posted September 24, 2014 02:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
I know of him. There is a lot of evidence pointing to him being a total fraud...for starters the supposed attacks he took part in apparently never happened.

We all know the situation is fraught with Possible disaster. But panic and mirror-stigmatization do NOT serve peace or coexistence or even winning the Good Fight. They just cause an out-of-the-pan-into-the-fire scenario that Undermines the possibility you wish for.

Try not assuming that everyone here is ignorant just because they resent your JewHater baiting approach. It might just be that YOU have something to learn that is being blocked by your kneejerk victim reactions.

Try examining ALL black-and-white propaganda and seeing that there is a very complex situation that ALL sides need to understand if we are to come out of this with anything but a nuclear wasteland in the ME, including Israel.

Try not demonizing everyone who has a different angle on it. Just for starters!

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I am sorry you feel that way, Cata

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posted September 24, 2014 05:13 PM            

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The people here at LL who sympathize with the plight of Gazans, imprisoned in squalor and rubble and with nowhere to run when the bombs come, are not looking for the destruction of Israel or Jews, but deploring the lack of humanity in the situation. Yes, Israel has a genuine self-defense issue, but she has exacerbated the problem with pre-emptive strikes against neighbours, land grabs during ceasefires, and general lack of observation of the rights of A People.

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That`s correct, well put and the situtation is beyond closing a blind eye or demonizing.

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We need to be very careful not to convince the body of Islam that we are against them all...before they decide they have nowhere else to go but into the arms of the extremists. They are working behind the scenes, for the sake of staying alive so they can keep doing so, so you may not SEE what is going on. I have been privileged to work with Muslims and Arab Christians who have been part of a Resistance for decades now. Branding them all with the same Scarlet Letters will only hurt.

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Yes. I too have very dear Muslim friends and I worked closely with them in their neighborhood. To put all in the same pot is demoralizing and can only cause a bigger divide.

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Walid Shoebat

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Correct again. The events he claimed either never happened OR was so exaggerated, they hold no context in a possable true event.

To demean a group as a whole is unjust and demoralizing. We all should rise above it and see humanity at it`s best and worst. Not lump them all in the same evil basket.

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posted September 25, 2014 08:03 AM            

Very conveniently, the Terrorist groups like ISIL misuse these sword verses out of context to brainwash losers into thinking they are fighting for some higher cause.

If Quran and Islam did not exist, these terror groups would have used the Old Testament Deuteronomy like Adolph Hitler did and would have aimed for even more colossal genocide like that done by the "Chosen Tribes" against the innocent Canaanites, Philistines etc.

Terrorism has no religion, however it will use any religion to shed blood and feed the Astral Vampires. Chengiz Khan claimed "Il Tengiri" inspired his genocide. Taimur stuck to his notion of Islam to spread terror. Hitler was inspired by the Old Testament.
Cortez too was inspired by the Old Testament.
Today, ISIL is seeking inspiration from the 19th and early 20th Century Caliphate Movements.

Obama cannot do anything about this. Iran, Russia, Syrian under Assad, a United Iraq, a Free Kurdistan and a cooperative Pakistan can definitely put an end to this.

I would also exhort every Western government to make it illegal to preach Shariah Law. Shariah Law as understood today whether by moderates or extremists has no basis from the Spirit of the Quran. It is based on hearsay traditions collated 300 years ago and falsely attributed to the Prophet and his Companions.

posted September 25, 2014 08:17 AM            

Bless you, IQ, although we do not agree on all things you wrote, above.

Shariah Law put in any country will be the demise of that country.

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posted September 25, 2014 08:22 AM            

Maybe so, but there is no will or not enough will on anyone to stop them.

This is my sincere question for "Moderate Muslims".

When you see a group like ISIS, Hamas etc, why don't you CONDEMN them.

Someone deleted her post where she made a moral equivalency between beheading the journalist and the US fighting needed wars.

The comment is deleted now when I called attention to it but the POINT is that the "Moderate Muslims" seem to be cheering on the Muslim terrorists rather than condemning them.

YOU have always been the way I think a "Moderate Muslim" should be. You are sane. You see right from wrong. You respect Israel as a free and democratic country and an oasis in the Middle East, as I understand your comments.

You are the first one to condemn Muslim terrorism.

I consider you my friend and I hope you feel the same.

We don't fight over politics or anything. We respect each other. I respect you and hope you feel the same way.

Why do the others keep making excuses for it?

Thanks.

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posted September 25, 2014 08:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
So sue Wikipedia and the numerous other sites who find him less than credible.

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posted September 25, 2014 08:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]Very conveniently, the Terrorist groups like ISIL misuse these sword verses out of context to brainwash losers into thinking they are fighting for some higher cause.

Maybe so, but there is no will or not enough will on anyone to stop them.

This is my sincere question for "Moderate Muslims".

When you see a group like ISIS, Hamas etc, why don't you CONDEMN them.

Someone deleted her post where she made a moral equivalency between beheading the journalist and the US fighting needed wars.

The comment is deleted now when I called attention to it but the POINT is that the "Moderate Muslims" seem to be cheering on the Muslim terrorists rather than condemning them.

YOU have always been the way I think a "Moderate Muslim" should be. You are sane. You see right from wrong. You respect Israel as a free and democratic country and an oasis in the Middle East, as I understand your comments.

