posted September 17, 2012 01:18 PM            

On October 22, 1988, a French Christian fundamentalist group launched Molotov cocktails inside the Parisian Saint Michel movie theater while it was showing the film. This attack injured thirteen people, four of whom were severely burned.[8][9] The Saint Michel theater was heavily damaged,[9] and reopened 3 years later after restoration. Following the attack, a representative of the film's distributor, United International Pictures, said, "The opponents of the film have largely won. They have massacred the film's success, and they have scared the public." Jack Lang, France's Minister of Culture, went to the St.-Michel theater after the fire, and said, "Freedom of speech is threatened, and we must not be intimidated by such acts."[9] The Archbishop of Paris, Jean-Marie Cardinal Lustiger, said "One doesn't have the right to shock the sensibilities of millions of people for whom Jesus is more important than their father or mother."[9] After the fire he condemned the attack, saying, "You don't behave as Christians but as enemies of Christ. From the Christian point of view, one doesn't defend Christ with arms. Christ himself forbade it."[9] The leader of Christian Solidarity, a Roman Catholic group that had promised to stop the film from being shown, said, "We will not hesitate to go to prison if it is necessary."[9]

The attack was subsequently blamed on a Christian fundamentalist group linked to Bernard Antony, a representative of the far-right National Front to the European Parliament in Strasbourg, and the excommunicated followers of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.[8] Lefebvre had been excommunicated from the Catholic Church on July 2, 1988. Similar attacks against theatres included graffiti, setting off tear-gas canisters and stink bombs, and assaulting filmgoers.[8] At least nine people believed to be members of the Catholic fundamentalist group were arrested.[8] Rene Remond, a historian, said of the Catholic far-right, "It is the toughest component of the National Front and it is motivated more by religion than by politics. It has a coherent political philosophy that has not changed for 200 years: it is the rejection of the revolution, of the republic and of modernism."[8]

[...] Although Last Temptation was released on VHS and Laserdisc, many video rental stores, including the then-dominant Blockbuster Video, declined to carry it for rental as a result of the film's controversial reception.[14] In 1997, the Criterion Collection issued a special edition of Last Temptation on Laserdisc, which Criterion re-issued on DVD in 2000 and on Blu-ray disc in Region A in March 2012.

from wikipedia

posted September 17, 2012 03:10 PM            

The Irish have been at each other's throats in Belfast for over 300 years. They are of the same religion and even read from the exact same Bible. The violence is astounding. I've walked the streets on both sides of Belfast myself. And for that matter, Beirut as well, where there are three sides to the city. So, it's not limited to Islamic extremists. All religious extremism around the world ought to be erradicated.

posted September 17, 2012 04:09 PM            

but i think too many americans are unwilling to examine our national conscience - and if we continue to play "an eye for an eye" and "big daddy to the poor benighted world" we breed understandable resistance and resentment.

too true, religious extremism is everywhere, and it has been fostered by churches vying for power over the people and the governments in charge of them. this is a main reason that i have avoided, though i personally researched, organized religion in general.

and it is the main reason that i resist the current attempt to insist that america is a "christian country"...it has so much more in its makeup.

however

the irish fighting each other are neither of the same religion nor are they fighting just for the sake of it. nor are the peacemakers among them saying anything except THIS HAS TO STOP. sometimes no one will ever win.

do we really insist on war without end? shall we turn the whole world into one big belfast?

catholics and protestants may all fall under "christianity" but they do not agree with each other...talk about petty! i know. my mother's family were irish, though my grandfather was half-english and there was a lot of bad blood between him and his wife's thoroughly catholic irish relatives...

but the northern irish issue is partly religion, and partly what that religion stands for, ie, the protestants in general are happy to be "english property", and the catholics tend to be more pro irish-sovereignty.

the muslim issue is similar in many ways. the quran does not say, as far as i know, "go out and kill all nonbelievers", it says, kill he who would kill you for your religion...and/or insist that you convert to his.

