demoscats. That's good government in action. It just proves what I've said all along. demoscats don't give a damn about good government, don't give a damn about the law, don't give a damn if illegal aliens vote in elections and in fact want to sit up circumstances where illegals can vote. But leftists, that's getting ready to come to a screeching halt. Wait and see. "Most" Americans...there's that word again acoustic..the word you can't define..."Most" Americans would be appalled and will be when they find out...and they will find out. And California has just voted to issue drivers licenses to illegal aliens...so they can vote in US elections. Tsk, tsk, tsk. I know you think of this as "winning" but guess what? You have no idea how this is going to be seen by "Most" Americans because you don't venture outside of your little leftist covens. You don't know that "Most" Americans can quickly draw a straight line between these tactics designed to subvert elections...and demoscats.
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 7106 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 03, 2012 11:33 AM
Posting delusional stuff doesn't do anyone any favors. quote: Pennsylvania votes for Voter Photo ID..and this is Republican voter fraud.
(A question mark should have gone on the end there.) No, voter i.d. only illustrates Conservative attempts at voter suppression. The article about Strategic Allied Consulting shows Conservative voting fraud. Voter ID Rules Fail Court Tests Across Country By ETHAN BRONNER Published: October 2, 2012 841 Comments A Pennsylvania judge on Tuesday blocked the key component of a highly contested state law requiring strict photographic identification to vote in next month’s election, saying the authorities had not done enough to ensure that voters had access to the new documents. The result, that Pennsylvanians will not have to present a state-approved ID to vote in November, was the latest and most significant in a series of legal victories for those opposed to laws that they charge would limit access to polls in this presidential election. With only a month left until Election Day, disputes around the country over new voter ID requirements, early voting, provisional ballots and registration drives are looking far less significant. “Every voter restriction that has been challenged this year has been either enjoined, blocked or weakened,” said Lawrence Norden of the Brennan Center for Justice, which is part of the New York University School of Law and opposes such restrictions. “It has been an extraordinary string of victories for those opposing these laws.” Voter ID laws have been taken off the table in Texas and Wisconsin. The Justice Department has blocked such a law in South Carolina, which has appealed in federal court. In Florida and Ohio, early voting and voter-registration drives have been largely restored. New Hampshire is going ahead with its law, but voters who do not have the required document will be permitted to vote and have a month to verify their identity. Strict voter ID laws remain in Kansas, Indiana, Georgia and Tennessee, but they are not seen as battleground states. And while Pennsylvania seems likely to institute a version of its law in the coming year, it will not affect this election. The Pennsylvania judge who ruled on Tuesday, Robert Simpson of Commonwealth Court, had upheld the law in August when liberal-leaning and civil rights groups challenged it. But the state’s Supreme Court instructed him two weeks ago to hold further hearings to focus on whether enough had been done to ensure “liberal access” to the picture ID cards, which are available at driver’s license centers, or alternatives. Judge Simpson said that on Nov. 6, voters in Pennsylvania could be asked to produce the newly required photo ID but, if they did not have one, could still vote on a normal voting machine, not using a provisional ballot. The state may appeal the decision to the State Supreme Court, but few predicted victory for it, given what the justices had asked of the lower court. The law’s opponents said the victory was only a partial one. “While we’re happy that voters in Pennsylvania will not be turned away if they do not have an ID, we are concerned that the ruling will allow election workers to ask for ID at the polls, and this could cause confusion,” said Penda D. Hair, co-director of Advancement Project, one of the groups that challenged the law. “This injunction serves as a mere Band-Aid for the law’s inherent problems, not an effective remedy.” Hans von Spakovsky of the Heritage Foundation, a right-of-center research group that supports the law, said: “While this may seem to be a win for opponents of common-sense election reform efforts like voter ID, it is actually a loss.” “The court simply found that the state could not effectively implement the ID requirement in only a month,” he added. “The law is still in place and remains valid.” The Pennsylvania law, passed in March without any Democratic support, is one of 11 similar laws around the country approved by Republican-dominated legislatures. The laws’ backers say they are trying to ensure the integrity of the electoral process by preventing fraud. But Democrats accuse them of seeking to suppress the votes of the poor and members of minority groups, who are less likely to have the needed ID or the means to go to state offices and obtain one, and who tend to vote Democratic. In opinion surveys, substantial majorities of Americans back the ID requirements even though repeated efforts to demonstrate the existence of in-person voter fraud have found very little. Pennsylvania is one of a number of swing states that could make the difference in the race between President Obama and Mitt Romney, the Republican candidate. Increasingly, however, Mr. Obama, who won Pennsylvania in 2008, has been pulling consistently ahead of Mr. Romney in key states. A Quinnipiac/New York Times/CBS News poll released last week showed Mr. Obama ahead in Pennsylvania by 12 points. The Pennsylvania law’s challengers said their focus now would be to press the state to alter its voter education campaign to make clear that no picture ID is required in this election. “The state has a large budget to spend on advertising this fact, and we want to make sure it does it,” said Benjamin D. Geffen, a lawyer with the Public Interest Law Center of Philadelphia, which took part in the law’s challenge. Nick Winkler, director of public relations for Pennsylvania’s Department of State, said there would indeed be a change. “Our education campaign is in full swing, and all we have to do is retool it from talking about requiring voter ID to requesting it,” he said. “Poll worker training has not begun in some counties and will now take this into account as well.” The state has issued 13,000 IDs purely for the purpose of voting, Mr. Winkler said. Judge Simpson said in his Tuesday decision that the issuing of the new documents across the state had not been fast enough. “I expected more photo IDs to have been issued by this time,” he wrote. “Under these circumstances, I am obliged to enter a preliminary injunction” preventing the law from being fully carried out. He said there might eventually be a full trial to determine whether the law could be put into effect in a way that did not burden voters. A version of this article appeared in print on October 3, 2012, on page A1 of the New York edition with the headline: Voter ID Rules Fail Court Tests Across Country. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/03/us/pennsylvania-judge-delays-implementation-of-voter-id-law.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 6200 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 11, 2012 12:00 AM
Requiring photo Identification to vote is not voter suppression. It's common sense to protect the integrity of elections...unless of course you're a leftist radical demoscat who wants illegal voting so your guy can win by any means necessary.Nope, no voter fraud in US elections. No sireeeeee not. I mean voting once in person and voting again by absentee ballot in the same election in another state, that's not voter fraud. It's especially not voter fraud if it's set up by and encouraged by the O'Bomber campaign. Then, it's just doing what necessary to win an election that sooooooooo important to all of us. New O’Keefe video: Obama campaign staffer caught helping activist vote twice 10/10/2012 Videographer James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas caught an official for President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign helping who she thought was an Obama supporter set herself up to vote more than once in November. Stephanie Caballero is the regional field director for Obama’s Organizing For America in Houston, Texas. Federal Election Commission documents show, according to Project Veritas, that Caballero is a “salaried employee of the DNC [Democratic National Committee].” Caballero is caught on camera helping the young woman try to vote in Florida and Texas in the upcoming election. “So I spent some time in Florida, and I got my voter registration card for Florida. So and I know that we have you know it’s a battleground state there,” the Project Veritas reporter said to Caballero. “Keep it, keep it… so you’re going to vote by ballot?” Caballero responded. “I’m going to vote by ballot and then I have mine here too,” the videographer answered, adding that: “it just really concerns me that if we don’t do everything we can we’re not going to win.” Caballero then advises: “okay, so you have to make sure because after 60 days you can send in your application to vote by mail ballot.” “So I can print that out for you. On Wednesday I’ll print it out. You just have to mail it or fax,” she added. “Okay, or fax it back in so that I can do,” the videographer responded. “So they’ll send you a mail ballot,” Caballero then said. “A mail ballot, and so, and there’s no way that they would be able to cross reference that?” the videographer then asked. “If you voted twice?” Caballero asked, seeking to clarify, adding, “I don’t know with you. I might just do Florida because in Texas it really doesn’t [count].” Later in the conversation, referencing the voter fraud, the videographer said to Caballero: “And let me know about that. I mean I don’t want to do anything wrong. But if no one’s going to know, like…” “I’ll definitely look into [it]. I don’t want you to get in trouble at all,” Caballero promised. The videographer responded: “Yeah, I don’t want to get in trouble. But like I said, if no one’s going to know I don’t have a problem with it, yeah. So anyway, but…” Caballero then said: “Oh, my God. This is so funny. It’s cool though.” O’Keefe then said “a few weeks later,” his videographer went back to the office to follow up. Caballero gave her a Florida absentee ballot application to “help her vote twice.” After Caballero sets the videographer up to vote in Florida, she asked the Project Veritas investigator: “Are you going to do what I think you’re going do?” The videographer responded: “Well, I mean, if no one’s gonna know…” Caballero audibly laughed, then said: “You’re so hilarious!” “Okay I’m just going to print this out for you,” Caballero then said. “Yeah, because I have several friends who have done that and they said that ‘it’s no problem,’” the Project Veritas videographer said next. Caballero then offers the videographer an excuse to get out of trouble is she gets caught committing voter fraud: “Come up with like if anyone checks say ‘I don’t know.’” “Just because I mean it’s so important everything that we’re doing here is so important that there’s no absolutely no way if I have an opportunity to make my voice heard I’m going to make my vote twice,” the videographer then said. “I’m going to make it heard twice.” O’Keefe claims in video that “wasn’t the only exchange we recorded.” “We visited Organizing For America voter registration tables around New York and Organizing For America headquarters around the country,” he said. The video then cuts to a montage of different clips of Obama campaign volunteers and staffers all over the country helping O’Keefe’s Project Veritas activists get set up to vote twice, a sign there’s likely more to come. The video ends with a challenge for the media: “Put your reputation on the line, journalists. Say this is an ‘isolated incident.’” The Daily Caller could not reach Caballero for comment, despite repeated calls to her cell phone. http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/new-okeefe-video-obama-campaign-staffer-caught-helping-activist-vote-twice/ Nope, there's no voter fraud in US elections so we don't need no stinkin photo ID to vote and we don't need no stinkin cross referencing of absentee ballots either. Besides, it's not voter fraud when it's the O'Bomber campaign who's setting voters up to vote twice in the same election. IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 2094 From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 11, 2012 09:02 AM
Characterizing James O’Keefe as a videographer is like calling Ron Jeremy an actor. Everybody remembers the discredited O'Keefe dressing like a pimp to help take down ACORN. Everybody remembers his break in and arrest: he was sentenced to three years of probation, 100 hours of community service and a $1,500 fine after he pleaded guilty on charges at Sen. Mary Landrieu’s (D-La.) office. Again- in his heavily edited vids no votes were cast, and no voter fraud occurred in either video, yet both doctored films are falsely trumpeted under headlines promising a voter fraud expose. O'Keefe is a weasel. Right Wings attempting to characterize voter fraud as a big issue are lying through their teeth.
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 6200 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 11, 2012 09:09 AM
Excuse me, the video tape says all that needs to be said about the O'Bomber campaign attempting to help persons they think are O'Bomber supporters vote twice in the coming elections.But no one is surprised that a usual suspect is attempting to cover O'Bomber's ass by casting doubt on the video. We're supposed to discount the evidence of our own eyes...and believe the usual suspect. IP: Logged | |