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jwhop
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posted September 12, 2012 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep and that's exactly what one would expect from the apologist weasel in the White House.

But Sarah Palin has a different take on this situation than the One, The Marxist Messiah O'Bomber and as usual, Sarah Palin is right.

Oh yeah, and we're all supposed to believe these were just spontaneous attacks...at two different locations in two different countries, at two different embassies....AND ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE TERRORIST ATTACKS ON THE UNTIED STATES ON 9/11/2001. Right! Check!

Governor Palin: Apparently President Obama Can’t See Egypt and Libya from His House
Posted on September 12 2012 - 12:26 AM

It was widely reported Tuesday that large groups of Islamic extremists stormed both the U.S. Embassies in Egypt and Libya, killing one U.S. State Department officer. Governor Palin weighed in via Facebook:

Apparently President Obama can’t see Egypt and Libya from his house. On the anniversary of the worst terrorist attacks ever perpetrated on America, our embassy in Cairo and our consulate in Benghazi were attacked by violent Islamic mobs. In Cairo, they scaled the walls of our embassy, destroyed our flag, and replaced it with a black Islamic banner. In Benghazi, the armed gunmen set fire to our consulate and killed an American staff member. The Islamic radicals claim that these attacks are in protest to some film criticizing Islam. In response to this, the U.S. embassy in Cairo issued a statement that was so outrageous many of us thought it must be a satire. The embassy actually apologized to the violent mob attacking us, and it even went so far as to chastise those who use free speech to “hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.” (Funny, the current administration has no problem hurting the “religious feelings” of Catholics.)

But where is the president’s statement about this? These countries represent his much touted “Arab Spring.” How’s that Arab Spring working out for us now? Have we received an apology yet from our “friends” in the Muslim Brotherhood for the assault on our embassy?

It’s about time our president stood up for America and condemned these Islamic extremists. I realize there must be a lot on his mind these days – what with our economy’s abysmal jobless numbers and Moody’s new warning about yet another downgrade to our nation’s credit rating due to the current administration’s failure to come up with a credible deficit reduction plan. And, of course, he has a busy schedule – with all those rounds of golf, softball interviews with the “Pimp with the Limp,” and fundraising dinners with his corporate cronies. But our nation’s security should be of utmost importance to our Commander-in-chief. America can’t afford any more “leading from behind” in such a dangerous world. We already know that President Obama likes to “speak softly” to our enemies. If he doesn’t have a “big stick” to carry, maybe it’s time for him to grow one.

- Sarah Palin
http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/09/governor-palin-apparently-president-obama-cant-see-egypt-and-libya-from-his-house.html

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posted September 12, 2012 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I AM SICK ABOUT THIS. Jwhop, the world is Alice in Wonderland.

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posted September 12, 2012 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't understand why the Ambassador was allowed to be murdered and what the Marines were doing, even though they were severely outnumbered.

Anyway, I don't see a convening of the UN Security Council that he glorifies and serves.

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posted September 12, 2012 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One think they do "right" is that inspire with fear. I don't mean "right" by what they do but they shut people up with fear.


In times with a moral government and a moral president, this would not have happened and if it did, it would not be apologized for.

There would be retaliation and it would be righteous.

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posted September 12, 2012 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
to this day republicans refuse to blame bush and cheney for the attack ON OUR LAND and the death of those thousands of people. yet they jump to trounce obama when an already agitated region of the world gets overheated and 4 people are killed.

bush and cheney ran and ran and ran on "they kept us safe SINCE 9/11" but the president of america is supposed to take the blame for unrest all over the world - IF his name is obama.

there has not been a strike on our home ground in obama's term. but somehow it is due to his immoral outlook that we have suffered abroad.

perhaps missy palin will be happy if we just nuke ALL of the middle east, africa, europe, oh and the US homeland too, since that is the only way to kill all the muslims and killing them is the ONLY way to make them "behave".

palin, and romney, are doing nothing but UNDERCUTTING the authority of our government. they should keep their nosy parker suggestions where they belong, not on the front pages of the media where it is obvious they are just looking for kudos.

were they to actually address the president with their thoughts, that might even prove constructive. as it is, they are just publicity hound-ing and that is the OPPOSITE of helpful.

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posted September 12, 2012 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ami, i would love to know what you are talking about. could you possibly edit the typos from your last post? it is unintelligible...?

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posted September 12, 2012 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A CBS report says the Ambassador was moved to a supposed "safe location" by Libyan security forces...then "they" told the mob of militants where he had been taken. That's the possible reason the Marines didn't fire on the mob. The attack on the Ambassador didn't happen at the Embassy.

In addition to that, who the hell knows what the standing orders for Marines guarding US Embassies these days are with an appeasing weasel in the Oval Office.

