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Randall
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posted December 29, 2012 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/28/hobby-lobby-obamacare_n_2375041.html?utm_hp_ref=business

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posted January 02, 2013 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think it is incredibly small minded/short-sighted to slight your employees for the sake of a buck or two today...as do COSTCO, now small petutas and growing still every year.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/17/business/yourmoney/17costco.html?_r=3&pagewanted=all

instead of being CHEAP and NASTY it is possible to build a solid gold business with loyal (and healthy) workers and customers

just a pity it takes the govt twisting corporates' arms to get them to learn this lesson!

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posted January 02, 2013 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, medical device companies are going to get it. Give Obama a hot dog stand and let him operate it for 3 months. Then, he would know what a teenager who mows lawns does.
He is like when your dumb uncle gets a managerial job because his brother owns the company. He ruins everything until he gets the same salary for picking up coffee and donuts

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posted January 02, 2013 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They object for religious reasons, and a lot of their employees probably agree.

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posted January 02, 2013 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
religious reasons my eye. how long do we have to listen to the "religious" skinflints pretend that it's all for god? and how do you know what their employees believe? do you have to share your employers' religion to have the "right to work" now? that is why they have to offer insurance to employees who do NOT agree with them. those who do can please themselves already, and won't have to change a thing.

looking out for your workers gives you a loyal workforce, in good health, and a thriving, growing business. even customers are impressed when they go to a store that has HAPPY HEALTHY employees.

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posted January 03, 2013 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is for sincere religious reasons. Did you read the article?

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posted January 03, 2013 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, and i wonder how you know how sincere they are? or whether their employees agree or not?

and if the employees DO agree then i guess most of them won't be using that particular offering, will they? exactly whom is hurt by provision for one very inexpensive treatment? it costs more to cover pregnancy and labour costs, by the way...

storms in teacups all the way. IMHO

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posted January 03, 2013 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Clearly the cost doesn't matter to them. It is against their religious principles, which is my point. They would rather pay for pregnancy than for what is in their eyes murder.

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posted January 03, 2013 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
seems more like they would rather pay lawyers than comply with the law of the land...religious objections, as you so kindly pointed out, are used by lots of people - because they are so easy to use, and so hard to refute.

the cost i was talking about is the INSURANCE companies' and THEY are the ones who would rather cover an inexpensive drug than a whole pregnancy.

if the employees are so against morning after pills that option won't be used and it certainly doesn't cost much to cover. all this moral outrage is a smokescreen IMO

however they are appealing the decision so i doubt they are "willing" to pay...obviously at that rate they will not have to worry about it for long, they will be out of business!!

it's kind of like the koch brothers and karl rove spending hundreds of millions of dollars trying to avert new taxes that would be less, because they can't control the whole government.

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posted January 04, 2013 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hobby Lobby is a Christian organization first founded in a garage. They are getting plenty of publicity (the good kind) and support over their decision.

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posted January 04, 2013 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
of course they are. so did chick fil-a. then they found out that just as many thought they were being humbugs. it will all iron out eventually.

but tell me, how does it affect your religious beliefs if someone who works for you needs a morning after pill? are you allowed to fire them for that?

i wonder how many disabled vets they are willing to hire? are they pro-life once it is out of the womb?

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