posted November 26, 2013 03:37 PM            

as the worm turns..............

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empty barrels make the most noise,
juni

posted November 26, 2013 03:57 PM            

They sure do

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posted November 26, 2013 10:38 PM            

I'm prepared to repeat it as many times as necessary....until you finally get it.

"WE ARE THE ONES WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR"

posted November 27, 2013 12:01 PM            

Defines loser.

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posted November 27, 2013 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
Do you live on what you earn, Ami, or on funds that were "taken from someone else and redistributed to you"? Does jwhop use medicare? Collect SS?

Careful of those glass houses...

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If I could think of one person I interact with who cannot think clearly, it is you.

I am really not trying to be mean but I have never seen such convoluted thinking combined with arrogance.

To the stealth quoter--another morsel for you

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posted November 27, 2013 10:51 PM            

Excuse me specious one but I've paid into Medicare and Social Security all my working life. For those who have paid into those systems, this is not Socialism but it's rather the payout of premiums they paid for up front.

posted November 28, 2013 01:07 AM            

When you were 30,40,50 you paid into them, because you knew they would come back to you. The same is true of young people buying insurance. They may be healthy, but they probably have parents in their 50s or more...who may not be so healthy. Would you rather pay for minimal insurance to bring down your ageing parents' healthcare costs, or would you rather spend ten years paying for their full support and medical bills?

Because what may seem to be giving something for nothing really isn't is it? The "donation" from young folk will help you, and their parents (or grandparents whatever), cover their own needs when they are in frail health. And if you think the elders should have covered their own butts, under the old system very few could afford to.

I know umpteen old folk who have wasted away at exorbitant prices which ate up ALL their insurance (lifetime caps) their homes and savings, and then ate into their kids' lives too before they died of whatever illness..having everyone in the Pool means those lifetime caps can be eliminated and homes saved, not to mention the amount of money loving children WON'T have to spend tending their ageing loved ones. THAT is why it is worth young folk paying into the pot.

And if they break an arm in a car crash, they will be bloody glad they did for their immediate sake too; their $60/month will more than make up for the thousands a visit to the ER and cast will cost them, not to mention follow up and possible time off work.

So even if it seems a long way off, paying for insurance now means they will be able to collect when they do need it and there will be no caps leaving them dangling when they are 90 and don't die fast enough.

Please stop pretending that a) young people don't need healthcare and b) a country where everyone is ENTITLED to treatment whether they can pay or not should not EXPECT everyone to contribute to the cost of that ENTITLEMENT.

posted November 28, 2013 07:43 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
" Does jwhop use medicare? Collect SS."

Excuse me specious one but I've paid into Medicare and Social Security all my working life. For those who have paid into those systems, this is not Socialism but it's rather the payout of premiums they paid for up front.

Please pull your head out of where it doesn't belong.

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Geez Louise

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posted November 29, 2013 11:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
"Years ago, I tried to top everybody, but I don't anymore. I realized it was killing conversation. When you're always trying for a topper you aren't really listening. It ruins communication"
- (groucho) Marx

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posted November 30, 2013 05:54 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
I wasn't aware of a food stamp payroll deduction. Tell me when the Food Stamp President, O'Bomber instituted a payroll deduction for Food Stamps.

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posted November 30, 2013 08:44 AM            

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I love this quote.

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posted November 30, 2013 12:21 PM            

Food Stamps were not invented by Obama, folks. Just because there is not payroll deduction marked FOODSTAMP WITHOLDING does not mean we don't all pay into the funds for foodstamps along with other programs designed to keep even the poorest among us circulating money, which is what the Economy is, circulation of money.

Yes we all pay into all the programs. Latest figure I heard was about $11 per head per year it costs us to make sure we don't have to see people dying of starvation in the streets because they have a whopping $135 per person per month and a roof over their heads, every penny of which goes into the cash registers of either merchants or landlords or back into the funds to keep those programs going.

Highway robbery, eh? Missing your $11 per year that is being SUCKED out of you by the overweaning government to give to someone who - especially now - also paid into those funds before they needed to use them?

posted November 30, 2013 01:03 PM            

Trying to revise your story now are you?

There is a payroll deduction for disability insurance...paid for by employees.

There is NO payroll deduction for Food Stamps and there never was.

posted November 30, 2013 01:25 PM            

Most people on foodstamps WORK for starters. Many of them are vets and children. Lazy goodfornothings, huh?

I repeat the yearly cost per capita is about $11 to cover these programs and they come out of your taxes so yes, we ALL pay into them. Yes, a portion of the country is unemployed for long periods of time, but there are limits to how much LIFETIME COMPENSATION one can collect.

Every penny of aid goes directly back into the economy, not to some tax haven in the Cayman's.

posted November 30, 2013 04:52 PM            

Total bullshiit.

"The USDA also reports that 28 percent of adult participants in SNAP were employed."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/leonardburman/2012/02/04/note-to-newt-many-food-stamp-families-are-working/

posted November 30, 2013 05:19 PM            

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Labor Force Participation Among SNAP Recipients Is High

The overwhelming majority of SNAP recipients who can work do so. Among SNAP households with at least one working-age, non-disabled adult, more than half work while receiving SNAP — and more than 80 percent work in the year prior to or the year after receiving SNAP. The rates are even higher for families with children — more than 60 percent work while receiving SNAP, and almost 90 percent work in the prior or subsequent year. (See Figure 1.)[3]

The number of SNAP households that have earnings while participating in SNAP has been rising for more than a decade, and has more than tripled — from about 2 million in 2000 to about 6.4 million in 2011. (See Figure 2.) The increase was especially pronounced during the recent deep recession, suggesting that many people have turned to SNAP because of under-employment — for example, when one wage-earner in a two-parent family lost a job, when a worker’s hours were cut, or when a worker turned to a lower-paying job after being laid off.

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posted December 23, 2013 01:31 PM            

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posted December 24, 2013 09:22 AM            

“I’ve just flown in from California, where they’ve made homosexuality legal. I thought I’d get out before they make it compulsory.”
-- Bob Hope on the 1975 Consenting Adult Sex Bill

Excuse me but the USDA RUNS THE FOOD STAMP PROGRAM and their records show only 28% of adult Food Stamp recipients are working.

posted December 24, 2013 09:24 AM            

Bob Hope was a proud Member of the Tribe

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posted December 26, 2013 10:47 AM            

George Orwell

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