posted January 18, 2014 01:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

This is the last thing I will say, Shura. I see hearts. I don't see the outside.

I don't remember if you are gay or if you are any of the races.

I want to touch your heart with love. That is my reason for being on earth.

I do have personal trouble with people who hate Jews/Israel as I said. I gave my reasons.

Anyway, take care, Shura. Let's move on, please

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posted January 18, 2014 01:14 PM            

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Originally posted by shura:

Cat, as far as I can tell, has the honor of claiming all of the above sins, plus the added bonus of being a red b@stard commie.

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seriously almost made me spit out my drink!

posted January 18, 2014 01:18 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:

As Mods, our hands are tied and we only can remember, it`s the nature of the disease.

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This disease NEEDS TO GO.

As Mods we are supposed to protect members from posters who are harassing them. But in this case, a mod (Juni) can't protect herself from another mod who is harassing her. And no other mod can fix the issue either. The fact that this abuse is allowed/overlooked poisons the entire forum.

Just because you are a saint about it, Juni, that doesn't negate the overall creepiness.

posted January 18, 2014 01:23 PM            

All have been passively aggressively tormented long enough to deserve their say here then we can turn the page.

posted January 18, 2014 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:

All have been passively aggressively tormented long enough to deserve their say here then we can turn the page.

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posted January 18, 2014 01:35 PM            

I know I am not liked by everyone, nor do I like everyone.

Lets move on.

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posted January 18, 2014 01:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
It's not about liking or disliking, it's about you digging into people repeatedly [b]for no reason and never being held accountable for it.[/B]

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Precisely. I have done everything possable to prevent this forum blowing up like Divine Diversity did but sometimes one just has to let it flow.

There is no victim in this, just cause and effect .

posted January 18, 2014 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

As Mods we are supposed to protect members from posters who are harassing them. But in this case, a mod (Juni) can't protect herself from another mod who is harassing her. And no other mod can fix the issue either. The fact that this abuse is allowed/overlooked poisons the entire forum.

Just because you are a saint about it, Juni, that doesn't negate the overall creepiness.

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Sorry Faith, I missed this.

St juni but doesn`t one need to be a Catholic first?

Thanks to an excellent mentor some years ago, I have accumulated learned patience . But like the Catholic Pope, some actions and behaviors just p*ss the Pope off as well as me.

I don`t know the answer but you are right, it is our responsibility to intervene in harrassment of members. But, how does one intervene when it is self being harrassed or another Mod ? The $1O,OOO question here.
I have worked through and overlooked much but this last mess on the face of this forum and their contents is a line to draw.

We just plug on and do what we are trusted to do, uphold Lindaland and Mod when and where we are allowed to.

I started by staying out of SPITR, unfair but a token of peace.

Maybe by some Grace, this forum can be about adults interacting and not attacking people but rather ideas with a modicum common sense.

Sorry , I`m rambling now.

posted January 18, 2014 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Sorry Faith, I missed this.

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No, I edited my post after you saw it the first time.

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Originally posted by juniperb:
I don`t know the answer but you are right, it is our responsibility to intervene in harrassment of members. But, how does one intervene when it is self being harrassed or another Mod ? The $1O,OOO question here.

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I can't help but suspect that Ami prefers to meddle with other mods on purpose. In which case, we collectively have a grievance. But whenever a thread aims to build a consensus amongst the mods that this is indeed the case, it gets locked before the proof becomes definitive.

The standard procedure of locking threads that become volatile has precluded communication where it's been needed, in this case.

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Originally posted by juniperb:
I have worked through and overlooked much but this last mess on the face of this forum and their contents is a line to draw.

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Agreed!

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Maybe by some Grace, this forum can be about adults interacting and not attacking people but rather ideas with a modicum common sense.

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This forum needs an overhaul, it has a bad reputation as being the repository of low vibration energies on the forum, despite your best efforts.

Then one looks at the whole forum and says, "Why does a place like this reserve a special spot for unbridled antagonism?" It is, as I said, creepy.

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Sorry , I`m rambling now.

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Really? I thought your were just talking sense.

Sorry for being repetitive, I will let it rest for now. Have a nice weekend!

posted January 18, 2014 04:17 PM            

He was in his early 50's, gorgeous, a surgeon, sweet as anything.

I wrote about him in Astro 2.

Let's just move on. Everyone had their say about who they don't like.

You don't have to like everyone to be in a community with them.

I know many of you don't like me. I am cool with that. I don't like everyone, either.

