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jwhop
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posted April 14, 2014 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Catalina
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posted April 14, 2014 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess Rush is a fan too, then, huh? He has spent decades blaming the left, blacks and feminazis for eveeything wrong with your life. Divide and conquer was not an Alinsky invention. Haven't read his books but i have studied enough history to know that.

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posted April 14, 2014 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who says there's anything wrong with my life? In any event, feminazis and black folks have nothing to do with what I think about the community organizer and Marxist Messiah O'Bomber. Neither does Limbaugh, by the way.

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posted April 14, 2014 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check. Gotcha. Nothing wrong with your life and Limbaugh has no influence on your thought.

Never mind that "your" was used in the generic sense, and Limbaugh has been pushing division for decades...and talk radio on both sides of the fence has done the same...

It's all about a dead man and the LEFTIST FEMINAZI COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS.

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jwhop
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posted April 15, 2014 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's right..Check! Limbaugh has no influence on what I think. I arrive at my political conclusions well before Limbaugh ever gets there. As concerns O'Bomber, I tagged him as a Marxist Socialist Progressive at least a year before Limbaugh got there. In fact, based on what Rush Limbaugh says and when he says it, Limbaugh could be reading my posts here. I've even been accused of BEING LIMBAUGH!

"It's all about a dead man and the LEFTIST FEMINAZI COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS."...Catalina/katatonic

Listen up, you don't know enough to have this conversion with me.

It's not about one dead man..Saul Alinsky. It's about a series of Marxist Socialist Progressives going all the way back to O'Bomber's birth and continuing to the present.

O'Bomber's parents were Socialists and perhaps Communists.

O'Bomber's grandparents were Socialists and perhaps Communists.

O'Bomber early mentor was Frank Marshall Davis...a member of the Communist Party USA with a thick FBI file.

O'Bomber gravited towards..his words..."Marxist Professors" and "structural feminists" in college...both are code words for Communists.

O'Bomber's association with and allegiance to ACORN..a Marxist Socialist Progressive alliance of far left groups engaged in attempts to overthrow the US electoral system by fraudulent voter registrations and illegal voting is a continuation of O'Bomber's association with Communists, Socialists and Progressives...same thing.

O'Bomber's associations with Democratic Socialists of America and his domestic terrorist bomber Communist pal Bill Ayers merely show O'Bomber carried his Marxist Socialist Progressive upbringing into the present.

O'Bomber's 20 year association with Jeremiah Wright's church, the religion being based on "Liberation Theology" which is a Communist invention straight out of Moscow to drive a wedge between citizens of South and Central America and the Catholic Church adds to the rounding out of picture of Barack Hussein O'Bomber.

It's not just the Communist Revolutionary, Saul Alinsky whose writings O'Bomber worshiped and implemented as a "Community Organizer", it's also Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, also Communists who devised a strategy for the destruction of the American economic system and republican form of government.

O'Bomber has been implementing this strategy since he was elected. It involves overloading government institutions to the point they collapse. Social welfare recipients have skyrocketed under O'Bomber while at the same time employment has declined. O'BomberCare is intended to be the bridge to a US "Single Payer" Socialist health care system, a Socialist wet dream which will bankrupt the United States.

That's the idea, that's the strategy. Bankrupt the United States, cause unrest, blame Capitalism and agitate for Socialism.

Every action O'Bomber has taken is in pursuit of this strategy and goal. When you hear O'Bomber talk about "economic and social justice", you're hearing old hardline Communist buzz words.

So, it's not just about one man..Saul Alinsky.

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posted April 15, 2014 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He may not influence your initial thoughts, but he corroborates and expands on your hatred, and division.

The fact that he agrees with your mindset is influential.

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jwhop
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posted April 16, 2014 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"He may not influence your initial thoughts, but he corroborates and expands on your hatred, and division."...Node

The most hateful people I've ever encountered on planet earth are leftists. Many examples are available...if you want to pursue this.

That's right, Limbaugh doesn't influence my "initial thoughts".

The fact Limbaugh agrees with my mindset is an indicator that perhaps I influence Limbaugh's thoughts.

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posted April 17, 2014 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O'Bomber implementing the Alinsky-Cloward-Pivin strategy to bankrupt the United States.

86M Full-Time Private-Sector Workers Sustain 148M Benefit Takers
April 16, 2014 - 5:04 AM
By Terence P. Jeffrey

Buried deep on the website of the U.S. Census Bureau is a number every American citizen, and especially those entrusted with public office, should know. It is 86,429,000.

That is the number of Americans who in 2012 got up every morning and went to work — in the private sector — and did it week after week after week.

These are the people who built America, and these are the people who can sustain it as a free country. The liberal media have not made them famous like the polar bear, but they are truly a threatened species.

It is not a rancher with a few hundred head of cattle that is attacking their habitat, nor an energy company developing a fossil fuel. It is big government and its primary weapon — an ever-expanding welfare state.

First, let's look at the basic taxonomy of the full-time, year-round American worker.

