posted March 02, 2014 11:34 AM            

If you want to feel better about yourself by living in denial, please do. But don't try to lay this idiocy on the rest of us.

As I said in the other thread the IPCC concludes that global warming is HAPPENING NOW and it is MAN MADE. Sure other stuff can impact and the earth has naturally been through cycles and all that stuff; but NOTHING compared to what we are experiencing now. The developments we are seeing would take the earth several thousands of years to do on its own.

Saying that global warming is happening and is because of humans is not an opinion. It is a statement of fact. I would know. I've spent the last 5 years studying this stuff.

posted March 02, 2014 12:58 PM            

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It's hidden deep inside the ocean--where it can never be measured. How convenient.

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That's stupid. I just posted for you how it IS measured. Nothing convenient about it.

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There must be a natural mechanism to deal with CO2, manmade or not, or else we would not be seeing this absence of warming.

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There's not an absence of warming. Number one, there's no recession in the temperatures we've warmed to, and number two, the ocean is now taking the brunt of the warming (as evidenced by ice melt and rising oceans).

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If you want to feel better about yourself by living in denial, please do. But don't try to lay this idiocy on the rest of us.

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posted March 02, 2014 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
You've been duped. Many thousands of scientists have not fallen for this manufactured "consensus." Stop believing what the IPCC tells you and unquestioningly taking it as gospel, and expand your awareness. Check out the link below:
http://www.petitionproject.org/

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posted March 03, 2014 01:05 PM            

Petition project isn't a scientific endeavor. It proves nothing.
Further, there is no "manufactured" consensus. There is only consensus, which is real and measured as we've discussed several times.

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There's no recession in temps. But there has been no increase in temps either--not for years. Is that correct, AG?

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There has been a variable temperature plateau, yes. I don't know why you're asking. We've been over this.

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The IPCC is a UN organization. Scientists, they may be...but politics are the motivation. Just because something is taught at a university or found in a textbook doesn't make it true.

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posted March 03, 2014 04:09 PM            

But, this is interesting:

Sun-dimming volcanoes partly explain global warming hiatus-study

BY ALISTER DOYLE, ENVIRONMENT CORRESPONDENT
OSLO Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:06pm EST

(Reuters) - Small volcanic eruptions help explain a hiatus in global warming this century by dimming sunlight and offsetting a rise in emissions of heat-trapping gases to record highs, a study showed on Sunday.

Eruptions of at least 17 volcanoes since 2000, including Nabro in Eritrea, Kasatochi in Alaska and Merapi in Indonesia, ejected sulfur whose sun-blocking effect had been largely ignored until now by climate scientists, it said.

The pace of rising world surface temperatures has slowed since an exceptionally warm 1998, heartening those who doubt that an urgent, trillion-dollar shift to renewable energies from fossil fuels is needed to counter global warming.

Explaining the hiatus could bolster support for a U.N. climate deal, due to be agreed by almost 200 governments at a summit in Paris in late 2015 to avert ever more floods, droughts, heatwaves and rising sea levels.

"This is a complex detective story," said Benjamin Santer of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, lead author of the study in the journal Nature Geoscience that gives the most detailed account yet of the cooling impact of volcanoes.

"Volcanoes are part of the answer but there's no factor that is solely responsible for the hiatus," he told Reuters of the study by a team of U.S. and Canadian experts.

Volcanoes are a wild card for climate change - they cannot be predicted and big eruptions, most recently of Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines in 1991, can dim global sunshine for years.

Santer said other factors such as a decline in the sun's output, linked to a natural cycle of sunspots, or rising Chinese emissions of sun-blocking pollution could also help explain the recent slowdown in warming.

The study suggested that volcanoes accounted for up to 15 percent of the difference between predicted and observed warming this century. All things being equal, temperatures should rise because greenhouse gas emissions have hit repeated highs.

TEMPORARY RESPITE

"Volcanoes give us only a temporary respite from the relentless warming pressure of continued increases in carbon dioxide," said Piers Forster, Professor of Climate Change at the University of Leeds.

A study by the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change last year suggested that natural variations in the climate, such as an extra uptake of heat by the oceans, could help explain the warming slowdown at the planet's surface.

The IPCC projected a resumption of warming in coming years and said that "substantial and sustained" cuts in greenhouse gas emissions were needed to counter climate change.

It also raised the probability that human activities were the main cause of warming since 1950 to at least 95 percent from 90 in 2007. Despite the hiatus, temperatures have continued to rise - 13 of the 14 warmest years on record have been this century, according to the World Meteorological Organisation.

posted March 04, 2014 12:08 PM            

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Interesting as to how the alarmists include the sun in their analyses when it suits them.

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