posted January 26, 2013 05:38 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Just FYI, I called Zbig a Carter relic and that his doctrines were extremely effective with the Ayatollahs, so he can shove them you know where. Of course, after I collected my course grade.

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But he's still relevant and wields power despite your opinion of him. As I said, he was Obama's foreign policy advisor. You think Mr. Grand Chessboard has no clue what the wars are about? Why would he talk about the "mythical historical narrative"?

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
As for Chevron Texaco, Shell and BP, good for them. The people around the Caspian have oil. India wants oil. The energy companies do well. Their stockholders get capital gains. It's a win situation.

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Obviously I'm not just talking about the energy companies. Stealing natural resources from other countries while keeping their people poor is not a moral "win" either. Nor are the atrocities some of the companies are committing against the natives...Chevron was throwing babies down wells in Sudan, to scare people off land they wanted to drill.

And of course, I wasn't just talking about energy, I was talking about Lockheed Martin, GE, DynCorp, Halliburton, Boeing, and so on.

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
My motivation is that 5 of my personal friends and 26 colleagues went down with those damn Towers. I almost lost my life without even being able to fight. That doesn't endear me to the whack jobs. Give me a M4 and I'll go to Afghanistan myself. Except the various militaries won't take me now because I'm too damn old.

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Which of the men who hijacked planes and crashed into the towers was from Afghanistan, anyway? Most were from the United Arab Emirates. Why aren't you going to UAE?

*Because UAE doesn't have the resources you want.*

I really don't see your point in going to Afghanistan. Revenge? That's expensive revenge! You're driving us into debt and crashing our economy for that?

I could say a lot more, but I think it's outside the scope of this thread, and you wouldn't listen anyway, because you are too invested, literally and mentally, in the web of lies that constitute US foreign policy.

posted January 26, 2013 07:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Sorcha:
Hm. YTA, I guess our dialogue is over? Okey dokes.

Lexx, you brought up my next point for me. First, let me say that I am sorry that you are in such pain. I know several people in the same boat as you and it's truly sad that anyone should have to live in such pain EVERY SINGLE DAY. It's more like surviving than living on many days and so I extend to you a big ethernet/interwebs hug. (A gentle one)

As for the pharmaceutical companies, although I cannot go in to detail, sadly, in the past my family has had some extremely intimate and terrible experiences with one of them. That period of time lasted for about 7 or 8 years and it was specifically because of what both Lexx and Faith mentioned: they are 1000% behind keeping cheaper and more effective drugs from becoming legislated. And if they cannot do this through lobbying or even other shady means, they will go so far as to chase you down and/or walk right in to your living room to make their point. (And no, I am neither crazy or melodramatic. I am deadly serious.)

And in any case, since this has become largely a thread on drugs, I will also mention the fact that many of the prescription drugs of the world are far more dangerous and often addictive than a little bit of weed. Um, hello Oxycontin?!

I don't do drugs myself but that doesn't prevent me from seeing the value of marijuana as a medication and pain reliever.

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Lexx, you brought up my next point for me. First, let me say that I am sorry that you are in such pain. I know several people in the same boat as you and it's truly sad that anyone should have to live in such pain EVERY SINGLE DAY. It's more like surviving than living on many days and so I extend to you a big ethernet/interwebs hug. (A gentle one)

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PS.
Some folks say that medical weed is just a legal excuse to get high.
Well;
I WANT PAIN/SPASM RELIEF
NOT THE HIGH!
I would prefer it did NOT make me high;
and or dingy like even prescription drugs can do.
I wish they could make a non high inducing weed or safe drug.

posted January 26, 2013 08:31 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Hi Sorca,

I apologize. I must return and read again. No, the dialogue isn't over. Yes, I have visited two of the toughest prisons in America: Rikers Island in NYC and the maximum security NY State prison nicknamed Sing Sing. I was in the military prison business myself. There is no hard labor in American prisons. Am I complaining? Not really. But prison isn't enough of a deterrent to crime if all you do is sit on your blooming arse all day.

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First, just a bit about what prisoners do:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-pentagon-and-slave-labor-in-u-s-prisons/25376

I've actually known people for real who work in the prison industry, which is unfortunately a real growth industry with privatization and demands by buyers to keep prisons at least 90% full by any means necessary so they can make enough of a profit, including one who works at Pelican Bay. Pelican Bay had another scheme where they had a minimum security prison that actually lives up to being fairly cushy as far as prisons go (not that people wanted to go there or enjoyed themselves), but they had to work or they'd get locked up with the hard core psychopaths and/or SHU, plus the abuse that happens by not only prisoners but guards (one of which bragged about "turning a black man white" using scalding water), so of course they bust their ***** to stay out of that. Whenever the county needs road work done, for example, there would be a bust of as many pot smokers (considered easy to manage as slaves) and put them to work, and the threat of putting them in with the hardened criminals kept them well in line.

Of course those in SHU and other places usually don't work, they're way too dangerous. But it's still an incredibly brutal life from gang warfare to being hit with pepper spray that's illegal to citizens in which prisoners are actually soaked in (and from time to time people killed by guards). And I've read about Sing Sing as well which portrayed a similar harsh life (at least around 1970) that no one would find cushy save maybe Russian criminals (and even then I heard of a town of Russians outraged and brought about reform when abuse about the same common in American prisons was revealed). More:
http://www.hrw.org/news/2004/05/13/prisoner-abuse-how-different-are-us-prisons

And just for the hell of it I looked up Rikers and came up quickly with this:
http://www.villagevoice.com/2012-05-09/news/rikers-violence-out-of-control/

posted February 15, 2013 08:43 AM            

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US attorney: 'Dirty cops' protected drug dealers

"When the cooperator put the word out on the street that he needed dirty cops to protect his drug deals, he got a lot of takers from police officers all across town," said U.S. Attorney Sally Yates.

"Remarkably, one of the police officers actually suggested that future drug deals be conducted in the parking lot of a local high school so they could exchange backpacks there, and that exchange of backpacks wouldn't be something that caused suspicion," Yates explained during a news conference Tuesday.

Yates said DeKalb County police Officers Dennis Duren and Dorian Williams, Forest Park police Sgts. Victor Middlebrook and Andrew Monroe, Atlanta police Officer Kelvin Allen , Stone Mountain police Officer Denoris Carter, MARTA police Officer Marquez Holmes, former DeKalb County Sheriff's Office jail Officers Monyette McLaurin and Chase Valentine and Federal Protection Services contract Officer Sharon Peters were arrested Tuesday.

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