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Faith
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posted January 15, 2013 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
I said it is hypothetical.

Hypothetically they could bring in UN or NATO troops, or even use paramilitary forces like Xe...some of those "employees" are international mercenaries.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Xe

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posted January 15, 2013 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 15, 2013 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Waco
Watts
the whiskey rebellion
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What good did being armed do?

And how about the civil war...was the land destruction not devastating enough to impress anyone?

I am leaving not because i feel superior but i continually come up against personal insults in place of discussionof points. You are perfectly entitled to label me anything you wish...if it makes you feel better to pretend i am just crazy or dimwitted, go for it. I am interested in solutions not point scoring .

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posted January 15, 2013 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
Waco
Watts
the whiskey rebellion
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What good did being armed do?

And how about the civil war...was the land destruction not devastating enough to impress anyone?

I am leaving not because i feel superior but i continually come up against personal insults in place of discussionof points. You are perfectly entitled to label me anything you wish...if it makes you feel better to pretend i am just crazy or dimwitted, go for it. I am interested in solutions not point scoring .


You leave all the time, but come back. Do you miss us

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posted January 15, 2013 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
Waco
Watts
the whiskey rebellion
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What good did being armed do?

All different situations completely, but I will say that the 1900's saw government-induced genocide across Europe and Asia while the US remained unaffected, except insofar as we intervened to clean up after what Hitler did...after he took all the guns.

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Originally posted by katatonic:
And how about the civil war...was the land destruction not devastating enough to impress anyone?

You ask questions that make NO sense. Nobody is looking for war, kat, but sometimes people take up arms to defend themselves against aggressors. The Union army attacked the Confederates. What was the South supposed to do? Just submit?

In your opinion, was it right or wrong for the US to invade Europe in WWII?

They freed the people in concentrations camps, you know.

They used guns, you know.

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Originally posted by katatonic:
I am leaving not because i feel superior but i continually come up against personal insults in place of discussionof points. You are perfectly entitled to label me anything you wish...if it makes you feel better to pretend i am just crazy or dimwitted, go for it. I am interested in solutions not point scoring .

Nah. I had to ask you a few times on this thread to focus on what was happening in discussion between you and me instead of on Ami's faith.

I'd say goodbye but you are probably coming back, and when you come back you'll be as enigmatic and elusive as ever. You lecture me, but trying to correct your assumptions is like punching a cloud.

You are all smoke, mirrors, lectures, and insults.

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posted January 15, 2013 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Nah. You are just as petty as the rest of us, and I had to ask you a few times on this thread to focus on what was happening in discussion between you and me instead of on Ami's faith.

I'd say goodbye but you are probably coming back, and when you come back you'll be as enigmatic and elusive as ever. You lecture me, but trying to correct your assumptions is like punching a cloud.

You are all smoke, mirrors, lectures, and insults.


So well said

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posted January 15, 2013 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some people are wondering if these folks were on Obama's kill list:
http://www.naturalnews.com/038616_John_Noveske_mysterious_death_car_crash.html
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/11/justice/georgia-gun-video-producer/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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posted January 15, 2013 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH YEA
Them and MORE-- Andrew Breitbart for one

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posted January 15, 2013 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the Natural News link above:

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Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold's medical records have never been made available to the public.

Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.

Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.

Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara's parents said ".... the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil...")

Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
(Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself.)

Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.

Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and "other drugs for the conditions."

Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.

Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
New York high school.

Missing from list... 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds....

What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21...... killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az

What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24..... killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado

What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or

What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct
Roberts is the only one that I haven't heard about being on drugs of some kind.


So why is Obama not taking away the drugs?

Doesn't he care about the children??

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posted January 15, 2013 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OH YEA
Them and MORE-- Andrew Breitbart for one


And what can Obama's defenders here say? "No he doesn't have a kill list for Americans"?

Yes he does.

"He would never actually kill an American."?

Then why does he have that list, and why has he actually done it before?

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posted January 16, 2013 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Kill Lists" is a double edged sword. More than 2 dozen potential witness in 9-11 were also killed, and not by the Obama Regime. Perhaps they were on Dubya's "Kill List"?

There is a Cabal beyond Obama that does most of the mischief. You will not know about it by just scratching the surface. There is a point beyond which Obama cannot go, else he would be given the JFK treatment.

It is that Cabal which does not allow dangerous drugs to be taken off market. These forces exist beyond government, and only individual self-improvement plus increase awareness will help in being safe form their machinations.

Addiitonal Point: How many people who have faith in guns for self-defence against a perceived threat by their government, how many of them would have NOT bought their weapon of choice by now? I think 0%.

Thus, any "gun control" attempts now would be like bolting the door after the thief has left. If anything, strict gun control laws would actually prevent the poor and underprivileged from buying guns. Why is this angle being overlooked by right wing media?

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posted January 16, 2013 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All the corruption has reached critical mass, in this time in history. Obama is a useful idiot, in his own way, too.

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posted January 16, 2013 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not just a perceived threat by the government: they spy on me, steal my information, take my money...they will grope my body at the airport and soon on highways, too...they threaten, intimidate, claim the power to indefinitely detain anyone they choose without trial.

If someone doesn't perceive the threat it's because they are willfully ignoring it. Whether one perceives it or not, it's there.

I agree that Obama is a puppet, but I think he is serving as a very convincing, active puppet, and I won't let him off the hook just because some people get the warm fuzzies about him.

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posted January 16, 2013 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NY State senator Greg Ball:

"We are turning law-abiding citizens into criminals, and hoping that tomorrow on the front pages we will be seen as preventing tragedies."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rRSUEaLKvA&feature=youtu.be

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posted January 16, 2013 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
It's not just a perceived threat by the government: they spy on me, steal my information, take my money...they will grope my body at the airport and soon on highways, too...they threaten, intimidate, claim the power to indefinitely detain anyone they choose without trial.

If someone doesn't perceive the threat it's because they are willfully ignoring it. Whether one perceives it or not, it's there.

I agree that Obama is a puppet, but I think he is serving as a very convincing, active puppet, and I won't let him off the hook just because some people get the warm fuzzies about him.


I don't let him off the hook, at all. He sold his soul to the devil and the devil exacts payment. Karma, baby

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posted January 17, 2013 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you NativelyJoan

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