The grounds of the US Embassy in Cairo Egypt were breached by a mob, the US flag was hauled down and shredded, then a flag similar to the al-Qaeda banner was run up the flagpole on US Embassy grounds. No shots were fired by Marine Embassy guards.

So exactly what are their standing orders from O'Bomber..their commander in chief, to protect the sovereignty of US territory?

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posted September 12, 2012 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was a disgustingly evil attack by a very evil bunch of thugs. Christopher Stephens was a true friend of the Arabs and was genuinely interested in the development of Libya.

The Arab World cannot get a better Human Being as an Ambassador. The loss is irreplaceable.

Our thoughts and prayers should be with the families of the departed. They deserved so much better. I hope the Government of Libya brings these cowardly terrorists to justice.

If some nutcase makes up some lies against any religion, the response should be an educated rebuttal using the same medium , not a terrorist attack.

If you do not like a video, do not see it. If you do not like a cartoon, turn the page.


I hope all right thinking Muslims unequivocally condemn such barbaric acts in the name of religion.

And I also hope right thinking Americans sue Terry Jones in Court. He knows fully well about how some terrorist barbarians would behave at such provocation and how they would lick their lips to retaliate with bloodlust when he gives them the opportunity. He too has blood on his hands. What has he gained by the death of these brave, innocent Americans? Why does he want to make every innocent American outside the US Border a target of hate attacks by Terrorists?

Edit: I just do not understand why the Marines did not retaliate against the terrorists. They should have taken them down. I hope this is not a CIA Op to eliminate Christopher Stephens using Libyan terrorists.

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posted September 12, 2012 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
A CBS report says the Ambassador was moved to a supposed "safe location" by Libyan security forces...then "they" told the mob of militants where he had been taken. That's the possible reason the Marines didn't fire on the mob. The attack on the Ambassador didn't happen at the Embassy.

In addition to that, who the hell knows what the standing orders for Marines guarding US Embassies these days are with an appeasing weasel in the Oval Office.

The grounds of the US Embassy in Cairo Egypt were breached by a mob, the US flag was hauled down and shredded, then a flag similar to the al-Qaeda banner was run up the flagpole on US Embassy grounds. No shots were fired by Marine Embassy guards.

So exactly what are their standing orders from O'Bomber..their commander in chief, to protect the sovereignty of US territory?


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posted September 12, 2012 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the Moderate Muslims stand up, the same thing will happen to them. They are in as bad as a position as everyone else.

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posted September 12, 2012 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting theory, ami, and i understand that many consider it to be true. HOWEVER i still believe there are FAR MORE MODERATE muslims than extremists...they are in a position to actually KNOW WHO the extremists are, and they COULD stop them if they had less fear, and more back up.

however the current climate (exemplified by this film that so many consider irrelevant) is that NO ONE CAN TRUST ANY muslim, they are all monsters.

so that "back-up" is hard to find and the fear continues to hold their hands tied (the moderates')..

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posted September 12, 2012 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been doing a lot of soul searching, lately, as I feel God is gearing me up to be more outspoken which I don't want, at all. I am a true Cancer Mars and a Libra ASC.

The radical Islam element takes the Koran, literally. There is a sanitized version in American bookstores but the original version is the version the radicals follow, to the letter. The Moderate Muslims are a bigger enemy than the infidel( Christian, Jew, non radical Muslim)

These people who did 9-1-1 and this murder in Libya are the radicals. They want to put Shuryea(sp) Law every place, including the US.

The moderate Muslim cannot speak out or he will be targeted.

People don't realize what we are up against. I feel like I am being led to talk about it and it is the last thing I want to do, quite frankly.

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posted September 12, 2012 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://front.moveon.org/the-one-where-jon-stewa rt-does-a-better-job-reporting-the-truth-about-911-than-the-news-does/?rc=dtwcap

this clip is not new. it is jon stewart but the subject is condy rice's interview with the 9/11 commission and the main event is that interview with condoleeza - so if you can stand or ignore stewarts personality it says a lot about what did and didn't happen in 01.

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ami our only hope is really the moderate muslims. they are the ones who know who is who, who are close enough and able to get in under the guard of those who would continue this.

and romney getting all righteous and outraged does not help those moderates feel they can trust US.

it is about time he and palin et al put aside their ambitions and get BEHIND the govt in whatever way they can, even if by disagreeing...in a DISCREET way.

**shari'iya law is not wanted by most muslims, let alone the countries to which muslims have emigrated (to get away from it).

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posted September 12, 2012 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The Moderates CANNOT stand up. They will get what this Ambassador got.

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posted September 12, 2012 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one is going to sue anyone in a US court of law for expressing an opionion about a religion...or much of anything else. And if someone attempts to bring such a suit, it will be and should be thrown out.

