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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 40836 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 20, 2013 09:38 AM
Glenn Beck : “After what I have learned this week I’m a changed person.”Friday, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:07 PM EDT Just a few minutes ago our jib operator Justin came up to me. He said, ‘Glenn, out of all of the things you’ve covered in your life where does this fit in importance? And I said ‘Most people are going to think this is maybe 20 or 50.’ In the last 50 years this is we’ve had the Watts Riots, and the death of the Martin Luther King and the things that I have covered in the last 40 years, I would say this is top five. Maybe number 2. And possibly number one in importance. Number one, is clearly the World Trade Center bombing. I want you to listen to me carefully for the next 20 minutes.This is very, very important. What we do going forward from here will determine the fate of our nation. Make no mistake. This story is number 2 because of what I know. What we do will make this the most important story of our lifetime. What’s happening now is very important. What happens in the aftermath will make it the most important, because it will either save our country or we will be done. We’ve had a press all week that has been celebrating the idea that this might have been a Tea Party person that wanted to perpetrate this crime. Now never before in my history have in my history of broadcast, in my history as an American, have I ever heard the press gleefully wish that they want an American to be responsible for an American tragedy. I’ve never heard people want to believe the worst in people. It;s what makes us America. We trust each other. We like each other. We want to believe the best in each other. But our media wants to believe the worst of about 50% of this country. When I talk about progressives, I’m not talking about the average person. I’m talking about maybe 8% of our population that they truly understand what progressivism is. I believe the average Democrat, even the average progressive doesn’t really know what they’re doing. I mean they think they do. They’re not. They have not done the years of homework and study that I have on that movement. I still believe the best in our country. But hear me clearly – after what I have learned this week I’m a changed person. After what I have learned this week, I believe our country is over. America is dying and breathing her last gasp. If we do not resuscitate on this story, we close the lid and close the book on our country and begin to write a new book. Now that doesn’t mean that you’re not the author. That there’s not a constitutionalist that is the author of the new book. It just means what we have is over and a struggle begins for a new Republic. That sounds awfully dramatic. But when you have the press not only rooting for it to be a white American that blew up Americans, but then on top of it, in total denial that Islamic extremists even exist, and that caliphate is somebody that anybody wants. That Jihadists even exist. Think about the thing we were discussing passing this week. Gun control because we have to be able to protect. Because the government can protect you. We were talking about talking about making it more difficult to buy guns while somebody just blew the legs off American citizens. With what? Guns? No. With something that my grandmother used all summer in her kitchen. Advertisement At the same time we’re talking about comprehensive immigration reform on things that nobody has even read. Meanwhile who has been blowing the legs off of our citizens? People who are foreign nationals here on a Visa. Here under amnesty. Because our immigration, and amnesty situation is so screwed up, that these guys did they really escape persecution? We’re finding out now that mom is in jail because she was a thief. This summer she was stealing. We just heard the audio of the dad back in Russia. He sounds pretty much like an extremist. But that’s not the worst of it. I want you to listen carefully. Yesterday, the F.B.I. released the pictures of and video of two men they say were suspects in the Boston bombings. These are the one was killed last night, and the other hopefully being killed right now. They say they believe the two men carried and placed the two bombs that killed the three innocent Americans including an eight year old boy and injured more than 200 Americans. Absent from their announcement was any mention of the Saudi national. Now the documents were brought to our attention at TheBlaze, and those documents indicate that this guy is scheduled for deportation next Tuesday due to issues related to national security. The document goes on to say that the individual is linked to the Boston bombing. That’s what the federal document says. This is the same person that we were initially told was a person of interest. This was the Saudi national in the hospital. His apartment was in Revere, Massachusetts. It was raided. The items were removed. And then we were told he was just a possible witness. And then we were finally told by the authorities he had nothing to do with the attack in fact he wasn’t a witness to the crime. Why was he in the hospital? How did he get to the ground zero? What was he doing there? He wasn’t even a witness? Really? This guy who wasn’t a witness is suddenly being deported next Tuesday, whisked off our continent to go back to Saudi Arabia, and he wasn’t even a