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Randall
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posted November 09, 2013 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's hope they pick a good one this time.

I like Christie a lot! If he runs and gets nominated, I think he can take it.

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posted November 09, 2013 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like Christi too but he is weak in areas of importance. Foreign affairs for instance.

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posted November 10, 2013 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If there are no photo IDs in states, those states will have the elections stolen.

I saw this with my own two eyes, as I have said before.
You could say you were part of a community and have a "community card" and vote.

There was no pic or anything needed.

NOBama did this in key states. He stole the last election imo

As long as there are no photo IDs, the elections will be stolen.

We are the same as those countries with fake elections imo


People just don't realize it yet( like they don't realize many things)

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posted November 10, 2013 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^
Myth

There is no evidence that voter fraud is a problem. There is however plenty of evidence for vote rigging and electronic vote counting fraud.

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posted November 10, 2013 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Node:
^
Myth

There is no evidence that voter fraud is a problem. There is however plenty of evidence for vote rigging and electronic vote counting fraud.



Wake up and smell the coffee, Node-y


cc--you know the score


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posted November 10, 2013 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Node:
^
Myth

There is no evidence that voter fraud is a problem. There is however plenty of evidence for vote rigging and electronic vote counting fraud.


The nuance dance; I like it

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posted November 10, 2013 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"There is no evidence that voter fraud is a problem"..Node

BS, the ass, Al Franken was elected to the US Senate on votes in some precincts which exceeded the entire registered vote for that precinct. The only possible way the actual vote tally can exceed the number of registered voters is by massive voter fraud.

Btw, when the overall vote is about 65% or less of eligible registered voters and the actual vote tally in a precinct or precincts runs 110-115% of total registered voters, that's massive voter fraud. Put them in prison!

No wonder demoscats, usual suspects and Accidental Americans don't want photo voter identification. The dead couldn't vote. Illegal aliens couldn't vote nor could their pond scum sucking leftist activists vote multiple times in the same election.

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posted November 10, 2013 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"There is no evidence that voter fraud is a problem"..Node

BS, the ass, Al Franken was elected to the US Senate on votes in some precincts which exceeded the entire registered vote for that precinct. The only possible way the actual vote tally can exceed the number of registered voters is by massive voter fraud.

Btw, when the overall vote is about 65% or less of eligible registered voters and the actual vote tally in a precinct or precincts runs 110-115% of total registered voters, that's massive voter fraud. Put them in prison!

No wonder demoscats, usual suspects and Accidental Americans don't want photo voter identification. The dead couldn't vote. Illegal aliens couldn't vote nor could their pond scum sucking leftist activists vote multiple times in the same election.


Thank God for you Jwhop. I don't know how you deal with these people

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posted November 10, 2013 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The lines of people doing fraud in Ohio was so flagrant that it would make you sick. It is as flagrant as NOBama letting the people die in Benghazi

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posted November 10, 2013 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loving the factual emphasis here. Should be easy to produce some numbers to back up those claims, can we see too?

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posted November 11, 2013 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Voter fraud! 129% of registered Boston vote on election day?
http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2012/11/09/voter-fraud-129-of-registered-boston-vote-on-election-day/

160 Counties Have More Registered To Vote Than Eligible Voters
Written By : William Teach
August 6, 2012

http://www.rightwingnews.com/election-2012/160-counties-have-more-registered-to-vote-than-eligible-voters/

Voter ID and 100+ Percent Turnout in Philly
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/07/10/philly-voter-fraud-allegations-race-voter-id/

TRR: Florida Vote Twist: More Ballots Than Voters
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/10/florida-vote-twist-more-ballots-voters/

More Votes than Voters in Ohio:
Absentee Vote Inflated, Certified Vote in Doubt
Dr. Werner Lange
December 12, 2004

http://www.democrats.com/ohio-absentee

Lucie County Fl... casts more votes than registered voters and the RNC/GOP does nothing?
http://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topics/lucie-county-fl-casts-more-votes-than-registered-voters-and-the

Is it true that several precincts in Minn. have turned in more votes than there are registered voters?

