posted January 19, 2014 01:21 PM            

I like the For Dummies series of books. There is something comforting about thinking you can approach a difficult topic like car mechanics with a simple and fun book. The series is brilliant such that I copy it’s theme on a topic or two. The topic of Israel’s right to her land does not need a For Dummies book because it is very simple. It is so simple that I can explain it in a few simple steps.

I have had this manner of discussion with all sorts of Israel haters. Each one, to a man, agreed with the historical facts. Each Israel hater went off to hate Israel in the same breath.

I have seen this time and time again. It is a spiritual problem, not an intellectual one. People who hate Israel hate her because they have a spiritual blindness. Only God can remove those blinders. I have seen these blinders removed in many cases. However, man cannot take off the blinders from the eyes of another man. I have learned that, as well. One can only present the facts and pray for the people.

This article is not about the spiritual but the political, so I will go onto that. I needed to give the above information as to why people would reject overt historical facts in favor of blindness. I think I told you why and now I will move on to the topic.

How Israel Got Her Land

1. There was a Holocaust. There was no place for the Jews to go, so they were murdered in the millions.

2.Chaim Weitzman gave his invention of the chemical formula to England in return for land in the Middle east which England owned.

3. England divided up the land between the Arabs and the Jews. The Arabs picked first and picked the bigger piece. This was called Jordan.

4. The Jews got the leftover smaller piece.

5. The Jews made their sliver of land turn into an oasis. Israel feeds the Middle east and produces as many flowers as Holland. Israel is a mecca for the world in every technology and every other form of man’s achievements. It is a center of light in the Middle East. It is the only place in the Middle east where all people are free because it is a democracy.

6. As soon as Israel became a state, she was invaded by her surrounding Arab enemies.

7. No country can defeat her, then or now. However, they try.

8. Back to the Palestinians, they were thugs from Jordan who got kicked out into refugee camps. They are not any sort of ancient people. That is a lie. They are Jordanians whom Jordan did not want.

9. These fake Palestinian people are used by the Arabs and the Anti Semites to wage war on Israel.

10. The hatred of Israel is Anti-Semitic. The Israel hater is the Jew hater. No one can refute these historical facts.

I will end with this. Bible Prophecy will play out. All nations will come against Israel. Each nation and each person will choose with whom they will ally themselves. The spiritual war is between the ancient brothers Ishameal and Isaac. I am a teacher, by nature. I can only teach. It is up to the heart of each man to reject or accept. Now, you know the truth. What you do with it is between you and God.

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posted January 19, 2014 01:22 PM            

We will only deal with the 10 steps as they are political, not religious.

I am here for anyone who wants to discuss it but the rule is that we go point by point and you can answer yea or nay for each point.

If you answer nay, back it up in your own words not a bunch of wordy links.

I am here if you all want to discuss this. Take care

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posted January 19, 2014 01:36 PM            

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posted January 19, 2014 01:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Just an aside, if a person does not understand a subject without giving a bunch of verbose links, he does not understand the subject. Anyone who gets on this thread must talk in his own words. If you can't, don't come on.

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Everyone is welcome to post on any thread in GU they wish.. No restrictions except treat others as you wish to be treated.

posted January 19, 2014 01:56 PM            

You will discuss each point one by one.

Why don't you start with Number One, Juni. Do you believe there was a Holocaust or are you a Holocaust Denier?

A yes or no will suffice nicely, Juni

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posted January 19, 2014 02:08 PM            

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posted January 19, 2014 04:37 PM            

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posted January 19, 2014 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
They can believe whatever they want to believe.

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You are right, Randall.

I realize that I have my lessons to learn and I have been learning them but they are not easy.

Boy, I wish people could learn lessons, easily. I mean the amount of pain and suffering it takes me to learn one inch.

Then, I look and there are the rest of the 11 inches in the ruler

posted January 19, 2014 11:28 PM            

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Anyway, I thought this thread was really adorable. Ami sets up a classroom for the dummies, insists that ONLY dummies attend the class, expels the smart people or rebukes them for actually thinking, and keeps smiling because she knows those self-proclaimed dummies are going to come to her class one of these days!