witness – yet the documents he’s being deported voluntarily on terror charges linked to the Boston bombing. I want you to hear me clearly. If you think everybody in the government is bad you’re wrong. The only reason TheBlaze knows this because we have several — I can’t count them on both hands – several sources who’re brave, valiant Patriotic Americans that work in all departments at all levels of this governmnent. Who have contacted TheBlaze one way or another, and said “help, help, help.” There are several dedicated Americans in the law enforcement community that decided they could not stand idly by, and let the truth be swept under the rug. That a deportation order was being issued. It was issued Tuesday 4:00 p.m. by an organization or a government entity that most people have never heard of called the National Targeting Center. It’s a little known federal antiterrorism division. After reporting this on TheBlaze.com yesterday, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement categorically denied, calling it grossly in error. ICE claimed there was a Saudi national in custody waiting deportation but it was completely unrelated to the Boston bombing. After that the story discrediting me and TheBlaze was carried by a number of national media outlets, and some of those national media outlets were given the story by “The Blaze” top executive to top executive. After a number of those media outlets discredited us or tried to with the ICE disclaimer, we received another call from yet another Patriotic citizen in our government. This one from a high ranking congressional aide who told us that the deportation order that we had just reported on had just been requested and delivered to his boss. He requested anonymity to protect those who had secretly ordered report, but read to us the eight page report that we reported yesterday and throughout the day. Director of the Department of Homeland Security, the head of the department that you created to keep Americans from having their legs blown off, Janet Napolitano yesterday was asked about the Saudi national and his pending deportation. She refused to answer. ICE angrily mocked our story calling it false. The F.B.I. has changed their story about the man every day since the bombing. Made no mention of him at yesterday’s news conference., even though there is still a standing order of deportation and on the documents it says linked to the Boston bombing. Now you ask yourself, what’s going on? Why did the President just happen to stop by when a Saudi official happened to be in an office? Anybody who has ever been been around Presidents, Prime ministers, kings, knows. I have done it myself. ‘I cannot meet with that person.’ ‘Glenn, you’re going to go into this office and you’re going to talk to him.’ ‘I don’t want to talk to him. Who the hell is he?’ ‘Go in and talk to him.’ Five minutes in, ‘Hey Bill’ ‘Oh Glenn’ ‘Oh Mr. President how are you?’ That’s the way it works. Why was the President meeting with somebody unscheduled earlier this week? A Saudi official. Who is this Saudi man who was in the hospital, given a new international cell phone and apologized to according to him in Saudi press? Who is he, I wonder? Why would anyone linked to the bombings be deported? If he’s involved wouldn’t he be prosecuted? If he’s a witness why wouldn’t you want him to testify? Why would you allow someone who was standing by the bomb be deported? Why would he leave? And why hasn’t anyone in the media taken an interest in finding out why? Why are they silent? “The Blaze” is interested. And TheBlaze will not comply. We will not sit down. We will not shut up. We will not be intimidated. We look hard into looking who he is. Who he’s connected to, and why he seems to be offered a ticket to freedom even though he’s been linked to bombing. Don’t believe me? Don’t believe me. Six Congressmen have verified. One of our brave sources asked me to do something very specific and when I was told to do it I said ‘That’s crazy talk. What does the hell does that mean?’ They told me what it meant. I can’t at this time tell you what it means. But I want to do it one more time. On Monday I reveal everything we know. So let me just say this to those at the highest echelons of government. No the tagging system. They know about events. Not files, events. Let me send this message very clear: We know who this Saudi national is. It is in your best interest of the integrity of the people of United States of America. It’s best coming from you, not from a news organization. It’s best coming from you. You have until Monday. We have information on who this man is. And listen to me carefully. In your little “event” world, we know he is a very bad, bad, bad man. I know that doesn’t make any sense to you right now. But on Monday it will. It makes sense to somebody in Washington. I don’t bluff. I make promises. The truth matters. I’ve had enough of what you’ve done to our country. I thought I had heard and seen it all. I thought I didn’t trust my government. Oh no, no, no, no. There is no depth that these people will not stoop to. They have until Monday and then TheBlaze will expose it. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 9999 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 11:29 AM
and this is not spider line?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 40836 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 20, 2013 12:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by katatonic: and this is not spider line?
