posted January 05, 2013 07:32 AM            

Obama got elected because he was black, not in spite of it, or because it was immaterial. Martin Luther King would not have wanted Obama. MLK told us to look at a man's heart and not his color. Hence, the election of Obama for the reason he was elected would be antithetical to MLK's outlook on humanity.

That being said, let's look at Obama's election. Black people voted for a black person. No one KNEW Obama. He had no record, virtually. What was known about Obama was hidden by the media. If not, white America would not have voted for him. White America is conservative, basically. They have conservative values of family, a work ethic, Judeo-Christian values etc.

Obama came up as an unknown and acted as if he would unite people. White people feel guilty about slavery. Most white people do not hate black people. Obama seemed like a chance for white America to show black America that they were ONE. Most people want this. Most people are good at heart. most people do not hate due to skin color. So, Obama presented a dream.

There are other factors, such as the dumbing down of America. Few Americans know basic civics and basic American and World History. The TV is stupidites, mostly. People care about the stuidities more than actual events playing out on the world or US stage.

The entitlement mentality got to be the prevailing way of thought for more than 50% of the country. This was from a slow eroding of values such as pride in self reliance.

The family was not revered,as the basic building block of society. The family was independent in earlier times. The erosion of the family was one of the roots of the election of Obama.

Slavery was a key root in the election of Obama. Black America was angry and RIGHTLY SO. White America wanted to try to make up for slavery. The sentiment was laudable. Slavery was a blight on America. However, this dream was a chimera.

Back to today, Obama is entrenched. He, either, stole the election, strong armed people with union thugs or tapped into the dumbed down population by cheap promises on election day. It was a combination of all of these, I am sure.

It is over for our freedom. It will be eroded, rather slowly, but it is not that slow, if you watch.

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posted January 05, 2013 08:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am going to write this and not come back to this thread. I will tell you the truth, but if you don't want to accept it, I am not responsible for that

Obama got elected because he was black, not in spite of it, or because it was immaterial. Martin Luther King would not have wanted Obama. MLK told us to look at a man's heart and not his color. Hence, the election of Obama for the reason he was elected would be antithetical to MLK's outlook on humanity.

That being said, let's look at Obama's election. Black people voted for a black person. No one KNEW Obama. He had no record, virtually. What was known about Obama was hidden by the media. If not, white America would not have voted for him. White America is conservative, basically. They have conservative values of family, a work ethic, Judeo-Christian values etc.

Obama came up as an unknown and acted as if he would unite people. White people feel guilty about slavery. Most white people do not hate black people. Obama seemed like a chance for white America to show black America that they were ONE. Most people want this. Most people are good at heart. most people do not hate due to skin color. So, Obama presented a dream.

There are other factors, such as the dumbing down of America. Few Americans know basic civics and basic American and World History. The TV is stupidites, mostly. People care about the stuidities more than actual events playing out on the world or US stage.

The entitlement mentality got to be the prevailing way of thought for more than 50% of the country. This was from a slow eroding of values such as pride in self reliance.

The family was not revered,as the basic building block of society. The family was independent in earlier times. The erosion of the family was one of the roots of the election of Obama.

Slavery was a key root in the election of Obama. Black America was angry and RIGHTLY SO. White America wanted to try to make up for slavery. The sentiment was laudable. Slavery was a blight on America. However, this dream was a chimera.

Back to today, Obama is entrenched. He, either, stole the election, strong armed people with union thugs or tapped into the dumbed down population by cheap promises on election day. It was a combination of all of these, I am sure.

It is over for our freedom. It will be eroded, rather slowly, but it is not that slow, if you watch.

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posted January 05, 2013 10:17 AM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
lexx, you can move it can`t you?