You are the first one to condemn Muslim terrorism.

I consider you my friend and I hope you feel the same.

We don't fight over politics or anything. We respect each other. I respect you and hope you feel the same way.

Why do the others keep making excuses for it?

Thanks.

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IQ, your input, as always, is most welcome in bringing clarity.

posted September 25, 2014 09:18 AM            

Juni

When I get upset in here, this is the only thing I am saying. People are not condemning Muslim terrorism. They are trying to spin it!

Also, IQ does not think Israel should not exist.

Juni,

How do you think that statement you made about Israel not having the right to her own homeland makes a Jew feel, especially when you look around and see how much Jews are hated, worldwide. You can see the terrible acts committed against us.

Not having Israel will make for our extinction. So, you are essentially saying you WANT that with that comment.

The extinction of the Jewish people would happen without our own homeland where we can escape the vicious hatred anyone can see with their own eyes.

That is the sole reason Hitler could kill 6 million Jews. We had no place to go.

That is the reason Israel was FORMED SO IT WOULD NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.

You think I don't like you. It is not that. Your statements about Jews are despicable

I have seen them on and on and on and on for 6 long, long years.

How do you expect me to feel toward you?

Do you have a comment?

PS Juni, I want YOU to answer and not Cata to answer for you. You have a voice but you allow others to speak for you for some reason Thank you.

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posted September 25, 2014 11:49 AM            

When I point out what could be innocent errors to you, instead of checking if I'm right you attack my character. You do the same here. By your own admission you are too lazy to check your facts even when right in front of you.

I asked PS if she thought beheading was more vicious than wholescale invasion and bombing. From her answer I would guess she, like I and IQ thinks that the West has meddled violently in others' lives.

This is not "moral equivalence" but it does admit that there have been huge abuses to the peoples of many countries by those who had the power to do so. It is easier to practice denial from an airplane or drone control than when face to face with your enemy. Many soldiers would not participate if they had to use primitive one-on-one weapons.

posted September 25, 2014 11:57 AM            

Did you see this, Cata?

PS Juni, I want YOU to answer and not Cata to answer for you. You have a voice but you allow others to speak for you for some reason Thank you.

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posted September 25, 2014 12:03 PM            

I remember what I saw about the beheading. I called you on it and you, probably,wanted to obfuscate, as usual.

I think you thought you could get by with letting your true feelings out a bit lol

That is my point. IF you want Sharia Law, you should SAY IT.

If you hate Jews and want them all to die except a few stragglers, YOU SHOULD SAY IT.

If you think genital mutilation for females is ok, YOU SHOULD SAY IT.

IQ speaks his mind. He never obfuscates. I may not agree with everything but he won't try to hide what he thinks.

I asked you 3 questions. Can you answer in yes or no? I doubt it lol

I would have more respect for you and others on here if they would say these things right out.

WHY try to lie/deceive? I think it is that doctrine. You think people don't know about that. Don't ya? You( and the other(s) are not as slick as you think you are

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posted September 25, 2014 01:35 PM            

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I speak my mind and for myself. Juni has her own mouth. I hadnt seen your nasty condescending post when I was replying to an earlier one. I do not have ro play your dominatrix game with you My position is clear to people who are not blinded by hate and fear.

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I will give credit where credit is due. Your obfuscation is brilliant.

You prolly teach the class in the DOCTRINE of lies/deceiving.

The people who understand you studies at the same class lol

As far as Juni, I asked her some clear questions and we shall see if she answers or ignore.

posted September 25, 2014 01:41 PM            

^^ originally posted by AmiAnne

See ya! Wouldn't want to be ya!

posted September 25, 2014 01:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
"Ignoring is the best revenge"
"Remember, MISSY, when you point a finger three point back at you"

^^ originally posted by AmiAnne

See ya! Wouldn't want to be ya!

What a pity you can't just make us disappear, eh?

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Good obfuscation try, though.

I will obfuscate you back. Guess what? My cherry tree has cherries. They are so cool and so delicious.

Take care, Cata. I am waiting for Juni

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posted September 25, 2014 02:02 PM            

Here is the thing. I asked Juni a sincere question. She and I have not gotten along for 6 very long years.

A big part for me is how she talks about Israel/Jews.

This topic is very visceral to me, as you all know on here.

I want Juni to answer.

Maybe, she feels a different way than she has stated before.

I am giving her a chance to make an olive branch with me by asking her some direct questions

You are going to try to obfuscate for her so my post to her will get lost in the mess you like to make.

Hence, I will ignore all your posts and bump it for Juni, several times.

If she does not answer and obviously sees it, that is her answer LOL

Thanks!

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posted September 25, 2014 02:11 PM            

"I am going to ignore you..to make you feel insignificant..but if you ignore me I will call that a triumph" my paraphrase from Ami's last few posts.

posted September 25, 2014 02:28 PM            

I should not answer but I am going to implore you to stay out of it.

I am a Mars in Cancer and it is hard for me to ask for things directly.

I would like to put these bad feelings with Juni behind me and behind Juni, too, hopefully.

I am extending an olive branch to Juni.

PLEASE RESPECT THAT AND STAY OUT OF IT.

From now on, after my simple request for Juni and I to have a dialogue alone, I will ignore you.

Thank you.

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