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posted September 12, 2012 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The radical Islam element takes the Koran, literally. There is a sanitized version in American bookstores but the original version is the version the radicals follow, to the letter. The Moderate Muslims are a bigger enemy than the infidel( Christian, Jew, non radical Muslim)

Holy Text literalists are prone to extremism and this includes the Bible.

It is heartbreaking and violence breeds violence. There is no more peaceful people than the moderate Muslim. They are no different than the moderate Christian.

People fear and with good reason any literalists who claim to be doing Gods work

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hope all right thinking Muslims unequivocally condemn such barbaric acts in the name of religion.

I pray they will too IQ. I believe they will!!

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posted September 12, 2012 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How can the Moderates stand up to this intimidation? Obama is appeasing the radicals. He GAVE them Egypt. How do you expect Joe Smith Moderate Muslim to stand up to this kind of evil?

They are more afraid than anyone, and rightfully so.

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posted September 12, 2012 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
obama gave them egypt? how exactly did he do that?

and if the vast majority of muslims cannot put down their more radical cousins, who can? it will not be accomplished by genocide, that is for sure.

but right now it seems the chain of events is a little foggy to say the least, and the vicious circle continues if we keep reacting with knee jerk "retaliations"..

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posted September 12, 2012 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Muslim Brotherhood is a radical terrorist group. Mubarak was a dictator but the government was NOT Islamic, as this one is.

This new Egyptian government's first thing was to call for the destruction of Israel. Mubarak had a relationship with Israel, although not the warmest, but for the people who don't care about that, the main thing was that the prior government was not Islamic.

I saw this coming and I am an educated layman. O'Bomber thinks you can make peace with these radicals and all will be nice.

That does not work with these people. They want all governments under strict Islamic Law. That includes US.

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posted September 12, 2012 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O'Bomber has these radical terrorists, The Muslim Brotherhood, at the White House and gives them AID, our dollars.

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posted September 12, 2012 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"to this day republicans refuse to blame bush and cheney for the attack ON OUR LAND and the death of those thousands of people"..katatonic

This is one of the biggest pieces of lying propaganda leftists have ever circulated.

The 9/11 attacks were planned beginning all the way back in 1998...on Kommander Korruption's watch in the White House.

Further, before bin Laden and his murderous crew moved into Afghanistan, they were in Sudan. Sudan, in an attempt to get off America's shiiit list made an offer to the Clinton administration to round them up and turn them over to the United States...3 times that offer was made to the Clinton Administration and 3 times Kommander Korruption refused. All this well before 9/11 ever happened.

So get off this Bush, Cheney let 9/11 happen nonsense. There was no actionable intelligence about a specific attack on any specific target using a specific weapon or method of attack on any specific date. This was a loony-tunes nut case theory and it still is.

But what is true is that Kommander Korruption could have taken bin Laden and his crew totally out of circulation in 1996 well before 9/11 was even planned and that attack on 9/11/2001 would never have happened. But, he refused Sudan's offer to do that.

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posted September 13, 2012 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Lawsuit against Terry Jones should be brought by Stephen's family. That should teach that lowlife scumbag and a very sorry excuse of a human being a lesson.

But even the contemptible, reprehensible,pathetic scoundrel Terry Jones is after all a Human Being. He did not directly lead a team of radicals to physically attack innocent people. He is an instigator, he wants hatred to increase for his ego satisfaction. Good human beings will dismiss his vitriol.

But the radicals who kill in the name of Islam are not "human" when in a mob frenzy, they are beyond barbaric. They lose all sense of humanity and fail to distinguish between an armed opponent and an innocent person.

This radical group is about 1% of the Muslim Population. And do you want to know who has armed these monsters worldwide? Who gives them ideological support, communications infrastructure and logistics support? An organization called ISI of Pakistan.

And who gives funds to Pakistan?

And who gives funds to Pakistan?

And who gives funds to Pakistan?


There are two Karmic Pendulums smashing us at the moment. One is for all Moderate Muslims who do not speak out against these radicals.
The other is for Americans who support funding to Pakistan when they know fully well that the ISI gets the lions share.

The ISI tells the Taliban where the US Chopper will fly, so that it is taken down.
The ISI sent a team of 10 terrorsts to Mumbai. They pulled out American citizens from every hotel room before putting a bullet between the eyes. Innocent people, killed for having a US Passport, with guns sponsored by the CIA lobby which wants aid to be given to Pakistan.


This is a Tag Team match.

Moderate Muslims + American Citizens taking on the Global Radical Terror Network which includes Jihadists, Radical Salafi Scholars in Saudi Arabia, Arms dealers, certain Oil Companies in the Middle East, some rogue CIA groups which need terrorists to exist and ISI of Pakistan.

