posted October 17, 2012 02:16 PM            

and he doesn't even realize how comical it was, or didn't last night!

however despite the mirth factor there is another interesting point to this story.

it was a friggin lie! mitt didn't actively go out to recruit women at all...in fact before he was elected a GROUP OF WOMEN decided to PRESENT THIS BINDER to the next governor and lobby for more women in the state government.

interesting read!

Mirror of “Mind The Binder”
I’m just making a mirror of the blog post at The Phoenix, because their server is melting at the moment:

Mind The Binder
Published Oct 16 2012, 10:46 PM by David S. Bernstein
Hey, I know about that binder! And guess what — Mitt Romney was lying about it.

From the rush transcript:

CROWLEY: Governor Romney, pay equity for women?

ROMNEY: Thank you. An important topic, and one which I learned a great deal about, particularly as I was serving as governor of my state, because I had the chance to pull together a cabinet and all the applicants seemed to be men.

And I — and I went to my staff, and I said, “How come all the people for these jobs are — are all men.” They said, “Well, these are the people that have the qualifications.” And I said, “Well, gosh, can’t we — can’t we find some — some women that are also qualified?”

And — and so we — we took a concerted effort to go out and find women who had backgrounds that could be qualified to become members of our cabinet.

I went to a number of women’s groups and said, “Can you help us find folks,” and they brought us whole binders full of women.

I was proud of the fact that after I staffed my Cabinet and my senior staff, that the University of New York in Albany did a survey of all 50 states, and concluded that mine had more women in senior leadership positions than any other state in America.

Now one of the reasons I was able to get so many good women to be part of that team was because of our recruiting effort.
Not a true story.

What actually happened was that in 2002 — prior to the election, not even knowing yet whether it would be a Republican or Democratic administration — a bipartisan group of women in Massachusetts formed MassGAP to address the problem of few women in senior leadership positions in state government. There were more than 40 organizations involved with the Massachusetts Women’s Political Caucus (also bipartisan) as the lead sponsor.

They did the research and put together the binder full of women qualified for all the different cabinet positions, agency heads, and authorities and commissions. They presented this binder to Governor Romney when he was elected.

I have written about this before, in various contexts; tonight I’ve checked with several people directly involved in the MassGAP effort who confirm that this history as I’ve just presented it is correct — and that Romney’s claim tonight, that he asked for such a study, is false.

I will write more about this later, but for tonight let me just make a few quick additional points. First of all, according to MassGAP and MWPC, Romney did appoint 14 women out of his first 33 senior-level appointments, which is a reasonably impressive 42 percent. However, as I have reported before, those were almost all to head departments and agencies that he didn’t care about — and in some cases, that he quite specifically wanted to not really do anything. None of the senior positions Romney cared about — budget, business development, etc. — went to women.

Secondly, a UMass-Boston study found that the percentage of senior-level appointed positions held by women actually declined throughout the Romney administration, from 30.0% prior to his taking office, to 29.7% in July 2004, to 27.6% near the end of his term in November 2006. (It then began rapidly rising when Deval Patrick took office.)

Third, note that in Romney’s story as he tells it, this man who had led and consulted for businesses for 25 years didn’t know any qualified women, or know where to find any qualified women. So what does that say?

posted October 17, 2012 03:06 PM            

Everyone's abuzz about Romney's "binders full of women" comment and I don't even know what it means. Should I be embarrassed at not getting it?

I understand that his story connected to this comment is not true, which supposedly adds insult to injury, but since I don't understand the original comment I can't decide.

Would you mind explaining? Perhaps I'm having a brain freeze

Thanks.

posted October 17, 2012 03:19 PM            

Now I did hear some Whopper's last night. So big, I thought I must be in a Burger King. But no, it was just O'Bomber doing his usual...lying through his teeth.

For instance: O'Bomber lied through his teeth about making an announcement in the Rose Garden the day after the attack in Libya that terrorists were responsible. Absolute lie...a Whopper. O'Bomber sent his UN Ambassador out the next Sunday to appear on 5 different national news shows to say the attacks were caused by an internet video. Jay Carney was repeatedly trotted out in front of the White House press corps to say the attack was in protest of the internet video.

O'Bomber himself talked about that same internet video 6 times in his UN speech...days later.

And O'Bomber lied through his teeth about not cutting oil and gas leases on federal lands. He did...big time.

But as it relates to women, the usual whiners, shriekers and howlers over women's issues are the biggest culprits in underpaying women in the workplace.

Those include O'Bomber and I'm sorry Romney didn't nail O'Bomber on the issue.

Now, who is David S. Bernstein and exactly how would David S. Bernstein have any knowledge about the facts of the Romney administration as Governor?

