posted October 18, 2012 11:55 AM            

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Nothing awkward OR thoughtless about Romney saying he had bios of women in "binders". Nothing whatsoever.

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Nothing awkward or thoughtless about dodging a question with a mistaken tale of binders full of women? That's a strange position to take. The new Romney commercial is FAR less awkward and thoughtless than his answer was that night.

posted October 18, 2012 12:35 PM            

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Nothing awkward or thoughtless about dodging a question with a mistaken tale of binders full of women? That's a strange position to take. The new Romney commercial is FAR less awkward and thoughtless than his answer was that night.

In the larger scheme of things, it was another small answer to another big question. First there was Big Bird. Now there's Binders. What will be the third "B" word to come as a small answer to a big question?

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You are SUCH A SHEEP, AG.

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posted October 18, 2012 01:24 PM            

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I don't know why you persist in giving your opinion. I'm certainly not going to think you're speaking accurately. I don't think anyone else here is either. It's not as if I just quoted some pundit you can reference, is it? Feel free to google the words in my post to see if they came from someone else's talking points.

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I give my opinion because I feel I am gonna burst with the stupidity of the Sheeple. I can put my Astrology info in a binder. I had binders of info for my subjects in college.

What the heck is wrong with you people with the binder stuff?

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posted October 18, 2012 01:38 PM            

if he had SAID he had "bios of women in binders" it would not have been funny...

and if he had not claimed credit for the work done by a group of women to further women in state office, it probably wouldn't have been offensive either!

a man who doesn't believe in affirmative action tells a story on himself that he TOOK affirmative action regarding women in his cabinet. what sort of percentage of women worked in his other endeavours?

this is the same man who says he will "create 12 million new jobs" but "government does not create jobs (x3!)" and he claims to have done everything he has done on his own despite government assistance (over a billion dollars in the case of the olympics in utah).

posted October 18, 2012 01:41 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
so you agree that binders are not where one puts women? it's a laughable line that a lot of people thought a) funny and b) indicative of mitt's objectifying women.

a man who doesn't believe in affirmative action tells a story on himself that he TOOK affirmative action regarding women in his cabinet. what sort of percentage of women worked in his other endeavours?

this is the same man who says he will "create 12 million new jobs" but "government does not create jobs (x3!)" and he claims to have done everything he has done on his own despite government assistance (over a billion dollars in the case of the olympics in utah).

it is just another example of how much of his life is spent justifying his own ego.

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posted October 18, 2012 02:05 PM            

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I give my opinion because I feel I am gonna burst with the stupidity of the Sheeple.

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I am very obviously not stupid, so claiming the "stupidity of the Sheeple" is nonsense.

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I can put my Astrology info in a binder. I had binders of info for my subjects in college.

What the heck is wrong with you people with the binder stuff?

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It's not what's with US. It's what's with Romney? Why would he dodge a question with a tall tale about binders full of qualified women that were presented not only to him, but also to his opponent for the office of governor? Was there not something more appropriate he could have said?

Now Mitt's smartly trotting out the women that worked under him as Governor. That's good. However, there are also people noting that he wasn't all that into hiring women when he headed Bain.

It's the picture he painted, and the scruntiny he welcomed by taking this path.

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You, guys, are so blind. You are so unaware of the way this country is going down and you focus on total BS. It is hopeless to even talk to you

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posted October 18, 2012 02:07 PM            

Psychobabble won't overcome facts acoustic.

O'Bomber pays women less than he pays men on his staff and he paid women less than he paid men on his Senate staff and on his election campaign staff.

Actions speak louder that mere words acoustic.

So don't sprain your wrist trying to pat yourself on the back thinking you've provided an argument which overrides the facts. You didn't...except for perhaps among the coven of usual suspect leftists where the truth doesn't matter.

Oh, and it takes some pretty dim bulbs to not know what a "binder" is and even dimmer bulbs to try spinning "binders of women" into a sexist comment.

So dim in fact that if those bulbs were in a marque, the maintenance crew would replace them thinking they were burned out.

posted October 18, 2012 02:16 PM            

Nothing I've said flies in the face of facts. If they did, you'd have been able to disprove them, but you didn't, and you generally don't.

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O'Bomber pays women less than he pays men on his staff and he paid women less than he paid men on his Senate staff and on his election campaign staff.

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This is an irrational statement based upon average salaries. Average salaries WON'T ever paint a picture as to whether people of the same position are being paid the same amount. It's utterly, obviously a false premise to pull BS like this. I laid that out for you in those threads in no uncertain terms.

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posted October 18, 2012 02:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
IT IS A STOOOPID SUBJECT. He used a flippin term. You, guys, are so blind. You are so unaware of the way this country is going down and you focus on total BS. It is hopeless to even talk to you.

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Presenting an intelligent & informed opinion or presenting facts contrary to your beliefs isn`t blind . It is being intellectually alert and active.

posted October 18, 2012 03:31 PM            

By Sarah Parnass | ABC OTUS News – 3 hrs ago

The viral campaign launched by Mitt Romney's line about "binders full of women" at the second presidential debate Tuesday night has moved into new territory: Amazon. com's customer review page.

In the place where shoppers would ordinarily offer their opinions on an Avery Durable View Binder, they have instead used the space to poke fun at the Republican candidate.

"I don't want to be filed away in an inferior and confusing electronic doohickey that I couldn't possibly understand. Or heaven forbid, have a man ask for and listen to my ideas!" wrote a commenter named " Bazinga ." "I'd much rather rely on this top-of-the-line, 1980s style Avery Durable binder. It's the choice America can trust."

While "Bazinga" gave the binder five stars, another reviewer was less impressed.