This is current mainstream news, Ms K. You are gonna have to try harder to pull a rabbit out of someplace ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/biggrin.gif)
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 9999 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 12:41 PM
tell me, ami, why do you WANT obama to be a muslim terrorist? you are so worried that people might be able to believe an american can do nasty things, why would you WANT the govt to be out to torture and harm us all?glenn beck may be on mainstream radio but he is a conspiracy theorist. while he is moaning about the mainstream media (which he doesn't consider himself part of even if you do) wanting it to be a white american, he is pushing the "president is a monster" line that you have swallowed hook line and sinker. while the fact that an american may have done this is nasty, it is not that outrageous really is it? people all over the world do these kind of things to their own or against the govt or whatever rationalization their twisted minds come up with. but to suggest it is the president who wants us all locked up in fema camps and implanted with chips, THAT is a conspiracy theory. ie spider line material. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 9999 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 12:42 PM
it's not even much more intelligible than the post venusian moon put up earlier.i suppose for some it is more comforting to think that ONLY FOREIGNERS can hate, but it has been proven time and again that that is so much wishful thinking. now while i would not put it past the govt, or the fbi for sure, to stage incidents like this, it is no more likely than the other, that it actually was a white american, natural or naturalized. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 6452 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 12:49 PM
Ami, thank you for providing an article to aid in understanding your beliefs.kat, I don`t think this is an actual conspiracy theory based on the knowledge this IS an actual belief or mind set of many Americans. It is the other side of the coin so to speak. I read it and so many thoughts ran through my mind. They led me to try to try to think like a Beck follower and this is where they meandered to IF I was a Beck follower, I would address my truths he speaks on or else find a way to make it feasable. quote: What happens in the aftermath will make it the most important, because it will either save our country or we will be done.
Since I already believe the country is done because Obama is president, I have confidence Beck will clear his waffling up.
quote: They have not done the years of homework and study that I have on that movement.
That`s why I`m your champion and trust your informed and unbiased opinion. quote: But when you have the press not only rooting for it to be a white American that blew up Americans, but then on top of it, in total denial that Islamic extremists even exist, and that caliphate is somebody that anybody wants. That Jihadists even exist.
Bravo. That`s why those who have researched Jihadists , exposed them have and denounce them are blowing smoke or throw us a red herring. quote: We were talking about talking about making it more difficult to buy guns while somebody just blew the legs off American citizens. With what? Guns? No. With something that my grandmother used all summer in her kitchen.
again bravo Beck. Lets focus on pressure cookers not guns. Every Granny with one is a suspicious dumbed down, lowly informed American. quote: We’re finding out now that mom is in jail because she was a thief. This summer she was stealing. We just heard the audio of the dad back in Russia. He sounds pretty much like an extremist.
Oh yes Beck, every mother who ever stole has a baby to grow into a home grown terrorist. Fathers in foreign countries are always to be suspect... dirty birds they are. BUT, he speaks the gospel when he says his sons were framed. quote: Let me send this message very clear: We know who this Saudi national is. It is in your best interest of the integrity of the people of United States of America. It’s best coming from you, not from a news organization. It’s best coming from you. You have until Monday. We have information on who this man is. And listen to me carefully. In your little “event” world, we know he is a very bad, bad, bad man. I know that doesn’t make any sense to you right now. But on Monday it will.It makes sense to somebody in Washington. I don’t bluff. I make promises. The truth matters. I’ve had enough of what you’ve done to our country. I thought I had heard and seen it all. I thought I didn’t trust my government. Oh no, no, no, no. There is no depth that these people will not stoop to. They have until Monday and then TheBlaze will expose it.