If Americans cannot support the Moderate, Secular Muslims or vice versa, the battle is lost.

Yesterday, I saw cricket legend Imran Khan give an interview. This man can and will bring positive change to Pakistan, as he is the first politician to condemn the ISI.

Until he wins, it will be best if American Citizens leave Radical Muslim Countries en masse, and stop doing business with the countries that do not show tangible evidence of action against radicals.

Stop dealing with the Saudis. Why do you need their Oil when they bay for your blood?

This is the ultimate protest. Shame the Islamic Countries into destroying the radicals. The Moderates need a trigger to wake up and this dishonor will be the best thing to happen to them.

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posted September 13, 2012 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You may not have any appreciation for freedom of speech IQ but in this country, we do...even when we don't like what's being said.

You are expressing a very illiberal point of view and it's the very same point of view expressed by leftists everywhere. When leftists don't like what someone is saying, use the power of government to shut them up.

Which is one of the main reasons I have no problems determining who is a Liberal and who is a Leftist.

This is the essence of LIBERAL thought on free speech. I invite you and anyone else who would claim to be a LIBERAL or LIBERAL thinker to contemplate the breadth and scope of the following statement as it relates to freedom of speech..and in this case, freedom of religion as well.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
Attributed to Voltaire but it doesn't matter whether Voltaire ever said it or someone else did.

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posted September 13, 2012 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If the Moderate Muslims stand up, the same thing will happen to them. They are in as bad as a position as everyone else.


I know this is a time of emotional upheaval in our country and I`m certain for the moderate Muslims around the world.

I`m sharing an article I remembered from 2010:

Moderate Muslims Arise


From the Des Moines Register of 6 Oct. 2010. Dr Jasser calls for moderate USA Muslims to speak out against their Jihadist fellow Muslims.

Guest column: What the Muslims in America can do

by DR. M. ZUHDI JASSER

Dr. Jasser is the president and founder of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, based in Phoenix, Ariz. Contact: info@aifdemocracy.org. • October 6.

You may get a hundred different answers from a hundred American Muslims about what it means to be an American Muslim. The controversial Islamic center near ground zero, while pouring salt in a yet widely open national wound, did begin to awaken us to the yet unfought war of ideas within the "House of Islam." Many of us reform-minded Muslims have been waging that war of ideas for most of our adult life, long before 9/11. But time has shown that we cannot wage this battle alone.
It may not seem to matter much for a faith community that is barely 1 percent of the population, but American Muslims carry an invaluable ability to influence the ideologies of over 1.5 billion Muslims - over a fifth of the world's population. Until middle America realizes how our national security hangs in the balance of that intellectual war within Islam, our security will never improve.

The last 12 months have seen the most arrests and attacks of radical Islamists on Americans since 9/11. This was confirmed to Congress last month by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who also finally acknowledged the growing homegrown threat of radical Muslims.

Sadly, many of my co-religionists called on by media to speak for American Muslims too often wallow in denial simply deflecting any responsibility by distancing themselves from radicals or myopically equating Muslim radicals to those of other faiths. They willfully ignore the main ideological conveyor belt towards radicalism - political Islam.

Most Americans no longer accept these detached irresponsible dismissals from leading American Muslims. They see so many examples of American Muslim clerics who condemn terror out of one side of their mouth while deceptively amplifying victimology, Islamophobia, anti-Americanism and morally vacant justifications from the other.
Imam Anwar Al-Awlaki, for example, condemned 9/11 in the national media and was hailed as a moderate Muslim while at the Dar Al-Hijrah mosque of Northern Virginia in 2001. Most, however, refused to look with any critique at his theo-political ideas - a political Islam with high risk of radicalization. Today, he is one of the greatest threats to America creating such violent traitors as Nidal Hasan. His sermons and teachings are a clinic on homegrown radicalization and yet they still fill some Islamic bookstores with no hint of any counter-ideological movement from leading American Muslim organizations. Since so many leading well-financed American Muslim groups are sympathetic to the Muslim Brotherhood's ideas, they are certainly not going to lead a movement against political Islam and for the separation of mosque and state.

In our conversation at Drake University this week, I hope we focus on the fact that at the center of the growing threat to our national security is this battle within the House of Islam. American Muslims need to accept and spread the meme that it is time to get shariah (Islamic law) out of government and bring the ideas of modernity and Enlightenment to the Islamic faith we love.

We need to take the offense in ending the ideas of jihad, the "ummah" as nation, and the "salafi" dream of returning everything to the time of the Prophet Muhammad. Until we Muslims take on the responsibility of separating history from religion and mosque from state, the threat will not dissipate.

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posted September 13, 2012 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope the Moderate Muslims arise. God Bless Them

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