Yep.
That's not even unusual in Democrat strongholds.
It's pretty common in inner city precincts for the polling apparatus to be spirited away from the polling place to show-up later with more votes on it than their are human beings living in the precinct. - not just more than the registered voters; more than the whole population.
Several 1000-ish-voter Philadelphia precincts each voted around 200 Bush / 3000 Gore in 2000 then repeated that feat for Kerry in 2004. It's the Democrat way. Always has been. BETWEEN election cycles they actually say so themselves. Their proud of it.

Source:
I'm a Judge of Elections.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090106050743AAkTPrU

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posted November 11, 2013 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those stats should even make Acoustic stop talking for a moment

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posted November 11, 2013 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Loving the factual emphasis here. Should be easy to produce some numbers to back up those claims, can we see too?"..Catalina/katatonic

How about that Ami? Catalina/katatonic asks for proof of voter fraud. When the proof is given, Catalina/katatonic goes SILENT!

Of course, that proof wasn't difficult to find...for those who aren't so lazy they wouldn't devote 1 minute for a basic internet search.

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posted November 12, 2013 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
"Loving the factual emphasis here. [b]Should be easy to produce some numbers to back up those claims, can we see too?"..Catalina/katatonic

How about that Ami? Catalina/katatonic asks for proof of voter fraud. When the proof is given, Catalina/katatonic goes SILENT!

Of course, that proof wasn't difficult to find...for those who aren't so lazy they wouldn't devote 1 minute for a basic internet search. [/B]


Jwhop

We would not believe these people if we did not see them with our own two eyes.

That is one reason GU is so valuable.

These people are really out there

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posted November 12, 2013 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, sorry, jwhop, didn't I answer fast enough for you? I didn't know that was up to you?

So what do we have here...a dem entry talking about the excess Absentee votes in Ohio in 2004...which verification was blocked by the bush/cheney people...some "activist" bloggers making accusations with no back up, and a chat thread on yahoo where half the comments point out lack of verifiable figures...

So damning...

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posted November 12, 2013 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Naturally, I went to Jwhop's democratic source first. This was for voting in 2004. That means it was an election Bush was to have won.

Let's find some more up-to-date information, shall we?

    May 23, 2013 3:19pm
    In what was one of the 2012 election cycle’s most important battleground states, “voter fraud does exist,” Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted acknowledged in a report on Thursday. “But it is not an epidemic.”

    Husted, a Republican and the state’s chief elections official, said at a news conference and in an accompanying report that based on a survey of all of Ohio’s 88 counties conducted in the wake of last November’s election, 625 possible voting irregularities were reported across the state and 135 of them have been sent to law enforcement for further investigation. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/ohio-voter-fraud-does-exist-but-not-an-epidemic/

This is precisely what a reasonable person would and should expect.

I love the comment from "Rightwinger" on Jwhop's Boston post:

    The # of cards cast is highly suspicous, but when you look over at the next column, for example Ward 1, Precinct 1, it shows only 855 counted votes against 1235 registered voters. The total votes for Obummer, Romney, etc = 855. If you look at results for the other Wards, you won't find any column of counted votes that exceeds the amount of registered voters. Based on that and the percentages, I would say its safe to say that no voter fraud took place in Boston, or Massachusettes for that matter as it was a safe bet it was voting socialist. http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2012/11/09/voter-fraud-129-of-registered-boston-vote-on-election-day/

Googling voter fraud in Massachusetts brings up a charge against Mitt Romney as one of the top results: http://www.businessinsider.com/did-mitt-romney-commit-voter-fraud-in-massachusetts-in-2010-2012-4

