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Ami Anne
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posted January 21, 2013 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear God. Help Us


Judge Napolitano explains it

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posted January 21, 2013 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do all you dumbed down people think of this. Huh?

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posted January 21, 2013 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Link? (Preferably something that shows how it's significantly worse than Bush's "free speech zones.")

And remember, do unto others as you'd have them do onto you. That includes not calling them dumb, not if you're gonna get upset over personal attacks if they call you that.

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posted January 21, 2013 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought I put the link up.

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posted January 21, 2013 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Link? (Preferably something that shows how it's significantly worse than Bush's "free speech zones.")

And remember, do unto others as you'd have them do onto you. That includes not calling them dumb, not if you're gonna get upset over personal attacks if they call you that.


What is worse? Your losing your freedoms or getting angry at dumbed down people?


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posted January 21, 2013 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKjy0PDlKV4&feature=youtu.be

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posted January 21, 2013 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This abominable legislation enjoyed overwhelming support from both political parties in Congress because the establishment loves power, fears dissent and hates inconvenience, and it doesn’t give a damn about the Constitution. It passed the Senate by unanimous consent, and only three members of the House voted against it. And the president signed it in secret. It is more typical of contemporary China than America. It is more George III than George Washington.

Your beloved Republicans are as bloody dirty as their co-horts, the Democrats. Guess "who" put forth the bill???
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/03/15/can-secret-service-tell-to-shut-up/#ixzz2IchPPyH0

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posted January 21, 2013 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Your beloved Republicans are as bloody dirty as their co-horts, the Democrats. Guess "who" put forth the bill???
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/03/15/can-secret-service-tell-to-shut-up/#ixzz2 IchPPyH0


I don't love the Republicans. There are very few honest people there. I did not agree with Ron Paul on Israel but he was honest. the same with Rand Paul. Marco Rubio is honest. Most of the rest of the Republicans are worthless sell outs especially that Roberts who was supposed to be the safeguard for tyranny by virtue of being on the Supreme Court. Obama had to have had something on him. There is no other way he would have sold out with the"tax, not a tax" thing.

It is over, Juni. The dumbed down people still don't see it except for the Obama phone lady

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posted January 21, 2013 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
perhaps I should have said right wing conservetives?

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posted January 21, 2013 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
perhaps I should have said right wing conservetives?



Most of them have sold out, but not all. Paul Ryan sold out, so there you go. It is over, Juni. Jwhop and I ( and others) tried to tell people. People would not listen. Now, they will vomit on it.

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posted January 21, 2013 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We`re ALL in this boat together and all the whining and dining isn`t going to make it better.

You can`t blame any single party or person for the mess the goverment is in. It is a collection of misdeeds and perversions all along the way , all parties all prezs on a power trip.

To say there is a dumbed down party is to say one and all is part and parcel of it. You included.

If not, you wouldn`t buy into Rush.

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posted January 21, 2013 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rush is one the precious few who is not dumbed down. There are still a few who are not, but precious few.

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posted January 21, 2013 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyway, Juni, rather than going at me, what do you think of Obama's grab for our free speech( as well as our heath care etc etc etc)

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posted January 21, 2013 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you haven`t gleaned that info, you never will... a shame really as long as you have been posting here.

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posted January 21, 2013 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this act is dated 2011. passed by all but three members of congress, and actually a little better than what was there before.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/restricted.asp

obama as "guilty" as the rest perhaps but hardly the perp or monster in the mix.

so fire congress, it's long past due...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkg-bzTHeAk

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posted January 21, 2013 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKjy0PDlKV4&feature=youtu.be


I find I don't have patience for FOX News anymore, too much BS. They've even mistaken the Onion for real news before (though National Review was even worse when it printed Harry Potter was recruiting for Satanism, linking to the Onion). Even overlooking the editorials (that many viewers mistake for "fair and balanced" news) which get Weekly World News silly, the news itself is simply too suspect. They even argued in court for the right to lie to their viewers (they didn't deny they lied to favor Monsanto, they just said they had the right to make their reporters willfully lie to you, the viewer, and fire them if they didn't lie, and won their case).

Heck, their right to free speech is such that they can shout "fire" in a crowded theater, such as the case of Byron Williams. Despite this they get special protection by the NYPD.

Since then they've just been too ridiculous to believe, and one reason so many conservatives were surprised by the 2012 election was because they again betrayed viewers by telling them what they wanted to hear. And I've seen so much that I can't believe people still believe it seriously, even the regular news, such as this where there "fair & balanced" news when a pair of Russian Americans unexpectedly went against the fake news they were trying to promote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG3jBcxnpns

The editorials are much, much worse (like when little girls running a lemonade stand were questioned on Obama's policies so they could easily direct where it went rather than actual business owners who'd be affected).

I simply cannot take FOX News seriously, not even when they say what I want to hear. They have no credibility as they lie way too much and way too flagrantly. And btw, that makes anything Napolitano says suspect to me as well (and hypocritical if he's going to get onto Obama for violating free speech when FOX will fire & sue their reporters who refuse to lie to viewers). And it's not because I'm some brainwashed liberal, it's because I take note when a station repeatedly lies and fails its viewers and come to expect that behavior to be repeated. It's not the fault of the liberal media that they're not believed, it's their own fault, liars simply aren't believed...unless, of course, someone really wants to believe (one reason con-artists do so well).

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posted January 22, 2013 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone has an excuse for what they see in front of their very eyes. I should pull a Jwhop

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posted January 22, 2013 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What is worse? Your losing your freedoms or getting angry at dumbed down people?


What does the Bible say on that?

And how do you know it's not you who's dumbed down?

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posted January 22, 2013 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
What does the Bible say on that?

And how do you know it's not you who's dumbed down?



The Bible says to speak truth. Any other questions

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posted January 22, 2013 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Bible also says:

"Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." --Matthew 5:22 (note: fool = dumbed down.)

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them" --Matthew 7:12.

"Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools." --Ecclesiastes 7:9

Oh, and while I'm at it...

"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be [ie, government, or Obama in this case] are ordained of God.

"Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation."

Romans 13: 1-2

Romans 13: 7 also says to pay your taxes.

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posted January 22, 2013 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
The Bible also says:

"Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." --Matthew 5:22 (note: fool = dumbed down.)

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them" --Matthew 7:12.

"Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools." --Ecclesiastes 7:9

Oh, and while I'm at it...

"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be [ie, government, or Obama in this case] are ordained of God.

"Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation."

Romans 13: 1-2

Romans 13: 7 also says to pay your taxes.



I don' think you want to argue with me about the Bible

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posted January 22, 2013 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyway, if you do, I don't.

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