Oh dear this makes my head hurt. I will simply have to ponder what happens when Monday comes and goes without a Blaze expose.... What was that doomsday fellers name that kept jacking the end times date? He had some good facts on why it never happened.------------------ We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 40836 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 20, 2013 01:04 PM
Juni People like you won't face evil because you want to live in a small box. Hence, you will deny things that exist outside your small window. It is a darn shame that you are not alone. If terrible things happen, it is because of people LIKE you. I did not say you, in particular but a mindset who won't look to the core of things and actually face them. That takes looking into the darkness of human nature, your own first and others later. You refuse to do this, in my opinion from dealing with you.Remember my quote. No atrocity such as the Holocaust or any other could have happened if ordinary citizens stood up. Of course, if guns are taken, there is little standing up but prior to that, there is. Blessings ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/rainbow.gif) ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 9999 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 01:06 PM
If you wish to see the truth then hold no opinions for or against anything. To set up what you like against what you dislike is the disease of the mind. When the deep meaning of things is not understood, the mind’s essential peace is disturbed to no avail. Seng-T'san IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 9999 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 01:07 PM
a widely held conspiracy theory is still a conspiracy theory. this is what fox has been selling for years now. limbaugh's theory is all about the left...and becks is even further out there with the preppers and secessionists.IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 9347 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 01:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by katatonic: [b]If you wish to see the truth then hold no opinions for or against anything. To set up what you like against what you dislike is the disease of the mind. When the deep meaning of things is not understood, the mind’s essential peace is disturbed to no avail. Seng-T'san[/B]
Great quote kat. ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/thumbsup.gif) IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 9999 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 01:17 PM
i have no problem seeing this as a false flag. that is why it is so important that this kid lives to see a trial. so we can all judge for ourselves from actual evidence whether a) he is guilty, or like lee harvey oswald, a "patsy"... b) if he is the actual perp he can give insight into the mindset of such a person.but those who wish it to be a SAUDI national, will see nothing else. terrorists are more often HOMEGROWN than foreign, historically speaking. glenn beck has been PUSHING the idea of obama as a) a foreigner and b) a terrorist in disguise for years. yet those who try to keep an open mind are called idiots and traitors, or just dodos who won't "stand up" ami, you don't stand up when the becks and wests of the world go after the socialists, the trade unions, and the immigrants...so who is guilty as per your quote from neimoller? IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 9999 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 01:19 PM
TRUE courage involves looking at the facts, not the third party analysis of those you love to be scared by.IP: Logged |
doommlord Moderator Posts: 2113 From: israel Registered: Dec 2011
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posted April 20, 2013 01:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne:Remember my quote. No atrocity such as the Holocaust or any other could have happened if ordinary citizens stood up. Of course, if guns are taken, there is little standing up but prior to that, there is. Blessings ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/rainbow.gif) [/B]
No atrocity such as the holocaust would have happened if there werent any weak people to sow fear,hatred and ignorance in the population. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 40836 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 20, 2013 01:23 PM
ami, you don't stand up when the becks and wests of the world go after the socialists, the trade unions, and the immigrants...so who is guilty as per your quote from neimoller?I want freedom as it was defined in our country before Obama foisted himself on half the country who despises him. I want each person to be free of intrusive government. I want each person to bear arms, if he wants. I want what the founding fathers wanted. I don't want socialism and I don't want our borders crossed by people who want to hurt us. I am the kind of American who wants freedom for all, first and foremost. I want to take care of disabled people who can't take care of themselves but not serial families on welfare as a form of lifestyle. Now, I am the new minority, thanks to the clown president, Obama. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 9999 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 01:25 PM
no you are on a vendetta based on bigotry. too bad you can't see it.blame the outsiders (jews and gypsies) blame the "socialists"(even though they are NOT lol) blame the unions just don't blame a white american for anything. got it. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 6452 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 01:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Juni People like you won't face evil because you want to live in a small box. Hence, you will deny things that exist outside your small window. It is a darn shame that you are not alone. If terrible things happen, it is because of people LIKE you. I did not say you, in particular but a mindset who won't look to the core of things and actually face them. That takes looking into the darkness of human nature, your own first and others later. You refuse to do this, in my opinion from dealing with you.Remember my quote. No atrocity such as the Holocaust or any other could have happened if [b]ordinary citizens stood up. Of course, if guns are taken, there is little standing up but prior to that, there is. Blessings ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/rainbow.gif) [/B]
