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AcousticGod
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posted September 15, 2012 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No one said there was a SPECIFIC THREAT that a SPECIFIC EMBASSY was going to be attacked. What bullshiit.

"There are other reports which say there was up to 48 hours notice the US Embassy in Libya was going to be attacked" - Jwhop, September 13, 2012

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There were no Marine forces or other US security forces protecting the US Ambassador and Embassy staff at all. Libya is and has been utter chaos and there were threat warnings.

"There is no doubt that the two security contractors killed in Libya along with the Ambassador were from Xe (fka Blackwater)." - YTA, Sept. 14, 2012

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On the anniversary of 9/11 and with warnings of attacks of US Embassies, O'Bomber sat on his thumb.

"According to security sources the consulate had been given a 'health check' in preparation for any violence connected to the 9/11 anniversary." - AcousticGod, Sept. 14, 2012, quoting from an article you posted

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Before the cover-up artists could throw a blanket over this scandal, a high ranking diplomatic official spilled the beans that the State Dept had received a warning 48 hours prior to the attack.

Not only were the Ambassador and 3 other Embassy staff killed but documents were also stolen.


"No one said there was a SPECIFIC THREAT that a SPECIFIC EMBASSY was going to be attacked. What bullshiit." - Jwhop, in the very post I'm responding to.

Now, your latest article goes over this stuff again. It doesn't help your case. It refutes your case. It's the same warning we've been talking about. It's the same preparation for 9/11 that we've been talking about.

Trying to tie Obama to the Muslim Brotherhood for independent acts of either party is bad thinking. Correlation not causation.

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posted September 15, 2012 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GOD FORBID THAT WE SHOULD GET ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD

EH, JWHOP? WE MUST BY ALL MEANS HAMMER THEM INTO SUBMISSION, NONE OF THIS EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL WHEN IT COMES TO NATIONS

TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR ENEMY IS ALSO HUMAN, WHAT A JOKE. AND WHOEVER THINKS THE WORLD COULD BE MADE UP OF PEOPLE GETTING ALONG DESPITE THEIR DIFFERENCES< MUST BE AN IDIOT. KINDOF LIKE JESUS.

AND WE ALL KNOW WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO TRY TO BE BETTER THAN WORMS, OR TO ACTUALLY FOLLOW HIS TEACHINGS, AFTER ALL WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXCUSE OUR IDIOCY BY CLAIMING TO BE "ONLY" HUMAN...

thank god time does not allow us to stand still or live forever.

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posted September 15, 2012 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
GOD FORBID THAT WE SHOULD GET ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD

EH, JWHOP? WE MUST BY ALL MEANS HAMMER THEM INTO SUBMISSION, NONE OF THIS EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL WHEN IT COMES TO NATIONS

TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR ENEMY IS ALSO HUMAN, WHAT A JOKE. AND WHOEVER THINKS THE WORLD COULD BE MADE UP OF PEOPLE GETTING ALONG DESPITE THEIR DIFFERENCES< MUST BE AN IDIOT. KINDOF LIKE JESUS.

AND WE ALL KNOW WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO TRY TO BE BETTER THAN WORMS, OR TO ACTUALLY FOLLOW HIS TEACHINGS, AFTER ALL WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXCUSE OUR IDIOCY BY CLAIMING TO BE "ONLY" HUMAN...

thank god time does not allow us to stand still or live forever.



No Kat

These people only understand force. O'Bomber TRIED being nice to them.That is WHY all this happened. If your enemy does not understand kindness, you must make him respect you enough not to eff with you. Force is needed with certain people. It is how it is, Kat, whether or not you like it.
These people are tribal people who understand tribal methods, only.

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posted September 15, 2012 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I do thank you for making that comparison between O'Bomber and Jesus Christ katatonic.

Now it makes perfect sense to me why leftists consider O'Bomber their Messiah.

I don't need to make the case against O'Bomber acoustic. He's doing a very good job with his incompetence, inattention to detail, apologies for America, hand wringing, dithering and absences from his job.