Let's move on.

Take care

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posted January 18, 2014 04:20 PM            

I believe everyone should have his say. That makes for a healthy community.

Now, lets talk about Free Speech in this US. I think we are losing it and that is important!

Duck Dynasty is a REFLECTION of the lack of free speech. Some people can't say what they want and that should be a concern for everyone.

This should never be accepted. That is why this thread is important to me and should be important to you, too

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posted January 18, 2014 05:28 PM            

NOBama has done slippery things to take away free speech. The general public does not see them because they are not reported by the Main stream media.

There are many subtle things that take away free speech.

There should not be hate crimes, per se. That is reading minds.

If a person is murdered, color of either party should not matter.

This is a slippery slope to the thought police.

If I murder any color person, my crime should be murder.

If someone tries to figure out if it was a racial murder, that is a thought police action.

I will come back and give you more examples, Pixie.

Thanks for getting back to the subject!
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posted January 18, 2014 05:33 PM            

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No, free speech means you can say what you want.

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So you believe there should be freedom from consequences? How exactly does that work? And if A&E ran him but no one watched because they were offended then should advertisers be forced to buy ads anyway? Should people known to have watched it before be made to continue watching to protect free speech?

What about my hypothetical sitch...should the government tell me I had to hire someone who had offended the people I wanted to do business with, or prohibited the people from boycotting my services? What should the penalties be if I fired her anyway or if people changed their mind about using me because of what she said publicly?

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posted January 18, 2014 05:40 PM            

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Please, Ami...answer the question. You're not, you're just giving glib answers that ultimately don't mean anything.

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I am really tired. I just got back from a memorial service. I am wiped out. I will be back later or tomorrow. Sorry, Pixie.

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posted January 18, 2014 06:14 PM            

I feel like you set traps for me and it takes too much mental energy for me to try to go around them etc

I appreciate your bringing the thread back to the subject but maybe someone else will answer your questions, Pixie.

That would be good and Take care

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posted January 18, 2014 06:47 PM            

at least let me make you a gypsy-ish camouflage patterned turban trimmed in a bright hunter orange lace
to read futures under?

Why not? I am mutable

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posted January 18, 2014 06:56 PM            

None are LL. They are Google, Google uk, Google Australia, one of my most popular articles on the North Node that has had about 4000 people read it, which is amazing to me, and two others I forget.

I am here at LL because I love it. I want to give back to Randall and the people who were so good to me when I was in a terrible state after the death of my son.

I don't worry about business one way or another either.

My website is not about business. It is my contribution to people.

I only have it as a business so I can learn lessons that only a business gives but I give away the great majority of my time and are very happy to do so.

Also, IQ taught me that people won't appreciate things if they are free.

One chart takes me 3-4 days of my time and energy and one's time and work does have value. One gets self esteem for being paid for one's labors. That is capitalism, Cata, which you don't like.

That is how free enterprise works.

Anyway,that is the story, Cata.

Take care

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posted January 18, 2014 08:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Pixie
I am gonna be honest since everyone is airing their feelings. I find it very hard to talk to you.

I feel like you set traps for me and it takes too much mental energy for me to try to go around them etc

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I will be honest, too: I almost always skip your threads as they tend to be absurd, childish, and often link to sites that lack credibility, more than once it was even to satire sites (doing it once is one thing, but you did it so many times I couldn't believe you weren't doing it on purpose). But as you had so many Duck Dynasty threads I got curious what you could possibly be talking about this time and also wanted to guess which forum it would get moved to.

The questions were not a trap and as they deal with the same types of questions courts wrestle with you shouldn't have a problem with it even if it was if you were as smart as you keep saying you are (and the rest of us as dumb as you keep saying we are). They were trying to help you (and maybe others) to put some meaning and real thought into this thread which it currently lacks (at least for its stated purpose). However, I'm used to you bailing ('course when anyone bails on you then you say they ran afraid of your "truth" but it's always different when you do it), which is why I tried to keep it as simple and concise as possible. I'd have been pleasantly surprised if you'd put real thought into it and might reevaluate some of my harsh judgments of you. At the very least it would give a POINT to this thread other than another way for you to stir up drama and bringing attention to yourself (and nothing else).

posted January 18, 2014 08:35 PM            

Once I graduated from grad school, I said I would never struggle with things that were not clear and easy to understand again.

I can't follow your reasoning. Maybe, it is me but I hope that other people will respond to your question.

I am not trying to be mean but you and I do not have a simpatico but I wish you well.

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