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posted January 05, 2013 01:12 PM            

personally, i find even this generalized post full of errors. obama was not unknown, in fact he served several years in the senate and was a senator in illinois before that. more than the lovely sarah palin. but then conservatives like to gloss over fact in more cases than not...as in their continued characterization of carter as a come-from-nothing with no experience also. he was not only governor but a seasoned businessman, and very successful too. but that doesn't get in the way of propaganda.

whether you approve of obama or not, it was time for things to go in the opposite direction. if anything he has done way too little to a)curb the military and homeland security excesses b) protect our food supply from patent-ization c) cleaning up our energy production. nuclear, coal and oil still run rampant despite his efforts to curb them.

however there are now more jobs in "green" energy than coal, a step in the right direction despite - again - the propaganda that says green energy is a non-starter. whether you like him or not the fact that he is black has made a HUGE difference for the upcoming generation of nonwhite kids, and has brought up the shadow of this country like nothing else before him. once exposed, that shadow can start to be healed.

racism IS, ami, and trying to pretend that because it SHOULDN't MATTER it doesn't is just plain stubborness. this country is not particularly conservative, never has been. despite all their faults in modern eyes, the founding fathers were RADICALS in their time, and so the tone was set for this country all those years ago.

posted January 05, 2013 08:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
White America is conservative, basically. They have conservative values of family, a work ethic, Judeo-Christian values etc.

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So is Black America. If anything, blacks feel less entitled than whites as they work harder to get ahead without complaint while all too many whites are wondering why they're not living the good life yet, or blaming racial minorities for stealing their jobs or place in college when their abilities or efforts were inferior to the one who succeeded over them (because, after all, they're white, they're SUPPOSED to be chosen first, that is the entitlement they feel by virtue of having been born white).

It's also plausible that the reason Prop 8 passed (barely) in CA was because so many more black people came out to vote for Obama who, for their conservative Christian values, also voted for Prop 8 (which those interviewed said, and blacks I know told me was the case, even if the NAACP officially condemned Prop 8).

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posted January 06, 2013 07:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am not going to come back to argue with people, so don't any of you nasties get that idea

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posted January 06, 2013 08:47 AM            

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I am going to write this and not come back to this thread. I will tell you the truth, but if you don't want to accept it, I am not responsible for that.

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Dictatorship?

posted January 06, 2013 08:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by juniperb:
[b]lexx, you can move it can`t you?

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I am aware a Mod can`t edit or lock anothers thread but don`t remember moving them is a no-no.

posted January 06, 2013 09:00 AM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Dictatorship?

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Yes, it is not funny, Juni. Once people are disarmed, the ONLY ones armed are the government. I am sure you are a student of history and know this.

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posted January 06, 2013 02:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am not going to come back to argue with people, so don't any of you nasties get that idea

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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
Name calling AGAIN?

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Be nice, LEXX. If I am bad, you can still be good

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posted January 06, 2013 02:16 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
lexx, you can move it can`t you?

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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
Moderators are not allowed to move or edit other moderator's threads/posts.
I asked Randall to move it.

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Originally posted by juniperb:

I am aware a Mod can`t edit or lock anothers thread but don`t remember moving them is a no-no.

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Originally posted by Randall:
Mods can't move other Mods' strings. But it is very controversial and leaning more towards the political.

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posted January 06, 2013 02:30 PM            

there was an assault weapons ban for ten years during clinton's and early bush's terms. it expired and the violence bounced right back! surprise surprise.

posted January 06, 2013 02:33 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
yes ami, YOU are the one who would be a dictator if only you were allowed, so you see it in others who don't necessarily do things the way YOU decree they SHOULD be.

there was an assault weapons ban for ten years during clinton's and early bush's terms. it expired and the violence bounced right back! surprise surprise.

no one is coming for your guns. your racist remarks and attempts to blame everyone but yourself for the fact that people disagree with your bigotry in general, indicate to me that perhaps you have eris conjunct ur anus?(not a typo)

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LOL Good one!

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posted January 06, 2013 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
yes ami, YOU are the one who would be a dictator if only you were allowed, so you see it in others who don't necessarily do things the way YOU decree they SHOULD be.

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Originally posted by katatonic:

no one is coming for your guns. your racist remarks and attempts to blame everyone but yourself for the fact that people disagree with your bigotry in general,.....

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posted January 06, 2013 03:28 PM            

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posted January 06, 2013 04:29 PM            

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

posted January 06, 2013 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
One day, you all will say that Ami was right

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As Mark Twain said--

Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please.

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.