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Faith
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posted January 20, 2014 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So many people in the public eye! How does one differentiate between the honest and the fake?

Growing up as a scrupulously, almost pathologically, honest person whose conscience suffered tremendously even for telling itty bitty lies, I had a really hard time understanding how anyone could ever ENJOY lying. Nevertheless, life has been such that I encounter lairs over and over again. People who lie...for FUN!

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“Duping delight” is when a person will flash a smile in response to a statement that they feel secretly proud of hiding.

http://spottheliar.com/tag/duping-delight/

There are lots of other ways to spot a liar. I think the world would be a better place if we were all adept at reading these signs and dealing with information accordingly. It would eliminate a lot of needless debate about people's character, for example. Liars would become transparent and everyone would be on the same page, regarding the liars.

Anthony Weiner and Duping Delight

Interesting, isn't it?

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pire
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posted January 20, 2014 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I am a duping delight if what it means is choosing what I want to reveal.

It helped me fit in in my job, a masculine world, where gays aren't easily accepted. I wouldn't lie about my orientation if someone asked me, and I don't pretend to be what I am not when talks get more precise about sex. I just know how to choose my words and my moments to speak. in that sense, I am a duping delight I suppose. but I see far more advantages to it than to total truth.

I am openly out, my mum, (my dad is dead) and all my family knows my sexual orientation because I told them, (except to my grand ma though she stopped asking about a potential girlfriend when I turned thirty) my friends know too.

however at work, I don't see how it is of any interest to people who just spend a few hours with me working and don't have my best interest at heart. I am not friend with people in my work, I enjoy them and they enjoy me I suppose, but it is not a place where everything needs to be discussed.
But if I recall, Faith, you don't work, so you can't know that...

So all in all, I don't think honesty is the best policy in every situation. I grew up a lot about that idea.

A great shift in me was when I accepted others did not tell me all they thought about something or about me for example.
At first it hurts to consider people had been untrustworthy about their feeling towards me, but then I realised that people should not be trustworthy to my eyes if they say or don't say something or how they judge me.
If I don't want to set up traps for myself, then I shall not expect trust to imply something in return, it's either there or it isn't, because all I can trully act on, is my trust for them, not theirs for me... for example I don't trust my coworkers to acts with care if I explain my sexual orientation.

it freed me from expectations. and I need to remind this to me when I feel let down by people who weren't totally honest with me....

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posted January 20, 2014 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

That is very cool, Pire. I never heard you talk from your heart like that. You may have but I never heard it. Wise words!


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posted January 20, 2014 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I just know how to choose my words and my moments to speak. in that sense, I am a duping delight I suppose.

Duping delight is a technical term, though, for a specific kind of behavior.

Do you derive happiness from fooling people and look for opportunities to fool them? Some people habitually do so, because they are addicted to that duper's delight high. It gives some people an adrenaline rush, measurable on polygraph tests.

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But if I recall, Faith, you don't work, so you can't know that...

I work plenty and have worked in many different environments: corporate, restaurant, college, and so on.

Thanks for your input, though.

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posted January 20, 2014 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, I don't do it for fun or an adrenaline rush, so I may not qualify :-)

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posted January 20, 2014 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well-said, pire.

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posted January 20, 2014 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith I have wondered the same thing about the fawning newbies ... Just saying.

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posted January 20, 2014 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried the Tony Weiner link but it`s a vid.

Boy, he`s a class act ey. Duped the political dupers pretty good

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posted January 20, 2014 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, pire, you are not a duper. What's none of their business is none of their business. Bet your granmother figured it out awhile ago and doesn't consider it her business either x

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posted January 20, 2014 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Faith I have wondered the same thing about the fawning newbies ... Just saying.


Telltale syntax, timing, political views, alignments with people.

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posted January 20, 2014 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
No, pire, you are not a duper. What's none of their business is none of their business. Bet your granmother figured it out awhile ago and doesn't consider it her business either x

^ This ^

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posted January 22, 2014 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"So many people in the public eye! How does one differentiate between the honest and the fake?
Growing up as a scrupulously, almost pathologically, honest person whose conscience suffered tremendously even for telling itty bitty lies, I had a really hard time understanding how anyone could ever ENJOY lying. Nevertheless, life has been such that I encounter lairs over and over again. People who lie...for FUN!"...Faith

What the hell? This is a legitimate line of enquiry by Faith given the propensity of political hacks to lie upon every occasion. Their theory of governance seems to be..How Can We Fool Them Today!

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Catalina
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posted January 22, 2014 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And not just political hacks, but media, businesses, advertisers, you name it...though I don't know if it's just a modern disease, or Lincoln wouldn't haveuttered the famous "You can fool all the people"

Another old quote - was it Twain? Correctme anyone :

It's easier to rob a man with a pen than with a sword" Memory is a little hazy on that one

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posted January 22, 2014 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"And not just political hacks, but media, businesses, advertisers, you name it...though I don't know if it's just a modern disease, or Lincoln wouldn't haveuttered the famous "You can fool all the people"...Catalina

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln

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Catalina
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posted January 23, 2014 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes.thanks.Jwhop, i was on the fly as i am all week. You can fool all the people some of the time...

His main point is that anyone csn be fooled sometimes but some people think they can fool everyone every time, and spend a lot of time honing their scams in the attempt.

And yes, Faith, it is a lot of fun for some, whether it makes them feel smarter, or brings them more wealth or power. People at every social "station", of every religion, from every country. Many of them, to be fair, lie to themselves first and foremost.

What's worse, they consider us pathological truth tellers to be "boring", foolish , or just humorless when wwille protest!

The other quote was Woody Guthrie

"some will rob you with a six gun.
Some with a fountain pen"

But ultimately you can't fool everyone and most who try end up "hoist in their own petard"

We do seem to be in a manic phase for the liars camp these days

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posted January 23, 2014 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So yes, Faith, very interesting! I am going to look a little closer as soon as I get a chance to see if there is any such info on written comunications... like the press, official announcements, and internet convos. Though we have emoticons here they are limited and can't always truly reflect facial expressions.

I found the bit about Nixon's awkwardness a little dubious, in that many good people are awkward because they are shy, and they may only be "concealing" their fears of rejection, not detection

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posted January 23, 2014 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just another voice here

I find when a basically honest persons deceives, they do it poorly.

They leave trails of breadcrumbs that a deceptive person is too smart to scatter.

The inability to defend the breadcrumbs is also another clue to deception of the unlearned.

Yet deceive they do. Weiner got caught but there are so many walking that road of deception , in power with impunity.......


Until they send sex pics

or block bridges

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