I wouldn't ask except a bio search under David S. Bernstein drew a blank. So is David S. Bernstein a shill for the O'Bomber campaign hiding behind a blog poster? Or is David S. Bernstein a member of the O'Bomber reelection campaign?

Get back to me. Inquiring minds want to know.

posted October 17, 2012 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
Oh, he was asked essentially about equal pay for equal work for women. The question was posed by a woman. In response, Romney told a story about how he had his people search for qualified women to fill his cabinet while he was governor of Massachusetts. These people supposedly presented his with a binder full of qualified women.

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So what? I give you. If you guys get the government you deserve, there is nothing I, Jwhop, Ian or anyone with any sense can do to help you. I wash my hands of it.

posted October 17, 2012 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
Oh, he was asked essentially about equal pay for equal work for women. The question was posed by a woman. In response, Romney told a story about how he had his people search for qualified women to fill his cabinet while he was governor of Massachusetts. These people supposedly presented his with a binder full of qualified women.

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Thanks Acoustic. I know the context in which the comment was made. Would you believe I even watched the whole debate. But I still don't understand why the twitter world is going nuts over the comment. What does "binders full of women imply?"

I'm beginning to feel like I should know ...
Would you mind spelling it out for me? Thx.

posted October 17, 2012 04:25 PM            

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posted October 17, 2012 05:05 PM            

Thanks guys, for explaining. I think I got it! He was trying to show that he's all for equality for women, and even wants to promote them in the workplace, but instead ended up implying the exact opposite with his sexist(?) comment! What a Freudian slip!

Very awkward for him, I would imagine, as the comment has really taken off ...

I just saw this tweet from Big Bird ...
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“Injustice. Binders full of women sold for $0.77 at Staples. Binders full of men selling for $1.00.”

Juni, I've watched replays of Dirty Dancing several times on TV, and it's one of my favs. The pic and the quote says it all Thx

posted October 17, 2012 05:10 PM            

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ROTFL!!!!

Yup, my lesson in comprehension is complete now!! Thx Mockingbird!

posted October 17, 2012 07:18 PM            

Wow, who knew use of the word.."binder" was "sexist". Not me! But then, I actually went to school..and not in Rio Linda, CA or another educationally challenged backwater.

So Romney had "binders" submitted or compiled, notebooks with the names of qualified women..and perhaps their bios and qualifications, to serve in his Cabinet when he was Governor.

Hahaha, so right off the bat, we know Mitt Romney is a "Male Chauvinist Pig", an MCP, ...and a stalker or he wouldn't have been caught with biographical information on all those women.

And, what difference does it make if she's qualified to serve or not? Qualifications of women when viewed through the eyes of men are irrelevant in our male dominated society.

I mean look at whom O'Bomber picked to serve in the White House. Stephanie Cutter and Valerie Jarrett and he picked Susan Rice to serve as UN Ambassador. These are 3 of the biggest F-Ups in America. So, O'Bomber gets it. A woman's qualifications don't matter.

posted October 17, 2012 07:44 PM            

While O'Bomber was patting himself on the back for signing the Lilly Ledbetter Act..a bill supposedly mandating equal pay for women in the workplace; he forgot to mention that he..himself..the Messiah O'Bomber pays women who work for him in the White House LESS than the men.

You women might want to pay attention here so you can separate the fact from the BS that O'Bomber has been slinging.

Oh no you say, that can't be true. But YES it is true and in spite of all O'Bomber's bullshiiit to the contrary.

Not only is that true but O'Bomber has a pattern of paying women who work for him less than he pays men.

That pattern of less pay for women goes all the way back to O'Bomber's days in the US Senate and continued during O'Bomber's run for the presidency where he paid women staffers less than men staffers.

And now, he's continuing the practice in the White House. This is the true test of a person's belief system.

It's not what O'Bomber says..or anyone else for that matter. It's what O'Bomber did and is still doing that matters.

So, when you strip away all the high sounding rhetoric, all that's left is fly-blown bullshiiit.

Obama touts fair pay for women, despite records showing women paid less in his own White House
Caroline May
Political Reporter

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According to a report published by the Free Beacon in April, the 2011 annual report on White House staff revealed that the median annual salary for female White House employees was 18 percent less than male employees — $60,000 compared to $71,000....

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And in 2008, Scripps Howard syndicated columnist Deroy Murdock noted that as in Obama’s U.S. Senate office, women were paid less than men: While the average male staffer brought home $54,397, female staffers averaged $45,152......
http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/16/obama-touts- fair-pay-for-women-despite-records-showing-women-paid-less-in-his-own-white-house/

Not to worry Ami. The fix was in. The headlines already written before the debate.
O'BOMBER WINS SECOND DEBATE

The only thing which would have gotten those headlines pulled would have been O'Bomber going into catatonic shock during the debate.

