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jwhop
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posted August 18, 2014 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Collapse of the Liberal World Order
The Iraq War is over, and the squeegee men return to New York.
Jeffrey Lord
8.14.14

President Obama has ended the Iraq War.” So says the White House blog, the headline preserved in the amber that is the Internet. The date: October 21, 2011 at 2:18 Eastern Daylight Time. Along with a video of the president saying this, a statement on the site has been helpfully provided, partially excerpted here:

In 2008, in the height of the presidential campaign, then-Senator Obama made a promise to give our military a new mission: ending the war in Iraq.

As the election unfolded, he reiterated this pledge again and again — but cautioned that we would be “as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in.”…

Now, that promise will be wholly fulfilled. Today, President Obama announced that the rest of our troops will be home by the holidays.…

But this moment represents more than an accomplishment for the President. It marks a monumental change of focus for our military and a fundamental shift in the way that the our nation will engage in the world….

[As the President announced:] “The United States is moving forward, from a position of strength. The long war in Iraq will come to an end by the end of this year.”

Meanwhile, here at home the New York Post has headlined:

Squeegee men are back terrorizing NYC streets

For the unfamiliar, “squeegee men” are guys who swoop down on your car while you are stuck at a light or in traffic, and — unasked — briskly start wiping your windows and then demand cash. They were once upon a time seen as the personification of crime that ran rampant in New York City. They were banished by Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, who used them as a symbol of what had gone wrong in city after decades of liberal rule. Reports the Post:

They were the ultimate symbol of the lawlessness and blight of the 1980s and early 1990s — and now they’re making a comeback.

Squeegee men are menacing motorists across New York City, including spots near the Holland, Lincoln and Queens-Midtown tunnels, as well as the Queensboro Bridge, The Post has learned.

Residents and drivers who pass through the areas said the panhandlers are spraying and wiping windshields without permission to shake down drivers for cash.

Their sudden return is an ominous sign according to the proven “broken windows” theory that has kept the city safe by having cops crack down on minor offenses to prevent bigger, violent crimes.

Meanwhile, out in Chicago, fourteen people were shot and killed over the recent July 4th holiday weekend, with USA Today reporting that the “14 killed over the holiday weekend are among 82 shot in Chicago from late Thursday to early Monday morning.”

All this before the endless stories about someone somewhere in America losing their health coverage due to Obamacare, or the latest on Lois Lerner’s “lost” e-mails or the thirty-six year record low in the workforce participation rate and on and on.

What are Americans seeing here? What do the rise of ISIS in Iraq, the return of the squeegee men in New York, the murder numbers out of Chicago, the endless stories on health care losses, IRS bureaucrat Lois Lerner — what do all of these events have in common?

This is the fulfillment of the liberal worldview crashing in on itself. A view of utopia — all of it. Every last bit of it. It was never real — it could never be real.

Take for instance this jewel from then White House aide — and now CIA Director — John Brennan. Back in 2011 Brennan gave a speech on the Obama strategy in foreign policy, saying this:

Our strategy is also shaped by a deeper understanding of al-Qa’ida’s goals, strategy, and tactics. I’m not talking about al-Qa’ida’s grandiose vision of global domination through a violent Islamic caliphate. That vision is absurd, and we are not going to organize our counterterrorism policies against a feckless delusion that is never going to happen. We are not going to elevate these thugs and their murderous aspirations into something larger than they are.

Today, ISIS has declared itself precisely what Brennan assured was “absurd” — the headline from the Associated Press reading:

ISIS declares new Islamic caliphate

BAGHDAD — The Al Qaeda breakaway group that has seized much of northern Syria and huge tracks of neighboring Iraq formally declared the creation of an Islamic state on Sunday in the territory under its control.

The spokesman for the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, Abu Mohammed al-adnani, made the announcement in an audio statement posted online. Islamic extremists have long dreamed of recreating the Islamic state, or caliphate, that ruled over the Middle East in various forms for hundreds of years.

Abu Mohammed al-Adnani declared the group’s chief, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, as the new leader, or caliph, of the Islamic state, and called on those living in areas under the organization’s control to swear allegiance to al-Baghdadi and support him.

As if this weren’t enough to illustrate the inanity of the liberal “visionary” in the White House, did you catch the name of the new “caliph” of the Islamic caliphate that couldn’t possibly exist? That would be Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. And who is he?

Yes, that’s right. This is the very same Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi who was being held at Camp Bucca, a one-time U.S. military prison in Umm Qasr near Basra, Iraq. Al-Baghdadi spent four years at Camp Bucca and then…he was released in 2009. The Washington Post reported the closing of Camp Bucca this way: “In Iraq, Chaos Feared as U.S. Closes Prison.”

And as al-Baghdadi was freed he said to his American captors: “I’ll see you guys in New York.” Today, al-Baghdadi is leading ISIS. Oh, and by the way? Camp Bucca was closed and won a glowing review recently in the New York Times not only because it was closed in the Obama-era — it’s now a hotel. With a project member boasting that “We are trying to create a more homey atmosphere” than was provided the previous occupants — like the now-head of ISIS. Really. You can’t make it up. Perhaps when Mr. al-Baghdadi gets finished swallowing the rest of Iraq he can come for a stay.

This is what the Liberal World Order looks like. A breathtaking naïveté compounded with an addiction to a utopian view in which, with just this or that twist of the right dial, life can be perfected by imperfect human beings.

It never works, of course, because it can’t work. Yet that never stops those who loudly profess they believe in “science” — which is supposed to be evidence-based — but refuse to understand the evidence of history.

Evil exists. The real world exists. Wishing it weren’t so, not to mention pretending that it isn’t so is a dangerously foolhardy venture that inevitably can only bring tragedy.

Yet here we have President Obama playing the role of what a friend of mine called a “mystic dreamer.” Standing there in the White House proclaiming that he has “ended the Iraq War.” Sending out his terrorism adviser and soon-to-be CIA director to ridicule the notion of an Islamic caliphate as “absurd.” Releasing al-Baghdadi — thoroughly under American control — only to find out that he has vanished into the crowd and has now reappeared as the “caliph” of the global caliphate that could never, according to liberal scripture, be possible.

On the domestic front, this is the same kind of “mystic dreaming” by lesser liberals — mayors in New York and Chicago, Secretaries of Health and Human Services, IRS bureaucrats and more — that have produced exactly the results others not caught up in all this utopian mumbo-jumbo predicted they would create.

Newsflash: President Obama did not end the war in Iraq — he has revved it up. That global caliphate is headed by a man that any rational observer would never have released from prison in the first place. In New York, the squeegee men rousted by Mayor Giuliani have returned under the reign of Mayor de Blasio — not coincidentally nicknamed “Red Bill.” In Chicago, the mayor possessed about gun control has seen 82 people shot in one holiday weekend. And on and on it goes.

Make no mistake. This is all of a piece. This is what happens when Americans fall for someone who sees himself as destined to change the world by just pretending reality doesn’t exist.

The president has ended the war in Iraq? The idea of a global caliphate is “absurd”? Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is released from a military prison, the prison is closed and turned into a hotel? In this day and age of the legalization of marijuana, perhaps that old stand-by question from the 1960s should be asked of those responsible: “What are they smoking?!”
http://spectator.org/articles/60245/collapse-liberal-world-order

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fishbull11
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posted August 19, 2014 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fishbull11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, not sure what they were smoking back in the W years:

- No WMD found
- Instability left to grip the region
- 7 figure contractors made into 8 figures on Your jwhop dime (still not paid for)
- Utter mess left for others to deal with
- War that shouldn't have happened to clean up what his Daddy didn't do
- Numerous tortures techniques which netted nothing viable

Sounds like "mission accomplished to me", I can still see that BS ridiculous banner now.

Bin Laden dead...that's mission accomplished, DOW brought back from 6000 to 17,000...that's mission accomplished, unemployment drops 4+%...that's mission accomplished.

Closing down vital bridges, bashing gays, abusing power strong arming political enemies, Koch money going far up your nose, federal government shutdown making us the laughing stock of the world..not mission accomplished. Welcome to your own party Jwhoper.

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jwhop
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posted August 19, 2014 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your recollection of events in Iraq is faulty...or deliberately false.

When Bush left office, Iraq was quiet. There were fewer shootings in all of Iraq than there were in Chicago, IL.

There was a status of forces agreement in place between the US and Iraq...until your little Marxist Messiah, O'Bomber tried to change the terms of the agreement. Iraqis told the Marxist Messiah to stuff it.

O'Bomber knew for more than a year terrorists were massing and training in parts of Syria and Iraq. The Marxist Messiah did nothing...except sit mute with his thumb up his rectum. This idiot called ISIS the Junior Varsity team. Now, we have tens of thousands of dead Iraqis, thousands of kidnapped and raped women, and about 1/3rd of Iraq under terrorist control.

Nice going Marxist Messiah. Your campaign to reduce the power and influence of the US in the Middle East...and the rest of the world is a huge success!

I'm sure the families of those murdered and raped Iraqi citizens are singing your praises every day.

There has never been a more bungling, incompetent, ineffective president of the US than Barack Hussein O'Bomber, the Marxist Messiah.

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jwhop
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posted August 19, 2014 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"It's not that liberals/leftists are ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
Ronald Reagan

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fishbull11
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posted August 20, 2014 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fishbull11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iraq 1/1/2008: A suicide bomber kills 30 people at a home where mourners were paying their respects to the family of a man killed in a car bomb.

Iraq 2/1/08: At least 65 people die when two women suicide bombers attack crowded pet markets in eastern Baghdad.

Iraq 2/24/08: More than 50 people, who are headed to the shrine of Imam Hussein in Karbala to celebrate Arbaeen, are killed in a suicide attack at a rest stop.

Iraq 6/17/2008: At least 60 people are killed and about 75 are wounded when an explosive-laden minibus explodes at a bus terminal near a crowded market in a Shiite district of Baghdad. The blast causes an apartment building to burst into flames. The U.S. military attributes the bombing to a Shiite militia leader, Haydar Mehdi Khadum al-Fawadi, saying he orchestrated the bombing to incite sectarian violence between Sunnis and Shiites.

Do these events sound like stability and "mission accomplished" to you? You're misinformed, he left an unstable region and unstable state with hardly a puppet government to run it.

On yeah I forgot your hatest war mongering point of view, occupation of 50,000+ troops, American not Iraqi military lives at stake and billions of American tax dollars is always the answer right? Sure keep those backdoor blank checks rolling into those who really need to perpetuate their already ridiculous wealth.

Afghanistan Military Deaths
US UK OTHER TOTAL
2001: 12, 0, 0, 12
2002: 49, 3, 18, 70
2003: 48, 0, 10, 58
2004: 52, 1, 7, 60
2005: 99, 1, 31, 131
2006: 98, 39, 54, 191
2007: 117, 42, 73, 232
2008: 155, 51, 89, 295

2013: 127, 9, 24, 160
2014: 40, 6, 11, 57
(troop withdrawals both years)

See a trend developing? Your boy W took his eye off where terrorists were really taking hold to clean up his Daddy's botched job. Oh yeah I forgot it takes 10,000 of troops and billions of dollars to get it done...not true as 2013 and 14 show.

Iraq was bound to end up the way it is today whether McCain, Romney or whoever took over due to a poorly planned, executed and botched war plan that should have never happened. Rumsfeld's head even rolled it was such a s*hit job by W's presidency (or should I say D*ck's presidency).

It was a personal war due to stark criticism of his Daddy's botched job and lost second term, they misled the public to make it happen, robbed tax payers to pay already wealthy contractors ridiculous blank checks and 10+ years later the place is an utter mess. You're really going to sit there and defend those events and the people responsible? You're delusional at best.

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jwhop
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posted August 20, 2014 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So where did you get the information you posted? What's the attribution?

Anyone can say anything but you can back it all up...with the link to your source.

More People Shot And Killed In Chicago Than In Iraq
September 5th, 2008
CBS 2 Chicago has the details…

An estimated 125 people were shot and killed over the summer. That’s nearly double the number of U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq over the same time period.

In May, cbs2chicago.com began tracking city shootings and posting them on Google maps. Information compiled from our reporters, wire service reports and the Chicago Police Major Incidents log indicated that 125 people were shot and killed throughout the city between the start of Memorial Day weekend on May 26, and the end of Labor Day on Sept. 1.

According to the Defense Department, 65 U.S. soldiers were killed in combat in Iraq. About the same number were killed in Afghanistan over that same period.

In the same time period, an estimated 247 people were shot and wounded in the city.
http://forum4.aimoo.com/aolpoliticsboard/Politics/More-Peo ple-Shot-And-Killed-In-Chicago-Than-In-Iraq-1-2011473.html

Leftists have to face the facts that on every substantive issue, your little Marxist Messiah O'Bomber has his head so far up his ass he can't see daylight.

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