And she never loses her smile. " "

posted January 20, 2014 07:39 AM            

I am a natural teacher and I try to educate people on whatever it is I have a passion for from Astrology to God.

The subject of Israel and where you stand on her of front and center in this time in history, which the Bible calls the end times.

Anyone can see that terrible things are happening in the world. Nuff said.

I tried to educate the people on here about the facts on Israel.

If you don't want to face them, then I am moving on.

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posted January 20, 2014 12:58 PM            

"Natural Teacher"

A few of us have tried to educate you on just what we have learned at your sermons. Note to Faith: this particular teacher [aminatrix] is unable to learn.

I will repeat what has not only been illustrated, but fact. NONE of us 'hates' Israel, got that? None of us 'hates' Jews, yet we refute practically every 'article' you post on the subject.

Nearly every point you make CAN be refuted, so that makes us as a group Jew/Israel haters... you are hilarious.

Has ANYONE stated they do not think the holocaust happened? NO

yet you continue on with your rants and raves.

You, Ami are not a servant of your tribe. You promote your cause in the worst possible way.

When is the natural teacher ever going to learn?

Never

I also take serious issue with your attack[s] on Juni.
Are you challenged by her? Do you feel she knows more than you about religion and philosophy? Is that why you attack her repeatedly? Well, her soul based love is a serious challenge to you. Rarely have I seen someone one the internet turn the other cheek toward you with greater aplomb...and well, grace. Juni is a graceful person, and YOU hate that.

All of your posts on ISREAL BELONG IN DD.
but you don't go there anymore, do you?

posted January 20, 2014 01:00 PM            

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then I am moving on

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you keep promising this [for years]

posted January 20, 2014 01:11 PM            

but it never happens

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posted January 20, 2014 01:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Node:
I will repeat what has not only been illustrated, but fact. NONE of us 'hates' Israel, got that? None of us 'hates' Jews, yet we refute practically every 'article' you post on the subject.

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She gets away with slandering us. I hate that.

posted January 20, 2014 03:21 PM            

People will get the wrong idea, because Ami is giving them the wrong idea.

posted January 20, 2014 04:18 PM            

That sounds like a very hateful word, Faith

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posted January 20, 2014 05:11 PM            

I pray it will touch your heart, my Friend.

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posted January 20, 2014 06:11 PM            

as faith said, alll charm and hearts when randall calls then back to degrading her pet peeves till next time. Sounds familiar...

how long is it going to be Allowed for a mod to go around assassinating the characters of those they don't like and closing threads, ie shutting people up, because they tried to be nice or offer advice?

this has been going on for years, since FC tried to point out a positive approach and Lara tried to warn her about a certain gold digging creep...

Over& out

posted January 20, 2014 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
I also lo v e the "Sociopath" thread in Brown Owl where Ami explains to a newbie how foul juni, I and node are, and how she deals with "jerks" ie anyone who says anything she doesn't want said, by closing the thread immediately. Pity she can't just delete us all, isn't it.

as faith said, alll charm and hearts when randall calls then back to degrading her pet peeves till next time. Sounds familiar...

how long is it going to be Allowed for a mod to go around assassinating the characters of those they don't like and closing threads, ie shutting people up, because they tried to be nice or offer advice?

this has been going on for years, since FC tried to point out a positive approach and Lara tried to warn her about a certain gold digging creep...

Over& out

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I should not have mentioned the names. I took them out, Cata.

I get frustrated and angry but I say I am sorry when I am wrong.

That is character.

For all you have done to me, you have never said you were sorry, as has not the other person who has wronged me time and time and time again.

I have character. That does not mean I won't screw up. It means I will own it.

I owned it. I should not have named names and I took them off.

Take care, Cata

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posted January 20, 2014 06:22 PM            

I will drop dead and never come back again

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posted January 20, 2014 06:25 PM            

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shutting people up, because they tried to be nice or offer advice?

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