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juniperb
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posted September 16, 2012 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It didn`t last very long nor did it solve a single problem/issue.

NEW YORK (AP) — Occupy Wall Street began to disintegrate in rapid fashion last winter, when the weekly meetings in New York City devolved into a spectacle of fistfights and vicious arguments.

Punches were thrown and objects were hurled at moderators' heads. Protesters accused each other of being patriarchal and racist and domineering. Nobody could agree on anything and nobody was in charge. The moderators went on strike and refused to show up, followed in quick succession by the people who kept meeting minutes. And then the meetings stopped altogether.

In the city where the movement was born, Occupy was falling apart.

"We weren't talking about real things at that point," says Pete Dutro, a tattoo artist who used to manage Occupy's finances but became disillusioned by the infighting and walked away months ago. "We were talking about each other."

The trouble with Occupy Wall Street, a year after it bloomed in a granite park in lower Manhattan and spread across the globe, is that nobody really knows what it is anymore. To say whether Occupy was a success or a failure depends upon how you define it.

Occupy is a network. Occupy is a metaphor. Occupy is still alive. Occupy is dead. Occupy is the spirit of revolution, a lost cause, a dream deferred.

read the rest here:
http://news.yahoo.com/1-occupy-disarray-spirit-lives-161622760.html

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juniperb
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posted September 16, 2012 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be interesting if Natively Joan came around and filled us in on the OWS current activities.

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NativelyJoan
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posted September 16, 2012 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Juni, since you asked:

The news media continues to shame the movement through printing inaccurate articles about the demise of the movement and people that support it. Politicians (Romney) as well as other political figures have been scurrilous in attempting to connect Occupy to crimes committed by common individuals in order to once again shame the entire movement. The question is why are these politicians, news media organizations, and other big corporate cats so threatened by a movement they have gone to great lengths to shame? Well, because it challenges everything they stand for which is greediness and exploitation. But that's a discussion for another thread.

The point of the movement was to spread the message of corruption within the financial sector and refocus the attention away from the greedy big cats on Wall Street and place it on the public and ever shrinking middle class. Occupy, was meant to ignite discourse among the masses, get people talking seriously about these fundamental issues that are not only impacting our American society but global economies and societies around the world. The movement achieved it's goal. The message was spread, for about a year all anyone seemed to care about especially within the news media and politics was the Occupy movement. Mission accomplished. (All press is good press)

It's legacy is still to be written. The movement inspired a generation (X and Y) and grassroots campaigns and non profit organizations have been founded by leaders within the movement and public figures affiliated with it to keep the hope of progressive change alive (http://occupydidwhat.tumblr.com ). Work is still being down, however many of the leaders and actives within the Occupy movement have removed their energy from pounding the streets to working behind the scenes, fundraising, engaging within the community, helping development programs within various grassroots campaigns to promote community development and progressive change. The message has already been spread, what's being down now is the groundwork to build better communities. The news media isn't going to report on that. They aren't interested in helping support a movement that is challenging a corrupt system which keeps them afloat. Many of these mega-media conglomerates (Murdoch's empire)own most news media organizations. Therefore, it goes against the self interests of these organizations and their agendas.

The point of the Occupy movement was to spread a message about corruption within our society, and to make a difference. They are doing just that, however don't plan on reading about it in any news media outlet. Unless it's independently owned (like for example http://wearecitizenradio.com/ which is very active within the Occupy movement and building progressive communities) and not dependent on big corporate funding to stay afloat.
http://occupywallst.org/

Sidenote: T, I hope you're doing okay dear, I've missed you and appreciated those kind words you wrote about me after I left. I will be respectfully bowing out again, however if anyone wants to speak to me, just let me know. All the best!

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posted September 17, 2012 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The OWS movement will spread more messages against corruption the moment we have a direct motion of Pluto and Uranus. It was the Pluto-Uranus square which triggered the Arab Spring, A strong Wiki Leaks release, the India against Corruption movement and the OWS Movement.

Pluto in Capricorn has one and only goal. The complete annihilation of corrupt corporate and corrupt government structures. No Self Righteous Old Organization will survive this transit.

Wait till the Chinese Masses take to the streets. Their new leader is already chickening out from fear of governance and goes missing at the drop of a hat.

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Randall
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posted September 17, 2012 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They have shrunk from thousands to just hundreds, and they are getting more disruptive, so they are being arrested.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dozens-occupy-wall-street-arrests-nyc-161020039.html

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posted September 17, 2012 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Joan, thanks for stopping by

I had actually forgotton about the occupiers until I saw the news article.

They had either become quiet or media gave up on carrying their news.

Corruption must be stopped, from the top down. No different than the hippies of yore sang about.

To do so with violence is in error. I guess in essence, my views haven`t changed as I feel the been there done that blues.

Choose a different way of expressing the outrage ie stop buying imported oil et al and I would work on changing my views .

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NativelyJoan
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posted September 17, 2012 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
The OWS movement will spread more messages against corruption the moment we have a direct motion of Pluto and Uranus. It was the Pluto-Uranus square which triggered the Arab Spring, A strong Wiki Leaks release, the India against Corruption movement and the OWS Movement.

Pluto in Capricorn has one and only goal. The complete annihilation of corrupt corporate and corrupt government structures. No Self Righteous Old Organization will survive this transit...


Thank you for adding you're very insightful response IQ. Yep, Pluto in Capricorn is going to do what needs to be done to transform this very corrupt world.

No problem Juni, I hope you're doing well.

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posted September 17, 2012 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it won't be the OWS that does any of the changes, since the movement itself is corrupt and imploding.

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posted September 18, 2012 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nice to see/hear you NJ. thanks for the input!

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NativelyJoan
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posted September 18, 2012 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kat! Nice to see you too! Balancing out the energy here on GU as usual. Keep up the good work! The world needs a lot more people like you!

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posted September 19, 2012 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Joan! ~clapping hands~

Good to read you

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posted September 19, 2012 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Well, it won't be the OWS that does any of the changes, since the movement itself is corrupt and imploding.


TOTALLY corrupt

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NativelyJoan
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posted September 19, 2012 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nodeee! (waves with a big smile!)

So good to run into you! You, Kat and AG are doing a great job of balancing the scales around GU. If I had time I'd be around more, but keep speaking your mind! It's always a delight to read you, too!

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katatonic
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posted September 26, 2012 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.livestream.com/spanishrevolutionsol

apparently the spanish are out in the tens of thousands demanding the resignation of their government...

from the OCCUPY livestream site.

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katatonic
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posted September 29, 2012 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://ht.ly/2sqdVH

the pictures do not corroborate the "it's over" story...expect crowds like this in your state soon!

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted September 29, 2012 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The hilarious part is that it is doing fabulously well, except for the major financial centers, including NYC, London and Tokyo. Outside of the JP Morgan headquarters, for example, the net result is a permanent placement of NYPD riot trucks with police with assault rifles. Hence, there isn't a single soul that dares protest. Just walking by 277 or 270 Park Avenue and not looking like an employee is enough to get the cops' fingers on the triggers. Like to debate the NYPD? Sure. They empty their magazines into you first. Then you can talk.

What good is it when it is doing absolutely nothing to change the behavior of bankers which fund election campaigns, and politicians who are too petrified of upsetting their benefactors?

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posted September 29, 2012 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no one is interested in the banks right now. they are surrounding "congress" in various countries around the world. if you saw the pics it is going to be a major slaughter that will only create more trouble if the polizia get too heavy-handed.

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