This Democrat is also in trouble for committing voter fraud there, though it says nothing of the Presidential election: http://www.wcvb.com/news/politics/Massachusetts-state-Rep-Stephen-Smith-admits-to-voter-fraud/-/9848766/17855574/-/nytt37/-/index.html
This link confirms that it wasn't a Presidential election year: http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2012/12/20/mass-lawmaker-will-plead-guilty-voter-fraud/g9cBs3OJdeGsaSa9EmUiRI/story.html

Jwhop's rightwingnews.com article doesn't cite any factual finding. It does cite the supposed "nonpartisan" group that sent notices to 160 counties, but a cursory look at their website reveals there's nothing "nonpartisan" about it. The big headline when you go there is: Rx for Fraud: How Obamacare will corrupt America's voter rolls. Next article is about how they were one of the organizations targeted by the IRS for their request for tax-exempt status. Then, they finally have a truly nonpartisan article about ID registration since Texas requires ID. But then it's straight back to partisanship: The DOJ assault on voters' rights in Texas, followed by the 2012 Election Suppression Myth. If there were any doubt that this is a partisan organization, this article should quell such notions: http://host.madison.com/news/local/writers/steven_elbow/fact-checking-ron-johnson-victim-catherine-engelbrecht-s-osha-claims/article_3d237f86-9893-5b7b-be0b-55fb66dc0ce4.html

I think we require a little more integrity than this shows.

Jwhop's 100+ Percent Turnout in Philly has been fact-checked. It's the top two listings when you google "voter fraud Philadelphia."

    Some Philadelphia Districts Don’t Like Romney

    All told, this email purporting to show “astounding” evidence of “voter fraud” contains just a scant sliver of truth. The only correct claim is that some districts in Philadelphia recorded 100 percent of their votes for Obama — a stat that isn’t “a mathematical and statistical impossibility,” as the email claims, and isn’t all that surprising once the full context is known.

    Claim: In 59 voting districts in the Philadelphia region, Obama received 100% of the votes with not even a single vote recorded for Romney. (A mathematical and statistical impossibility).

    It’s not mathematically impossible. The 59 districts are in areas of the city that are mainly African American, as the Philadelphia Inquirer reported. And Obama received 93 percent of the black vote nationwide.

    In 2008, Obama received 100 percent of the vote in 57 districts in Philadelphia. So it was not that unusual that something similar happened this time around. In fact, Inquirer reporters had a tough time tracking down any registered Republicans in these areas.

    To be clear, these districts make up a small subset of all of Philadelphia. The 59 that went 100 percent for Obama in 2012 constitute 19,605 votes, just 3 percent of the total votes cast in the city.

    – Lori Robertson, with Jesse DuBois http://www.factcheck.org/2013/01/voting-conspiracies/

Snopes' fact check is even longer and more detailed: http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/2012fraud.asp

Now we're at Jwhop's FLORIDA article. We're hoping for a win for the home state.

Allen West's 2012 election was thoroughly scrutinized after the fact, and his competitor was still affirmed the winner. http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/recount-resumes-as-noon-deadline-looms/nS9Dh/
West's outspending his competitor 4-to-1 couldn't buy him this election even in Florida.

Complaint about Lucie County, which is also part of this Allen West debacle, show another twice fact-checked result. Go ahead, and put "voter fraud Lucie County" into Google. You'll get the same factcheck and Snopes articles I posted above.

That brings us to Al Franken's contest.
Franken-Coleman Senate Recount: Flap over felon votes shows GOP playing fast and loose with facts (It's pink. You can click it, JWhop.)
Right Wing Howls: Felons Put Franken Over The Top! (Nope)

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There is no evidence that voter fraud is a problem.


Right again.

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posted November 12, 2013 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like Cruz and Palin. Man, that would get me energized.

I would like Dr Carson with any of the above.

There are great people out there who have been really persecuted by NObama but keep on going.


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posted November 17, 2013 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The GOP contenders are super strong for the next election.

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