In 2012, according to the Census Bureau, approximately 103,087,000 people worked full-time, year-round in the United States. "A full-time, year-round worker is a person who worked 35 or more hours per week (full time) and 50 or more weeks during the previous calendar year (year round)," said the Census Bureau. "For school personnel, summer vacation is counted as weeks worked if they are scheduled to return to their job in the fall."

Of the 103,087,000 full-time, year-round workers, 16,606,000 worked for the government. That included 12,597,000 who worked for state and local government and 4,009,000 who worked for the federal government.

The 86,429,000 Americans who worked full-time, year-round in the private sector, included 77,392,000 employed as wage and salary workers for private-sector enterprises and 9,037,000 who worked for themselves. (There were also approximately 52,000 who worked full-time, year-round without pay in a family enterprise.)

At first glance, 86,429,000 might seem like a healthy population of full-time private-sector workers. But then you need to look at what they are up against.

The Census Bureau also estimates the size of the benefit-receiving population.

This population, too, falls into two broad categories. The first includes those who receive benefits for public services they performed or in exchange for payroll taxes they dutifully paid their entire working lives. Among these, for example, are those receiving veteran's benefits, those on unemployment and those getting Medicare and Social Security.

The second category includes those who get "means-tested" government benefits — or welfare. These include, for example, those who get Medicaid, food stamps, Supplemental Security Income, public housing, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, and Women, Infants Children.

Let's examine this second category first, which the Census Bureau reports as "anyone residing in a household in which one or more people received benefits from the program."

In the last quarter of 2011, according to the Census Bureau, approximately 82,457,000 people lived in households where one or more people were on Medicaid. 49,073,000 lived in households were someone got food stamps. 23,228,000 lived in households where one or more got WIC. 20,223,000 lived in households where one or more got SSI. 13,433,000 lived in public or government-subsidized housing.

Of course, it stands to reason that some people lived in households that received more than one welfare benefit at a time. To account for this, the Census Bureau published a neat composite statistic: There were 108,592,000 people in the fourth quarter of 2011 who lived in a household that included people on "one or more means-tested program."

Those 108,592,000 outnumbered the 86,429,000 full-time private-sector workers who inhabited the United States in 2012 by almost 1.3 to 1.

This brings us to the first category of benefit receivers. There were 49,901,000 people receiving Social Security in the fourth quarter of 2011, and 46,440,000 receiving Medicare. There were also 5,098,000 getting unemployment compensation.

And there were also, 3,178,000 veterans receiving benefits and 34,000 veterans getting educational assistance.

All told, including both the welfare recipients and the non-welfare beneficiaries, there were 151,014,000 who "received benefits from one or more programs" in the fourth quarter of 2011. Subtract the 3,212,000 veterans, who served their country in the most profound way possible, and that leaves 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers.

The 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers outnumbered the 86,429,000 full-time private sector workers 1.7 to 1.

How much more can the 86,429,000 endure?

As more baby boomers retire, and as Obamacare comes fully online — with its expanded Medicaid rolls and federally subsidized health insurance for anyone earning less than 400 percent of the poverty level — the number of takers will inevitably expand. And the number of full-time private-sector workers might also contract.

Eventually, there will be too few carrying too many, and America will break.
http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/86m-full-time-private-sector-workers-sustain-148m-benefit-takers

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Catalina
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posted April 17, 2014 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You paid for your social security and medicare like everyone else receiving them.They are not "welfare" and you know it. Most people on medicaid also pay into it because most of them are working. In fact if you take the most pessimistic figures, 88% of the workforce is employed (12% unemployed)...perhaps you'd be willing to check out so the younger folk won't be so burdened?

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posted April 17, 2014 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In Denmark, where benefits are much more henerous, the recession hardly bit and people are working and prospering. No correlation you make stands up to scrutiny.

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posted April 17, 2014 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Citizens do not direct pay into Medicaid. Medicaid is paid by state and federal taxes.

O'BomberCare expansion of Medicaid is going to bankrupt the US...this is O'Bomber's intention as with all the welfare programs.

Alinsky/Cloward/Piven:

Overload the system until it collapses...then blame Capitalism and screech for Socialism.

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posted April 17, 2014 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And those taxes come out of wages. Ofcourse not nearly as much as goes into the war machine, or refunds to the Koch family business, or subsidies to utilities...

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jwhop
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posted April 17, 2014 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excuse me, you were wrong...as usual.

Medicaid is not paid for by Medicaid recipients.

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Catalina
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posted April 18, 2014 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dearie, many medicaid recipients earn enough to pay taxes, and many more are only temporarily under the line. So no, I am not wrong. You are listening to information that conveniently omits facts that don't support the party line.

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posted April 18, 2014 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excuse me but Medicaid recipients DO NOT directly pay for Medicaid Health Insurance.

The fact Medicaid recipients May pay some local, state and federal taxes does not mean they pay Medicaid insurance premiums...because there are no Medicaid insurance premiums.

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posted April 19, 2014 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can't pay what doesn't exist.

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