Ami , evil exists all right. We agree there. I read or hear it every day. The fear mongering and rumors that exist to keep some good folks living like mushrooms : living in total darkness feeding off poop. That is evil as it sucks the soul dry of compassion, love and a natural joy in living. ------------------ We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 6452 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 01:31 PM
kat, if it is a conspiracy theory, you will have to appeal to Randall. I can`t moderate Ami`s threads.------------------ We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 9999 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 01:31 PM
half the country despised lincoln so much they tried to secede, remember? perhaps we should let them do so now, this union has been a failed experiment.half the country despised kennedy because he was catholic and neither liberal nor conservative! half the country despised bill clinton because he tried healthcare reform and had an overcharged sex drive... and half the country despise glenn beck because he is a shameless attention-seeker for money. foisted himself on the country? he was elected twice, that really rankles doesn't it? whoever pulled strings behind the scenes the people voted for him, and his detractors resorted to lunacy in an attempt to paint him as a demon. i truly feel sorry for you ami. you hold onto your imagined victim status with such fervor. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 9999 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 01:42 PM
it is also truly ironic that beck, who is one of those who touts the influence of bill ayers on obama, should deplore those who think this might be a white american...what is bill ayers then? a black martian? saul alinsky, bernadine dorn, they are ALL white americans...no prob blaming them for everything, only when someone says HIS line of thinking might be seditionist.there is a long line of white american terrorism in america IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 27123 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 02:02 PM
Beck is mainstream media. Monday we will see details. If anything is conspiratorial here, it's the idea that these two terrorists were framed. Innocent people don't throw hand grenades at the police. Or strap bombs to themselves. Or even have items like that.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 40836 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 20, 2013 02:02 PM
Ami , evil exists all right. We agree there. I read or hear it every day. The fear mongering and rumors that exist to keep some good folks living like mushrooms : living in total darkness feeding off poop.That is evil as it sucks the soul dry of compassion, love and a natural joy in living. I see you very differently than you see yourself. I am sure you are the same way with me. ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/peace.gif) ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 9999 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 02:15 PM
lol so is jesse ventura mainstream, a mainstream conspiracy theorist,beck and limbaugh both exclude themselves from the group "mainstream journalists" yet they are as mainstream as it gets, apart from their conspiracy theory themes. both paint the government as a conspiracy and obama as the chief impostor. if that is not conspiracy theory what is?? they have been pushing this for years and obama is the prize because he can be painted as foreign and therefore an acceptable target for hatred.
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 6452 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 02:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Beck is mainstream media. Monday we will see details. If anything is conspiratorial here, it's the idea that these two terrorists were framed. Innocent people don't throw hand grenades at the police. Or strap bombs to themselves. Or even have items like that.
I`m on the same page re the hand grenades and bombs strapped on him. The 19 yr old did not have one tho. The oldest was already in the FBI`s sight so we will , hopefully, hear why and how it all went down, who did what and so forth. I sincerely don`t expect to hear some earth shattering conspiracy of the Saudi being exposed nor a goverment cover up. That would take too many in the know and high places to keep quiet. Even other countries being in collusion. I do expect to hear more conspiracy Monday tho. That`s the nature of the beast. And a shame as it keeps any facts presented preverted,pooh poohed and so goes the arguments. ------------------ We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 27123 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 20, 2013 04:16 PM
Innocent people react like the first person of interest did (the 17-year-old). Innocent people don't kill a cop and run. This was a multi-jurisdictional effort. It would be virtually impossible to manufacture a fraud of this proportion, especially since most of the 9,000+ officers were state and local (neighboring departments). There were SWAT teams from several states who arrived to help. IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 1523 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted April 20, 2013 04:59 PM
^ 100% agree.Though I will add the caveat that someone may react like that who knew he was in the shite after being tricked into an action. (The younger brother.) Though only time may tell - maybe he's a loon. ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged | |