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shura
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posted June 28, 2014 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As part of the American Civil Liberties Union’s recent report on police militarization, the Massachusetts chapter of the organization sent open records requests to SWAT teams across that state. It received an interesting response.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/06/26/massachusetts-swat-teams-claim-theyre-private-corporations-immune-from-open-records-laws/?hpid=z4
http://aclum.org/news_6.24.14a

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Catalina
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posted June 28, 2014 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thx shura I had included the growing presence of SWATs in my thread but thought it was an issue too many. Nice to know there are "crazy leftist organizations" like the ACLU still around. Not that they are particularly crazy or leftist but a branch of our population, encouraged by wannabe overlords, have been doing their best to discredit them and others who believe that all the people are entitled to their rights, not just those who can pay for them...

Sunlight is the best disinfectant, not blanket" security"

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Catalina
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posted June 28, 2014 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course if they are in the Constitution-free zone it may be a much bigger battle even than it looks!

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jwhop
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posted June 29, 2014 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, you didn't seem to be too interested when I posted the stories about the feds purchasing about 2 BILLION rounds of hollow point pistol ammo to distribute to federal agencies who normally aren't even armed up. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/02/17/Feds-Buy-2-Billion-Rounds-Of-Ammunition

And you didn't seem too interested when the stories came out about the feds up arming local and state police departments with military arms and armored transports..APCs.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/17056-obama-flooding-u-s-streets-with-weapons-of-war-for-local-police
http://store.cato.org/reports/overkill-rise-paramilitary-police-raids-america

And, you didn't seem too interested when O'Bomber said we need a civilian security force just as well trained and funded as our military. He's been militarizing police departments for more than 5 years. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y

Just who in the hell did you think all those arms and ammo were intended to be used against?

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shura
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posted June 30, 2014 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not interested? Me? I've been harping on this since I registered. Militarization of police forces has its roots in the war on drugs and can easily be traced back to the 80s. Refresh my memory, who was pres then? You would know and acknowledge this fact if you were genuinely concerned about militarization. But you are not. Your only interest is in bashing Obama. Militarization by a Repub = necessary and acceptable. Militarization by a Demo = Tyranny!!

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jwhop
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posted July 01, 2014 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's see some proof that Ronald Reagan was pushing for militarization of municipal and state police forces!!!

Let's see some proof Ronald Reagan was selling or giving military equipment and hardware to local and state police forces.

This is exactly what the Marxist Messiah, O'Bomber IS doing.

You've got your wires crossed or your trolley car has jumped the track if you think I approve government at any level acquiring or using military type weapons systems in American cities...or against American citizens....no matter which political party is involved.

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shura
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posted July 01, 2014 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You could start with the 1981 Military Cooperation With Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies Act. Before terrorism was the designated bogeyman, Mexican drug Cartels were the preferred excuse. Think back to those innocent blissful 80s and you will recall the media obsession with drug lords sending their paramilitary forces into the US. Of course, we needed to bolster our local police forces to meet the attack. That's when the swat teams were bulked up, the armored personnel vehicles began rolling in, etc. This has been a slow boil maneuver.

Would you care to discuss the ADL's involvement in this? I know how you love the Israelis.

Jwhop, deep in your heart you know right from wrong better than anyone here (except for me, naturally ) but you've been blinded by the false repub demo paradigm.

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shura
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posted July 05, 2014 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
are you googling, Jwhop?

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jwhop
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posted July 05, 2014 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, Reagan signed that law into force in December 1981. But, that law permitted the DOD to render assistance to law enforcement agencies combatting the drug trade.

I couldn't find anything suggesting Reagan permitted the military to sell or give local or federal police agencies surplus military hardware. That happened...apparently after Reagan.

It is undeniable that Kommander Korruption, aka Bill Clinton permitted the use of military hardward...tanks against the Branch Davidian compound.

It's even more undeniable that O'Bomber has vastly expanded the sale and gifting of surplus military hardware to local, state and federal police agencies. These guys are better equipped with military hardware than most national armies..with the exception of aircraft.

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Faith
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posted July 09, 2014 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hardly anyone complained about the formation of these paramilitary forces...few people cared about Triple Canopy and Blackwater (Xe...whatever it's called now) going overseas and blowing people away. Amazingly no one foresaw that it was only a matter of time before these kinds of groups were deployed domestically, with increasing regularity.

We've been steadily headed in this direction for years now.

I just feel horrible for the children especially, in homes broken into by SWAT teams.

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jwhop
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posted July 11, 2014 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Hardly anyone complained about the formation of these paramilitary forces..."

Generally true Faith but I well remember the nationwide condemnation when Kommander Korruption, aka, Bill Clinton used military hardware...tanks, against the Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas and killed about 87 Americans...many of them children.

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