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Randall
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posted September 19, 2012 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I believe in wealth redistribution." Newsflash, Marxist, you're not Robin Hood!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/18/obama-loyola-speech-leaked-redistribution_n_1894625.html?1348003636&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing6%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D207411

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posted September 19, 2012 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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“The trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some [wealth] redistribution -- because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody’s got a shot.”

I`d offer up him mine but I can`t find it.

I`ve looked under every cabbage leaf, dug through the "fertilizer" and turned every stone. It`s gone.

Sorry Obama, the economy hit my money garden too hard these last few years and I need to regroup.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 19, 2012 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is so weird in this election. I feel it will be a Divine decision, as the stakes are too, too, too high. In the past, the differences between the two candidates were not this stark. They both loved America and wanted the best for it, even if beguiled on what that was, such as a Carter.

With Obama, he hates America and what it stands for( See the movie 2016)

This election will be about the sustaining or the falling of America. I am giving up, now.

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posted September 19, 2012 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leaked?

not a nano second after the Romney "leaked" vid?

People need to think for themselves. If you rely on your ISP fed headlines~ be it~ AOL, Yahoo, Comcast, you are clicking on fish food.

"Obama hates" on Ah-murica riiight...sure he does.

Huffypoo is AOL

Party Politics as played in GU are irrelevent and not to mention boring. S-S-D-D.


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jwhop
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posted September 19, 2012 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Notice how the usual suspects don't want to talk about the reality of the O'Bomber wealth redistribution tape..what O'Bomber said?

They want to talk about HOW IT CAME TO LIGHT!

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posted September 19, 2012 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm your Huckleberry.

I don't mind talking about it in the slightest. You know why? Because I know what he was talking about, and it's not "[wealth]" redistribution. Nice try, though.

"There has been a systematic – I don't think it's too strong to call it a propaganda campaign – against the possibility of government action and its efficacy," he is heard saying in the audio clip. "And I think some of it has been deserved."

Later in the recording, Obama says he wants to "resuscitate this notion that we're all in this thing together, leave nobody behind, we do have to be innovative in thinking how – what are the delivery systems that are actually effective and meet people where they live."

He continues: "I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution – because I actually believe in some redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody's got a shot."

It's those final words – "I actually believe in some redistribution" – that Republicans have latched onto, characterizing them as an endorsement of redistributing wealth, rather than making sure government agencies were well supported. Many conservatives argue redistributing wealth is akin to socialism. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/19/romney-republicans- hit-back-with-obama-redistribution-tape/

Fast forward to his Presidency. What does he propose as part of his economic solution? Revenue Sharing. Heard of it?

It was signed into law by President Nixon in 1972.

    Economist Walter Heller is credited with originating the revenue-sharing program, which U.S. President Richard M. Nixon signed into law in October 1972. During the 14 years of the program’s operation administrative costs were extremely low, and a total of $85 billion reached America’s communities. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/500387/revenue-sharing

    President Obama could well point out that revenue sharing has Republican lineage; it ought to be a bipartisan cause today. It was Richard Nixon who first introduced the concept. Nixon viewed the federal bureaucracy as a poor revenue manager and argued that much counter-cyclical spending should go to the states, as they are closer to people’s needs and more directly hurt by falling revenues. But instead of simply cutting taxes, as later conservatives would, he proposed a new system called revenue sharing, which redirected funds to states and municipalities. The federal government would collect taxes and local governments would spend the money. Passed after contentious debate, the State and Local Assistance Act of 1972 initially delivered $4 billion per year in matching funds to states and municipalities. The program, which distributed some $83 billion dollars before it was killed by Ronald Reagan in 1986, proved enormously popular. http://www.rooseveltinstitute.org/new-roosevelt/reven ue-sharing-states-how-it-works-why-we-need-it-and-why-nixon-liked-it

This is management of the same style as the NFL. Not all teams are as profitable as others, so the money is pooled and redistributed for the welfare of all parties.

It's the same for companies with different divisions. Innovation at IBM, GE, or 3M is funded by current products. You could argue the research is eventually profitable of itself, but it would not be able to create products that will profit if it didn't receive funding from profits made off of other segments of the company. There's a redistribution of funds that helps the entire company succeed.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 19, 2012 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was good it came out. It needed to be said.

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posted September 19, 2012 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Notice how the usual suspects don't want to talk about the reality of the O'Bomber wealth redistribution tape..what O'Bomber said?