Then the headline at the NY Times would have read...O'BOMBER IN THOUGHTFUL MOOD DURING DEBATE

But, expectations have fallen so low for O'Bomber that some people give him points just for managing to find his way to his chair on the stage.

posted October 17, 2012 09:13 PM            

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posted October 17, 2012 09:22 PM            

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Hmmm, for those who live in Rio Linda California and other backward communities where education seldom rears it's head; a "binder" is a notebook which holds pages of materials...usually 2 or 3 hole punched to fit through the 2 or 3 ring fasteners.

Wow, who knew use of the word.."binder" was "sexist". Not me! But then, I actually went to school..and not in Rio Linda, CA or another educationally challenged backwater.

So Romney had "binders" submitted or compiled, notebooks with the names of qualified women..and perhaps their bios and qualifications, to serve in his Cabinet when he was Governor.

Hahaha, so right off the bat, we know Mitt Romney is a "Male Chauvinist Pig", an MCP, ...and a stalker or he wouldn't have been caught with biographical information on all those women.

And, what difference does it make if she's qualified to serve or not? Qualifications of women when viewed through the eyes of men are irrelevant in our male dominated society.

I mean look at whom O'Bomber picked to serve in the White House. Stephanie Cutter and Valerie Jarrett and he picked Susan Rice to serve as UN Ambassador. These are 3 of the biggest F-Ups in America. So, O'Bomber gets it. A woman's qualifications don't matter.

How dare Mitt Romney have lists of qualified women compiled and put in "binders" in an attempt to find qualified women to serve in state government. Sexist Pig for sure.

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posted October 17, 2012 09:29 PM            

Listen up ace. You'll be able to get that done when pigs sprout wings and learn how to fly.

The numbers don't lie. Leftists lie but the pay numbers for O'Bomber's staff in the US Senate and in the White House don't lie.

And acoustic, O'Bomber pays women less than men and has a pattern of paying women less than men...as the pay numbers show.

posted October 17, 2012 09:54 PM            

it was just an awkward, thoughtless remark that was picked up around the world as ridiculous.

posted October 17, 2012 10:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
A binder is a flipping notebook. You, usual suspects, will find any stoopid thing to get yourselves worked up on

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It's just funny; it will be replaced by something else next week. I was LMAO at "Ludacris: 'I've got hoes in every zip code.' Mitt Romney: 'I've got binders full of women.'"

posted October 17, 2012 11:45 PM            

There's also nothing sexist to be found in Romney's comment...unless of course leftists are trying to revive their failed "war on women" narrative. Of course, if that's the game, leftists and usual suspects would have found sexism in Romney saying the 'sky is blue'. An obvious reference to a male color and sexism rears it's ugly head...in the leftist bubble world of unreality.

But if women really want to know what some women thought about working in O'Bomber's White House they should check this out:

White House Communications Director Anita Dunn says in the book: 'This place would be in court for a hostile workplace because it actually fit all of the classic legal requirements for a genuinely hostile workplace to women.'

Christine Romer: 'I felt like a piece of meat,' Christina Romer, former head of the Council of Economic Advisers, said of one meeting with Summers.

Both of these women are highly credentialed, highly educated and regardless what one thought of their politics, they are well regarded.

Oh, and they're not the only women who had issues with the hostility to women in the O'Bomber White House.

Obama's White House is a 'hostile environment for females that treats women like meat'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2038386/Obamas-White-House-hostile-environment-women-treated-like-meat.html

posted October 18, 2012 11:22 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Nothing awkward OR thoughtless about Romney saying he had bios of women in "binders". Nothing whatsoever.

There's also nothing sexist to be found in Romney's comment...unless of course leftists are trying to revive their failed "war on women" narrative. Of course, if that's the game, leftists and usual suspects would have found sexism in Romney saying the 'sky is blue'. An obvious reference to a male color and sexism rears it's ugly head...in the leftist bubble world of unreality.

But if women really want to know what some women thought about working in O'Bomber's White House they should check this out:

White House Communications Director Anita Dunn says in the book: [b]'This place would be in court for a hostile workplace because it actually fit all of the classic legal requirements for a genuinely hostile workplace to women.'

Christine Romer: 'I felt like a piece of meat,' Christina Romer, former head of the Council of Economic Advisers, said of one meeting with Summers.

Both of these women are highly credentialed, highly educated and regardless what one thought of their politics, they are well regarded.

Oh, and they're not the only women who had issues with the hostility to women in the O'Bomber White House.

Obama's White House is a 'hostile environment for females that treats women like meat'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2038386/Obamas-Whit e-House-hostile-environment-women-treated-like-meat.html

My point is...it's best to get off the Romney "war on women" meme. It's the war that never was; while you've been ignoring the way O'Bomber actually treats women who work for him. Not a pretty picture there.[/B]

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