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Ami Anne
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posted May 30, 2013 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/05/18072-over-10000000-americans-on-disability-under-king-obama/

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posted May 30, 2013 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anascorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Besides this biased opinion, you would be suprised how many people have terminal illnesses that cannot work. Have you ever known anyone with heart troubles, diabetes, cancer? Have you ever watched them slowly lose their health, all the while medical bills add up. Most of these people have worked all their life and paid into these funds. Not everyone is scum or expecting handouts because Obama is President. Times are tough for some people. Single mothers/fathers who work for a temp agency making peanuts no full time work so no health care... unable to afford.please try to not be so biased....u may be blessed to not have to ask for those handouts

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posted May 30, 2013 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anascorp:
Besides this biased opinion, you would be suprised how many people have terminal illnesses that cannot work. Have you ever known anyone with heart troubles, diabetes, cancer? Have you ever watched them slowly lose their health, all the while medical bills add up. Most of these people have worked all their life and paid into these funds. Not everyone is scum or expecting handouts because Obama is President. Times are tough for some people. Single mothers/fathers who work for a temp agency making peanuts no full time work so no health care... unable to afford.please try to not be so biased....u may be blessed to not have to ask for those handouts


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posted May 30, 2013 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You cannot blame this on this Administration:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/04/08/how-americans-game-the-200-billion-a-year-disability-industrial-complex/

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posted May 30, 2013 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, your numbers are off by about 1.5 million:
http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/01/the-simple-boring-reason-why-disability-insurance-has-exploded/

"Over 8 million" is still a lot (and probably much too much), but it doesn't have quite the same ring as "over 10 million".

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posted May 30, 2013 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Though, I stand corrected:
http://www.whatdisability.com/social-security/198-number-of-americans-on-disability-hits-close-to-108-million

I wonder why the disparity.

(Partial vs Full, etc?)

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posted May 30, 2013 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NPR (gasp! The liberal media!) did a piece on it awhile back: http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/
That quoted over 14 million.

I'll have to look at the numbers later.

But, still - this seems like it isn't on this Admin, but the Congress.

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posted May 30, 2013 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, had a chance to read during lunch.

The 14,000 figure includes children, I'm betting the 10,000+ figure includes partially disabled.

FWIW, the NPR article's really worth the read.

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posted May 30, 2013 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anascorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

No one begrudges those people help, Friend




I will apologize for comment then for you being biased. I did not see any comments from you saying otherwise....anywho my father is very sick only getting partial ssi and is expected to live off of that he has been deemed to not work or over extend his heart. Docs found thyroid cancer...checked his heart to prepare for surgery...found main artery almost completely blocked..emergency heart surgery...almost lost him. He cannot get thyroid surgery because his heart is to weak. And in February I lost my beloved step father due to cancer he died in less than 6 months from diagnosis. It was so hard for both of these hard working men to get the ssi....so many that need it have to wait or do not get appproved.

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posted May 30, 2013 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anascorp:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
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No one begrudges those people help, Friend




I will apologize for comment then for you being biased. I did not see any comments from you saying otherwise....anywho my father is very sick only getting partial ssi and is expected to live off of that he has been deemed to not work or over extend his heart. Docs found thyroid cancer...checked his heart to prepare for surgery...found main artery almost completely blocked..emergency heart surgery...almost lost him. He cannot get thyroid surgery because his heart is to weak. And in February I lost my beloved step father due to cancer he died in less than 6 months from diagnosis. It was so hard for both of these hard working men to get the ssi....so many that need it have to wait or do not get appproved. [/B][/QUOTE]


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posted May 30, 2013 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/05/18072-over-10000000-americans-on-disa bility-under-king-obama/


I hate posting here at GU but this is a clear goad in my opinion and directed at me and all other poor and disabled folks.
First off the fact that the article calls President Obama "KING", means it is not real news, but IS hate and discrimination fake news meant to make people despise poor and disabled suffering folks.
I also cannot help wonder due to your hatred of me that this may well be a thinly veiled new attack on me.
Yeah I am feeling very touchy due to the latest fights with you.
I feel very targeted by you.
The timing of this thread is suspicious as it comes right after DD's closing.
And you are again being very unkind.
I and other disabled poor folks are not worthless moochers as your thumbsdown indicates, that you see poor folks and disabled folks as worthless low lifes to be degraded by you;
otherwise why post such a thing and thumbsdown it?
And why now as we are trying to bring peace back to LL?
Your compassion is dead it seems.
So poor and disabled are your new targets?
to you.

YOU OWE POOR AND DISABLED FOLKS AN APOLOGY.

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Lexxigramer
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posted May 30, 2013 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would be dead decades ago without help from Disability programs and other help.
I hate it but that is how poor and disabled folks must survive because otherwise they have no choice but to die.
Walk in my shoes (when you are not bed bound and can walk)...and the shoes of others who are poor and disabled, instead of looking down on us like we are all dirt you feel free to spit on and hate from your high and mighty place of wealth and health.
You should be counting your blessings instead of preaching trash about poor and disabled.
You obviously have no idea what dumpster diving for food is like or suffering for lack of medical care etc.
Rant over before I get even more upset.