It would be a very good idea...perhaps..if O'Bomber started attending those "Daily Presidential Intelligence Briefings" instead of playing hooky. Hell acoustic, the "most intelligent president in US history" might have learned something about those impending embassy attacks that would have gotten him off his ass in time to order sufficient Marine security that would have saved the lives of 4 Americans in Libya..one the US Ambassador.

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posted September 15, 2012 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No amount attempted revisionist history is going to change the facts, Jwhop.

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posted September 15, 2012 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it doesn't surprise me that you would put it that way, jwhop. i merely implied that obama's stated POV is more christian than romney's - and by extension, yours. i did not equate HIM with jesus.

however i think those who crow about their CHRISTIAN BELIEFS should make SOME attempt to follow the words and teachings of jesus, not attila the hun!

faith is right, there is no point in talking to you if you are going to continue to make a war out of every conversation.

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posted September 15, 2012 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a feeling that perhaps underneath it all Jwhop understands that his party is unraveling, and that this is his attempt at taking control of the narrative.

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posted September 15, 2012 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as for preparing for those attacks, all embassies in the area were supposedly on the alert for the anniversary of 9/11. whether they followed through or not has nothing to do with what rush limbaugh and his guests like to gossip about vis a vis presidential briefings. i recall condy rice testifying that bush did not consider briefings titled "planned attack inside US" as urgent...

so please, let's not pretend that this incident in libya is more dire than the original 9/11.

@ AG he is reiterating from rush's friday show now...i agree, and it is apparent to me that rush also is in panic mode as he sees the writing on the wall for his influence over the party as it tries to save itself by sacrificing scapegoats

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posted September 15, 2012 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There were no Marines or other US military forces guarding our embassy personnel in Libya...in spite of the warnings given to the United States.

Perhaps if our dunce pres attended his daily presidential intelligence briefings...instead of playing golf, campaigning, talking to "Pimp with the Limp", apologizing for America and all the other...oh so important things he's been doing...rather than doing the job of President of the United States; then, 4 US citizens wouldn't be dead today.

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posted September 15, 2012 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted September 16, 2012 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ron Paul:

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We must learn from these mistakes and immediately cease all support for the Syrian rebels, lest history once again repeat itself. We are literally backing the same people in Syria that we are fighting in Afghanistan and that have just killed our ambassador in Libya! We must finally abandon the interventionist impulse before it is too late.

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/249545-the-libya-fiasco-and-the-folly-of-intervention

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posted September 16, 2012 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:


YES I have this on my FB wall. The Romney FB page has it. I think that was the source for it. Am I right, Ian?

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posted September 16, 2012 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right on YTA Ronald Reagan had the right Rx for terrorism...and a hell of a lot of other things too. Unlike the poor excuse for a president we have infesting the White House now.

katatonic, there are some who have thought and probably still do..that I am Rush. I deny that I am of course but wouldn't that be sweet irony if I were..with you listening to me out of both ears? One here and the other from the Golden Microphone of the Excellence in Broadcasting Network?

Still, there's room in this world for 2 lovable little fuzz balls. However, Rush is a lot nicer guy than I am.

The facts remain facts. On the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks and with at least 48 hours warning to the US to expect attacks against US embassies in the Middle East, Embassy security remained outsourced to Libyan security forces who were not up to the job and no US Marines were guarding our US Ambassador or other personnel.

In Cairo, US Marines were stood down with unloaded weapons while the mob invaded US sovereign territory tore the US flag down, ripped it to shreds and ran the al-Qaeda flag up the Embassy flag pole.

And, O'Bomber apologizes to Islamic extremists for America, America's Constitution and an American who hurt their itty-bitty feelings.

Oh, but it's Mitt Romney's fault for getting what the American response should have been RIGHT!

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posted September 16, 2012 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mitt has a great FB page. He kicks butt, unlike McCain!

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posted September 16, 2012 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 17, 2012 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
libya may have been quiet for 25 years, but gadafi was a thorn often in those years, and i believe it was gw bush who reopened relations with libya and gadafi for reasons of profit...

and the rest of the arab world continued to grow more and more resentful as evidenced by spates of bombings and attacks culminating in 9/11 for us...