"Maybe it's just my women, but they don't seem to want to fit into the space I've designated for them in this binder. They keep sticking out over the edges, even getting away in some cases," wrote "Sabriel ." "I thought using clear, glass-ceiling page protectors would help, but it doesn't seem to slow them down anymore."

The comments were spurred by Romney's explanation of how he tried to recruit women for his cabinet when he was governor of Massachusetts.

"I went to a number of women's groups and said, 'Can you help us find folks,' and they brought us whole binders full of women," Romney said, in response to a question about pay discrepancies between men and women. The line sparked a slew of social media accounts under the name "Binders Full of Women."

Many of the comments on the Amazon page referred to the accommodations Romney said he provided to his then-chief-of-staff, a mother of two school-age children.

The woman Romney was referring to was Beth Myers. Myers led the search for Romney's vice presidential pick and continues to serve as one of Romney's senior campaign advisers.

"She said, 'I can't be here until 7 or 8 at night. I need to be able to get home at 5 so I can be there for making dinner for my kids and being with them when they get home from school. 'So we said, 'fine, let's have a flexible schedule so you can have hours that work for you,'" Romney told the debate audience Tuesday.

"As a woman, I was disappointed that the 'gap-free' claim was in reference to the rings in the binder, not to gender equity in wages. But the trade-off is that the binder did let me leave work in time to go home and cook dinner," Monica Miller commented .

Wednesday Massachusetts residents challenged Romney's claim that he'd made strong efforts to recruit women for his gubernatorial cabinet.

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Presenting an intelligent & informed opinion or presenting facts contrary to your beliefs isn`t blind . It is being intellectually alert and active.

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I don't see intelligence or well informed.If you do, that says something about you.

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posted October 18, 2012 03:35 PM            

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If you don't, that says something about you.

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YES, it says something about each person. I agree 100%.

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posted October 18, 2012 03:36 PM            

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posted October 18, 2012 03:45 PM            

Nothing whatsoever acoustic.

Further, women who should know, women who worked for O'Bomber in the White House call the environment there a "HOSTILE WORKPLACE ENVIRONMENT FOR WOMEN".

And, this is the idiot crowing about the wonderful things he's done for women. Really? Who?

Women are among the hardest hit in the O'Bomber economy...along with minorities and recent college graduates. O'Bomber has put more women on Food Stamps than any president in history. And this is the president whose economy has put more women on unemployment than any president since Jimmy "The Teeth Carter. Further, this is the president who has put more women below the poverty level than any president since Jimmy "The Teeth" Carter.

Now those are accomplishments for O'Bomber to crow about for sure.

posted October 18, 2012 04:07 PM            

Did you delete the two different ways I explained it to you in those two threads. If you haven't, then obviously you can't claim I've done nothing whatsoever.

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Further, women who should know, women who worked for O'Bomber in the White House call the environment there a "HOSTILE WORKPLACE ENVIRONMENT FOR WOMEN".

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Yeah, she said specifically:

“I remember once I told Valerie that, I said if it weren’t for the president, this place would be in court for a hostile workplace,” Dunn is heard telling Suskind. “Because it actually fit all of the classic legal requirements for a genuinely hostile workplace to women.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/friction-over-womens-role-in-obama-white-house-was-intense/2011/09/19/gIQA9OUygK_story.html

On Monday, the leaders of two women’s advocacy groups, the Feminist Majority and the National Organization for Women, said in interviews that they believed Obama was running an inclusive White House.

“Do I want President Obama to be a flaming effetist feminist like I am? Sure,” said Terry O’Neill, NOW’s president. “But overall, as the leader of a women’s organization, I have to say President Obama is a good president.”

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And, this is the idiot crowing about the wonderful things he's done for women. Really? Who?

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Yes, and you're hardly one to call a person an idiot.

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Do I need to tell you where to stuff your puny nonsense arguments which contradict facts acoustic.

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posted October 18, 2012 05:17 PM            

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I don't see intelligence or well informed.If you do, that says something about you.

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Well ami, just what exactly it say about me?
That I am educated and have an appreciation for others opinions, fact sharing and the ability to disagree without abuse?

posted October 18, 2012 05:31 PM            

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Well ami, just what exactly it say about me?
That I am educated and have an appreciation for others opinions, fact sharing and the ability to disagree without abuse?

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No, not really.

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posted October 18, 2012 05:34 PM            

I just thought Id add an article that interviewed the people who gave Romney these binders...

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“We contacted both candidates before the final election,” said Liz Levin, who was chairman of MassGAP until 2010. “... We wanted to make sure that people knew how many good, qualified, terrific ladies there were.”

Romney agreed to work with the group, Levin said
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Several weeks after the election, they presented several hundred applicants to Healey, said Levin, who is an Obama supporter but stressed that MassGAP is a bipartisan group.

And yes, there were binders.

“There were actual binders involved,” Levin said. “Big binders. They were big. It was before stuff was done, like it is now, electronically.”

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posted October 18, 2012 05:53 PM            

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No, not really.

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Spell it out for me, what does it say then?

posted October 18, 2012 06:57 PM            

And there's no justification for O'Bomber running a White House that's a hostile workplace for women in his administration. None whatsoever...and especially after all the crowing the Marxist clown has done and is doing about how wonderful he is for women.

Not hardly!

You'd know that if you didn't have your head so far up your butt you can't see daylight.

So acoustic, there's no justification for the nonsense you're spewing in defense of an indefensible Marxist clown like O'Bomber. And especially not on women's issues.

One other thing. Word on the street is that women are wising up about O'Bomber and leaving the ranks of O'Bomber supporters in droves.

And that's what all this bullshiiit about "women in binders" is all about. Just another attempt by the Clown Prince to revive the "war on women" narrative which already failed once.