it also says that many will NOT participate in jihad and that is okay. thus those who say there are no moderate muslims are believing false premises...

posted September 17, 2012 04:24 PM            

irish to english: if you weren't so english we could be REALLY good friends.

the englishman, inherently decent as jwhop would say, had no clue what the irishman was talking about.

but innocent and decent as this englishman was, he could not see how his country's colonialism has affected the natives of the colonized countries. and also his own view of the world and england's part in the way it is today.

just as we americans have a hard time understanding what we did to the natives, to the blacks we imported as slaves, and to ALL THEIR DECENDENTS bar the few able to rise above their heritage.

and just as we americans have trouble seeing that from the point of view of a muslim living in africa, we have intruded on their territory and taken over their resources and their sovereignty.

as my jewish(paternal) grandmother clung to her orthodoxy because it was all she had left of her childhood, homeland and family, so do muslim extremists cling to their religion.

posted September 17, 2012 05:28 PM            

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posted September 18, 2012 01:21 PM            

the libya attack was planned. however 20 countries around the world are seeing PROTESTS at insult to their beliefs and right to self-determine.

who here thought killing bin laden - and other al qaeda operatives - was not going to stimulate a response attack?

posted September 18, 2012 02:42 PM            

Whoever made the film, and whoever mass emailed this film so that it would reach the crazy radicals just before September 11th, is part and parcel of the Islamic Terror Network.

Had this film not been mass emailed to stir trouble, the specific terrorist cell would not have been able to attack Stevens and his team. They would have been brought down by Libyan Security itself [who have arrested 50 radicals already.]

The Neocons and the Islamic Radicals are a strange breed of blood brothers, feeding off of each others bloodshed, and hitting innocent civilians in their endless, mindless cross fire. Everytime things are calm, the Brotherhood handler arranges for Terry Jones to threaten another controversy like burning copies of the Quran. Shame on both these groups.

posted September 18, 2012 03:28 PM            

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The Attack was 100% planned

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It would be nice if the fools in the government could see this simple fact

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posted September 19, 2012 01:05 AM            

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The Irish have been at each other's throats in Belfast for over 300 years. They are of the same religion and even read from the exact same Bible

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Just a heads up!

The situation in Northern Ireland is not so much a religious issue, a factor sure. The main issue is the English land grab, and most of those English settlers just happened to be Protestant's.

It wouldn't have mattered if they were of the same denomination as the Irish, there is almost always war when one country invades another and seeks to sequester its resources and trample the natives.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ireland_%281169%E2%80%931536%29

The coming of Cambro-Norman (Who were actually more into Christian mysticism than what one would call Christianity/Protestant today) mercenaries under Richard de Clare, 2nd Earl of Pembroke, nicknamed Strongbow, in 1169 marked the beginning of more than 700 years of direct English, and, later, British involvement in Ireland.

The Crown did not attempt to assert full control of the island until after Henry VIII's repudiation of papal authority over the Church in England and subsequent English Reformation, which failed in Ireland. Questions over the loyalty of Irish vassals provided the initial impetus for a series of Irish military campaigns between 1534 and 1691

This period was marked by a Crown policy of plantation, involving the arrival of thousands of English and Scottish Protestant settlers, and the consequent displacement of the pre-plantation Catholic landholders.

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Even before that though, they had their fingers in the Irish pie...

posted September 19, 2012 01:09 AM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
The Attack was 100% planned. The mass emailing of this movie trailer to instigate protests as a smokescreen so that the terrorists could sneak in, was very much part of the plan.

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posted September 19, 2012 06:17 PM            

now america is doing basically the same thing, though we do not bring christian missionaries or call ourselves "colonists"...that would not go down so well in a country that exists due to rebellion against colonialism.

to be fair, EVERY major power you can find in history has done pretty much the same thing, in their own fashions. the romans brought roads to the bumpkins! the catholics brought god (and the inquisition) to the infidel.