10 years before obama made the attempt to consider muslim nations equal in their self-determination to us and other countries who have done their best to keep them down because it is just so good for business to see them as puppets.

but this continual insistence that he "apologized" - that is propaganda.

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posted September 17, 2012 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"i believe it was gw bush who reopened relations with libya and gadafi for reasons of profit..."...katatonic

Is that why Bush reversed US policy towards Qaddafi?

Thanks for straightening us out. The rest of us poor fools thought it was because Qaddafi gave up his nuclear ambitions, gave up his yellow cake which the US and allies airlifted out of Libya and destroyed his delivery systems for chemical weapons and the chemical weapons themselves.

And here we thought Qaddafi didn't want to become another Saddam Hussein.

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posted September 17, 2012 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"i believe it was gw bush who reopened relations with libya and gadafi for reasons of profit..."...katatonic

Is that why Bush reversed US policy towards Qaddafi?

Thanks for straightening us out. The rest of us poor fools thought it was because Qaddafi gave up his nuclear ambitions, gave up his yellow cake which the US and allies airlifted out of Libya and destroyed his delivery systems for chemical weapons and the chemical weapons themselves.

And here we thought Qaddafi didn't want to become another Saddam Hussein.


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posted September 17, 2012 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Revisionist history again:

    Libya’s oilfields would be fully opened up to the West, and U.S. and European banks and corporations could resume tapping the country’s revenue stream. And Gaddafi would publicly renounce his putative nuclear-development program (much of which had never even been uncrated). http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/03/06/can-buy-me-love.html

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posted September 18, 2012 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, Qaddafi didn't give up his nuclear ambitions, didn't destroy his chemical weapons delivery systems, didn't destroy his chemical weapons stocks, didn't let the US and our British allies airlift his yellowcake materials out of Libya and the International and American press just made it all up acoustic.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1220-08.htm

as Bugs would say...god, what a maroon!

Libya: We gave US three-day warning of Benghazi attack
Kim Sengupta
Tuesday 18 September 2012

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/libya-we-gave-u s-threeday-warning-of-benghazi-attack-8145242.html

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posted September 18, 2012 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I was a little kid, I understood human nature better, as little kids can, sometimes.

This whole thing has brought me back to my childhood days. It is a sad thing, but human beings only understand force, sometimes.

It would be nice if "niceness" worked. I would want that as much as anyone. I am gentle, by nature.

However, one has to deal with what is. One cannot put a higher set of values on a lower set of actions.

One must meet what IS with what is necessary.

I pray God will bless us all, people of all groups, in these trying times!

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posted September 18, 2012 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jwhop,
I watched the cell phone video of the Libyan people assisting the removal of Stephens body and the ensuing search for a Dr. Followed by a trip to the hospital. The interview with the man who took the video + the video, was clearly did not indicate a defilement of the body.
To which I say thank God and the rumors will quell.

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posted September 18, 2012 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

News Agencies which say the Ambassador was defiled. People can read both and make their choice of which to believe. God be with us. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2930624/posts

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posted September 18, 2012 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the truth about this attack Juni?

The truth is we don't know the truth at this point but the O'Bomber regime is putting out fairy tale reports which conflict with Libyan reports of a 3 day warning of the pending attack to the US.

Tempers are running high..yes??

Nevertheless, I'm cooling my jets on this subject for the time being in recognition of the fact there's hundreds of millions and perhaps a billion wonderful Muslims here and around the world who don't deserve to be tarred with the same brush as the terrorist extremists. Some of them distinguished themselves in Libya by what they did for our people there under trying and dangerous circumstances to their own lives.

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posted September 18, 2012 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What is the truth about this attack Juni?

The truth is we don't know the truth at this point but the O'Bomber regime is putting out fairy tale reports which conflict with Libyan reports of a 3 day warning of the pending attack to the US.

Tempers are running high..yes??

Nevertheless, I'm cooling my jets on this subject for the time being in recognition of the fact there's hundreds of millions and perhaps a billion wonderful Muslims here and around the world who don't deserve to be tarred with the same brush as the terrorist extremists. Some of them distinguished themselves in Libya by what they did for our people there under trying and dangerous circumstances to their own lives.


Very wise, as always, Jwhop.

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