They want to talk about HOW IT CAME TO LIGHT!



GREAT point, Jwhop

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posted September 19, 2012 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just my 2 cents.

America is the only Nation to invoke God as a Supreme Diety. Islamic Reformer and Quran expert Dr. Rashad Khalifa pointed out that as per Quran, America is the most blessed Nation on Earth because it is the only Nation that invoked Monotheism accurately.

I think it is incorrect to say that an American President hates America or can be elected against God's Will. Even Dubya had a purpose and started with noble intentions, it is another matter that his method of executing his purpose was difficult due to the wicked counsel of Cheney.

If Obama hated America, God would not have allowed him into the White House. He loves America but he does not understand the best economic policies [probably wrong counsel?], hence has not taken the economy ahead as much as he should have.

To believe in a Supreme God and yet to think that Obama can defeat God's purpose to become President of USA against God's Divine Will is idolatory, IMHO.

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posted September 19, 2012 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those that have a different definition of redistribution than most people, also tend to have interesting definitions for Marxism and socialism too.

must be that cold war mindset.

Thanks for posting those contextual quotes AG.

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posted September 19, 2012 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Mommy, why do all those quotes have [wealth] in brackets?"

"because, dear, no one actually heard mr obama say that word...they just assume that is what he meant."

but the fact is, he did not say "wealth redistribution" he said "redistribution" and in the context i heard, about three sentences? it could have as easily meant redistribution of spending priorities IN ILLINIOS STATE GOVT...

ie, without taking another dime from anyone, i can give one quarter of my wealth to my daughter and 3 quarters to my grandson...or i can put it into a lot of different places that will pay for schooling, housing, and food without either of them ever seeing an actual dime,,,

once again the media is jumping to put words in obama's mouth...as when he was speaking to medyedev(sic) about having more flexibility AFTER he is reelected...which is the plain truth, but he did NOT say that after he is reelected he would do whatever putin asks...that part was supplied by the OBAMA HATERS, professional and amateur.

meanwhile romney's dad and grandparents DID receive what romney's mother lenore described as "WELFARE relief" and it doesn't appear to have turned them into chronic aid-junkies at ALL...

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posted September 19, 2012 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to Romney's infamous 47% quotes, his own father wouldn't vote for him
as an assistance recipient he is part of the 47%.

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posted September 19, 2012 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
Just my 2 cents.

America is the only Nation to invoke God as a Supreme Diety. Islamic Reformer and Quran expert Dr. Rashad Khalifa pointed out that as per Quran, America is the most blessed Nation on Earth because it is the only Nation that invoked Monotheism accurately.

I think it is incorrect to say that an American President hates America or can be elected against God's Will. Even Dubya had a purpose and started with noble intentions, it is another matter that his method of executing his purpose was difficult due to the wicked counsel of Cheney.

If Obama hated America, God would not have allowed him into the White House. He loves America but he does not understand the best economic policies [probably wrong counsel?], hence has not taken the economy ahead as much as he should have.

To believe in a Supreme God and yet to think that Obama can defeat God's purpose to become President of USA against God's Divine Will is idolatory, IMHO.


UNLESS, we are in the last days and are going down, which we are based on all signs of current times. God will pour His wrath on this earth. That is the book of Revelation.

God is not the gumball fairy or Santa Claus, which man people make Him. He has righteous anger which WILL pour out on the earth per the Book of Revelation.

No hiding of individuals from this fact will change it.


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posted September 19, 2012 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Doc/Val" had all the best lines in Tombstone.

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katatonic
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posted September 19, 2012 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sigh, we have been in the "last days" so many times since i was in school, and that is quite a few years ago.

and the signs are always there for those who pick up on them.

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posted September 19, 2012 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
sigh, we have been in the "last days" so many times since i was in school, and that is quite a few years ago.

and the signs are always there for those who pick up on them.


They begin from 1948.

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posted September 19, 2012 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i should have said, if you look back through history, we have had MANY times that were thought to be DEFINITELY the end times. i always enjoyed history in school.

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katatonic
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posted September 20, 2012 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as to what obama actually said, though AG already posted most of this, it was in the middle of a post some might not have bothered to read through:

"I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody's got a shot. How do we pool resources at the same time as we decentralize delivery systems in ways that both foster competition, can work in the marketplace, and can foster innovation at the local level and can be tailored to particular communities

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