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katatonic
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posted October 08, 2012 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there is no point talking to you anymore. maybe one day you will understand how warped your perception is, but i don't need to re explain what i said to you...anymore than i need you to tell me what i said...since you refuse to see anything you don't want to. it's there in black and white, and if you don't get it, well, no big deal.

you have said on more than one occasion, and i thought mockingly, that you are a shapeshifting lizard yourself. if i take you by your own standard, that everything said here must be taken literally, i will have to believe it is true. i have never accused anyone of being such, it was you who said it, and maybe others you are now confusing me with because they're not here anymore.

it doesn't really matter.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2012 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back at ya

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katatonic
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posted October 08, 2012 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i guess ami thinks she IS jwhop. or maybe she is.

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jwhop
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posted October 08, 2012 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hahaha

Yeah, it's really hard living in a universe where words have fixed meanings.

Yeah, it must be so nice to live in a reality where..."roses are red and violets are blue" can be the "Declaration of Independence" or the "Preamble to the Constitution"..Or, "take out the trash"..depending on whether it's Tuesday, Thursday or Friday. And if you're feeling sarcastic, you can say...everyone knows roses are blue and violets are red.

But yeah, I understand, it's my perception that's warped!

Hey Ami, there's some people here who already think I'm Rush. Now katatonic thinks you might be me..or I might be you. Oh...I'm soooo confused. But does that mean you might be Rush too?

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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2012 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
i guess ami thinks she IS jwhop. or maybe she is.


I would be PROUD to be that fine man, but I am too feminine, as are Republican woman


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AcousticGod
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posted October 08, 2012 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man. - Thomas Paine

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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2012 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man. - Thomas Paine


SIGH
Don't you people hear anything?

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posted October 08, 2012 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well acoustic, since you use a famous atheist, Thomas Paine in an attempt to prove your point, does that mean you'll refrain in the future from attempting to use the Bible to prove your pathetic points?

As I recall, you called George W Bush a murderer and tried to use the 6th Commandment to prove your pathetic point.

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pire
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posted October 08, 2012 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi. Jwhop, although I didn't live in Italy, Spain or Portugal, I have met many people from around the world in london. From Europe, only polish youth were still paying attention to religious dogma ( aka institutions). All other nationalities were totally free from it. Now you probably talk of older folks. I mentioned those who will raise kids...
My generation.

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Node
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posted October 08, 2012 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
deist is not the same as atheist.

The decibel level of the psychobabble is redlining.

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Randall
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posted October 08, 2012 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And don't forget, Jwhop and I are the same person, as well, so that makes me Rush.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 08, 2012 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
And don't forget, Jwhop and I are the same person, as well, so that makes me Rush.


The best post in this crazy thing

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posted October 08, 2012 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
schizoids

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We dance around the ring and suppose, but the secret sits in the middle and Knows
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AcousticGod
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posted October 08, 2012 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop,

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As I recall, you called George W Bush a murderer and tried to use the 6th Commandment to prove your pathetic point.

And, as I recall, that conversation was well in progress before I ever entered it. It was NOT me that started a thread about Bush being a murderer, but instead it was you arguing against someone of that opinion. As is often the case when a person is having trouble dealing with you, I stepped in to help out.

Nevertheless, I'm your huckleberry no matter WHAT the issue, because I can generally count on you getting stuff wrong.

    1 John 3:15 King James Version (KJV)
    15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

Christians follow Christ, and Christ was neither a murderer, nor a killer. Nor did he ever advocate for either. Nor did any of his disciples throughout the Bible. For this, YOU have no answer. Killing and murdering are both immoral for Christians.

    2 Corinthians 3:4-11 King James Version (KJV)
    4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward: 5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; 6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. 7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: 8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? 9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. 10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. 11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.

2 Corinthians 10:3-5 NIV
3 For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. 4 The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. 5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

    Ephesians 6:10-18 King James Version (KJV)
    10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: 18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

Matthew 5:9 King James Version (KJV)
9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

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AcousticGod
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posted October 08, 2012 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

It's easy to see why I like the guy.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 09, 2012 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
“Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

It's easy to see why I like the guy.


This is you

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AcousticGod
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posted October 09, 2012 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think you're in a credible position to make such a statement, Ami.

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posted October 09, 2012 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't think you're in a credible position to make such a statement, Ami.


I AM, TOO

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posted October 09, 2012 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"As I recall, you called George W Bush a murderer and tried to use the 6th Commandment to prove your pathetic point."

Do you deny you called Bush a murderer..according to the 6th Commandment acoustic?

"Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer"..acoustic

Have you established Bush hates anyone acoustic? And, if you have, exactly how did you establish that?

Does that mean O'Bomber can't be a Christian and must be a murderer..according to the 6th Commandment and John 3:15?

Tell me acoustic, does murder involve only the completed act of killing or does it include the intent too?

Luke 22:49,50
Peter asked, Shall we smite with the sword? and without waiting for an answer, struck the blow

When the High Priest's servant layed hands on Jesus in the Garden to seize him, Peter drew his sword intending to cut him in half vertically but missed and cut off his ear. Was Peter..an Apostle and "The Rock of Christ's Church" a murderer acoustic?

Matthew 16:18
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

You are always on thin ice when you're attempting argument with me acoustic but never more so than when you attempt quoting biblical scripture.

Well Ami, Randall and Rush, it's difficult being in all these places at the same time. If it wasn't a public service and in the public interest, I'd be inclined to just kick back and watch Days of Our Lives instead.

So who has EIB duty tomorrow?

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posted October 09, 2012 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Do you deny you called Bush a murderer..according to the 6th Commandment acoustic?

Do you want to prove otherwise? No, of course, you don't.

That thread wasn't started by me. As I recall, it was someone else saying that Bush was a murderer, and you were attempting to bait any takers into making it against the 6th Commandment. No, I neither called Bush a murderer, nor did I bring up the 6th Commandment.

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Have you established Bush hates anyone acoustic? And, if you have, exactly how did you establish that?

Wow, do you ever look at things wrong. How is it you're making it about HATE, and not MURDER. The verse very clearly states, "No murderer hath eternal life abiding in him," which means that even a lawful killer has no eternal life abiding in him. How you always go for the wrong part of the context is simply incredible.


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Does that mean O'Bomber can't be a Christian and must be a murderer..according to the 6th Commandment and John 3:15?

Are you combining two different and separate things? The 6th Commandment, as you aptly laid out, makes the case for lawful killing. John 3:15 does not.

It is not Christ-like to kill regardless of lawfulness or lawlessness.

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When the High Priest's servant layed hands on Jesus in the Garden to seize him, Peter drew his sword intending to cut him in half vertically but missed and cut off his ear. Was Peter..an Apostle and "The Rock of Christ's Church" a murderer acoustic?

Did he kill anyone? More importantly, did he follow Christ? Do Christians believe Peter was the Son of God, or was it Jesus?

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Matthew 16:18
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

So Jesus picked Peter, and didn't allow Peter to murder or kill? Is that what you're telling me? Did Peter go on to take up his sword over and over again in the name of the Lord? No, but he did manage to deny Jesus three times ensuring that we all knew Jesus picked an imperfect vessel.

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You are always on thin ice when you're attempting argument with me acoustic but never more so than when you attempt quoting biblical scripture.

That's hilarious.

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