posted February 21, 2014 01:01 PM            

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Humanity will survive, but the wide implications will be devastating to our food supply and cause a resulting domino effect the like of which we have never seen in modern times.

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This is actually hypocritical on your part. You suspect drastic consequences based upon a belief that is not scientifically based, whilst lamenting those that suspect drastic consequences based upon a belief that is scientifically based (though you don't think it is).

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The Monsanto Act was signed by the Liberal of all Liberals: Obama.

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There is no Monsanto Act. You're not paying attention (because this is also something we discussed here in this forum: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/001650.html ).
Not only so, but speculation that GMOs are killing bees hasn't been proven by science. I posted that site I was reading on my thread. The site suggests some possibilities that are still in the mix, but largely exonerates GMOs and Monsanto: http://scientificbeekeeping.com/sick-bees-part-18e-colony-collapse-revisited-genetically-modified-plants/

I have argued the other side of this as well. In fact, I was given that site in response to a post I made in the comments section of an article attempting to excuse Monsanto: http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/02/inquiring-minds-steven-novella-gmo

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Where is the discussion of bees in this article? That's all I want to know. It's all well and good that they're potentially safe for OUR consumption ...

The response given to me by another reader, RobertWagner:

Verdict on Bt crops: The specific Bt cry proteins used in GM crops were intentionally chosen to not cause harm to bees. There is no evidence to date that they do. On the other hand, Bt crops require less use of insecticides that are clearly toxic to bees [25].

Verdict on GM crops in general: Allow me to quote from the USDA:
…there is no correlation between where GM crops are planted and the pattern of CCD incidents. Also, GM crops have been widely planted since the late 1990s, but CCD did not appear until 2006. In addition, CCD has been reported in countries that do not allow GM crops to be planted, such as Switzerland [33].
http://scientificbeekeeping.com/sick-bees-part-18e-colony-collapse-revisited-genetically-modified-plants/

Here's the document he referred to in the second paragraph: http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archive/jul12/colony0712suspects.pdf

posted February 21, 2014 02:05 PM            

If the bees die off, and a third of our crops die out, you don't think that's a problem based on scientific facts? Not to mention all of the other insect species affected by those plants no longer existing. Yet you think a tiny rise in temps is a problem? Or no rise as the case may be.

posted February 21, 2014 02:38 PM            

I also think many emphases are wrongheaded. Apparently insecticides and other pesticided are more suspect than gmos with the bees. I don't know, tho GMOs are not allowed to grow in my county and we definitely have bees. It's an ongoing investigation from what I know.

posted February 21, 2014 02:49 PM            

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If the bees die off, and a third of our crops die out, you don't think that's a problem based on scientific facts? Not to mention all of the other insect species affected by those plants no longer existing. Yet you think a tiny rise in temps is a problem? Or no rise as the case may be.

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I suspect I might know a bit more about the issue than you do on account of my curiosity. There are other ways of pollinating. You can pollinate by hand, for instance. Also, labs are creating robotic bees to serve this purpose as well.

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No, it wasn't actually called The Monsanto Act--no more so than the ACA is actually called Obamacare. But it existed. Obama signed it. Wiki facts below:

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posted February 24, 2014 11:37 AM            

You think backwards. You decide, and then you try to justify. That's not how rationality works.

posted February 25, 2014 10:57 AM            

Veteran psychiatrist calls liberals mentally ill
Publishes extensive study on 'Psychological Causes of Political Madness'
November 12, 2008

WASHINGTON – Just when liberals thought it was safe to start identifying themselves as such, an acclaimed, veteran psychiatrist is making the case that the ideology motivating them is actually a mental disorder.
"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness." "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."

While political activists on the other side of the spectrum have made similar observations, Rossiter boasts professional credentials and a life virtually free of activism and links to "the vast right-wing conspiracy."
For more than 35 years he has diagnosed and treated more than 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist.
He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago.

Rossiter says the kind of liberalism being displayed by both Barack Obama and his Democratic primary opponent Hillary Clinton can only be understood as a psychological disorder.

"A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity – as liberals do," he says. "A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population – as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state – as liberals do."

Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:
• creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
• satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
• augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
• rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.

"The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness – can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind," he says. "When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious."

Leftists are afflicted with a delusional psychosis in which they are intellectually, morally and spiritually superior beings; when in reality, leftists don't measure up to average ordinary Americans.

Hence, they're incapable of getting much right and if leftists get anywhere near the levers of power in any nation, they prove to be royal screw-ups...example, Barack Hussein O'Bomber.

posted February 25, 2014 12:06 PM            

Signing a bill that would be enacted by both Houses of Congress regardless of what you do is not the sign of a crook. How dumb an assertion is that?

What word did Obama give to stop anything Monsanto deals with? He promised to work to have GMOs labeled immediately in 2007. When was "The Monsanto Protection Act" signed? 2013. If he broke a promise, it was long before the supposed "Monsanto Protection Act" was ever around.

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You are saying that when Obama tells the American people that he promises he will veto a bill, he is really just bluffing, but he intends on signing it, because he is spineless. Agreed!

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