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Ami Anne
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posted May 30, 2013 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lexx
If a person needs true disability, that is what it is there for.

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posted May 30, 2013 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lexx
If a person needs true disability, that is what it is there for.



So why post insulting people on it? Most do need it. It is very difficult for most folks to get help; many just die waiting.
Or are too ill to apply and just die.
It is not a nice way to live, with or without the needed help.

And what do you see as being "true disability"?
And who is it you feel is not deserving and needing to be on disability and or medical and financial aid?
Why did you start this thread?

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posted May 30, 2013 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lexx
MY heart goes out to you with your situation. I want to leave it at that. Blessing to you.


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posted May 30, 2013 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fine, sidestep and do not actually reply.
But have respect and please do not fake bless me;
because remember,
I am already on your damnation list,
which totally negates the sincerity of your blessings and compassion.
At least be honest and stop the fake nice nice to cover your ass.
No one is buying it who has been damned by you.
You cannot be both condemner and caring in the same breath.
Oh well, why bother to say anything to you?

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posted May 31, 2013 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sister is on disability, because she deals with an anxiety disorder, and used to be agoraphobic.

I *should* be on disability - it would give me maybe $500, which would cover food for me and my dogs right now (not sure about supplements, and would do nothing re: rent and other bills). I'm not on disability, because I was too proud, thinking I would be working long before now, and I didn't want to see a psychiatrist who would force me onto a medication (that was one thing my sister dealt with, years ago). I also have issues, and didn't want to have the physical.

If I had that money, though, it would give me a much-needed boost and some independence. I might try for it now, because I NEED it. I have NO income, and I'm a drain on my parents, who can't really afford to feed me and do anything beyond work and eat themselves (dad works, mum no longer does). They should be retired by now, and COULD retire if it weren't for me, and my sister also needing food when she's here (which is most of the time).

I hate it when people just decide that everyone on disability and/or welfare, is a leech, a liar, a no-good ******* looking to exploit honest people.

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posted May 31, 2013 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
teasel
I wish you the best of good luck and love.{{{hugs}}}
Please apply asap because it can take a year for approval.
Talk to whoever handles disability and welfare and section eight and so forth in your area.
I must warn you though,
that living on disability is very hard, basically like you said; some $500 a month which covers hardly anything. But check into things because you can get additional non monetary help,
medical, section 8, food card, and so forth.
PS.
Depending on your situation you might still be eligible even though you live with your family.
Ask what the criteria is.
I do not know offhand but my ex brother in law got it years ago and lives with his mother and brother etc.

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posted May 31, 2013 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some of the comments in that article were poignant. The demonic author Warren has the nerve to label the sufferers of acute degenerative disease as being on welfare, whereas those who are taking the assistance are feeling guilty even though it is their right. In Vedic Scriptures, it is said just one curse from a disabled person was enough to destroy a lineage of Royals who hurt that person. In Nazi Germany, the author would have supported those who killed disabled people so that only the strong Germans served the Fuhrer.

Obama has several failures, especially the drone program. But this one stellar success of being fair to disabled and sick citizens is more than enough for him to be a winner, and will guarantee a victory to the Democrats again in 2016.

And statistically, 10/300 millions is quite accurate considering the very large number of elderly people and close to a million War Veterans in America.

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posted May 31, 2013 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Assistance was made for people who had real disabilities of various natures. Then, Obama came along and grew the program to a behemoth magnitude but it was not because he "cared". It is because he wants to control as much o the population as he can for votes. That is what it behind this.Soon, all the people on assistance will be forced to have the chip, too, but that is an aside

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posted May 31, 2013 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had previously asked that religious content be left out of GU and So far so good

I`m also asking now, that with DD down, no hard feelings from the forum be carried into posts here. Politics is an opinionated arena anyhow and hard feelings don`t mix.

I`m not requesting anyone have a change of heart, rather to leave it at the door please . Thanks !!

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posted May 31, 2013 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will try my best, Juni dear. Sometimes small things overlap but I will keep it in mind. Onward and Upward

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posted May 31, 2013 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is what I mean http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/05/31/fla-illegal-on-welfare-for-20-years-shows-others-how-to-milk-system-73531

Fla. illegal on welfare for 20 years shows others how to milk system

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posted May 31, 2013 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This is what I mean http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/05/31/fla-illegal-on-welfare- for-20-years-shows-others-how-to-milk-system-73531

Fla. illegal on welfare for 20 years shows others how to milk system


People always find ways to milk the system and if it is hard on one area they will find another...

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posted May 31, 2013 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I will try my best, Juni dear. Sometimes [b]small things overlap but I will keep it in mind. Onward and Upward

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Thats the problem that your small things closed a foruma lot of people loved.

So please do keep that always in mind when you "leak" contents from forums who are not only different in subject but different in behaviour too.

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