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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 57174 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted September 10, 2014 12:18 PM If Cat is Jewish, she is a Jew who wants to destroy her homeland, Israel. Israel is the only place Jews can go when/if the whole world turns against them. Look around, Friends. IT IS HAPPENING! She is like NO Jew I have ever met. In my entire life history of being Jewish, no Jew EVER talked with such Jew hatred as she does ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 57174 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted September 10, 2014 12:25 PM Actually, I have to say I am wrong. John Kerry had Jewish grandparents, who came over from Russia, and he wants to destroy Israel, so I stand corrected ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 57174 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted September 10, 2014 12:32 PM WOW PS You are amazing person and if I could send you a present I would, just for giving me a dose of joy today. Blessings to you, Friend! You are a wonderful addition to GU ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 2234 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013	posted September 10, 2014 12:33 PM http://www.salon.com/2009/04/14/christian_nation/ Anyway I agree we all need to speak up, wherever we see fit. The school you mention sounds like a great starting point. I would not go into a radical mosque and try to reason with them. Nor will I stand by and watch the small steps being shrugged off. I am of Jewish and Irish descent. I know what persecution is and I will neither support it nor allow others to practice it as far as is in my power. But too late? Not unless people hide behind their fear...way too early to throw in the towel IMO. IP: Logged
PlutoSurvivor Moderator Posts: 1039 From: USA Registered: Sep 2011	posted September 10, 2014 12:49 PM This is a good conversation. Thanks for participating but the question still stands, how do we prevent foreigners from subjugating us in our own country? Here is a bit of wisdom from an immigrant elderly man I know, "in our country we mooooo like a strong bull, but when we are in somebody else's country we moooo like a cow"" meaning when you adopt another country you must follow their ways and be raised in that country's ways. IP: Logged
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 2234 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013	posted September 10, 2014 01:02 PM We do it one step at a time. Where we see things like at your school, we go to bat for the rights of everyone not just the pushy few. If we see our govt preparing to cave, we speak up. This is easiest at the local level but can be carried further. Each person has to decide what size bite he can chew and go for it. If it comes down to it we fight them off. It is true that the majority prefer to do nothing until it is forced on them. Then there are those who see monsters in every shadow and even at a harmonious dinner table...and with "pre-emptive strikes" create a battle that would never have been necessary if they didn't create it. You know the type... So we walk the line between the comatose and the panicmongers. Daily. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 57174 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted September 10, 2014 01:14 PM This is a good conversation. Thanks for participating but the question still stands, how do we prevent foreigners from subjugating us in our own country? Cata likes to try to confuse the other person when she is asked a simple question a la---Tell me HOW my historical facts on Israel are wrong? I took a logic class in high school. When you are dealing with someone wants to obfuscate and confuse, you NEVER let them take you off the topic because that is what they are trying to do You never respond to a name they call you because they are trying to insult you and make you defensive, so you will get off topic. You keep repeating the question!!! Then, you will see they have no answer they want to tell you Just so you know what you are dealing with, PS ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 2234 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013	posted September 10, 2014 01:32 PM As I see it it is not only Islam we have to look out for but all who would silence those who dissent . IP: Logged
PlutoSurvivor Moderator Posts: 1039 From: USA Registered: Sep 2011	posted September 10, 2014 01:35 PM Sorry Ami I'm only interested in the opinions being shared in this conversation, not necessarily in being told who someone is or who someone is not. I'm not "dealing" with anyone or anything in particular, just expressing my own thoughts and enjoying the awareness that results from the response. I hope many people become aware of their own convictions based on reading this thread. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 57174 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted September 10, 2014 01:39 PM quote: Originally posted by Catalina: *As I see it it is not only Islam we have to look out for but all who would silence those who dissent* .** This makes no sense is not germane to the conversation LOL ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
PlutoSurvivor Moderator Posts: 1039 From: USA Registered: Sep 2011	posted September 10, 2014 01:40 PM Thanks for looking out for me though. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 57174 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted September 10, 2014 01:41 PM quote: Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor: Sorry Ami I'm only interested in the opinions being shared in this conversation, not necessarily in being told who someone is or who someone is not. I'm not "dealing" with anyone or anything in particular, just expressing my own thoughts and enjoying the awareness that results from the response. I hope many people become aware of their own convictions based on reading this thread. Yes, that would be nice! ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 57174 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted September 10, 2014 01:55 PM quote: Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor: Thanks for looking out for me though. You are very gracious and you are welcome ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
PlutoSurvivor Moderator Posts: 1039 From: USA Registered: Sep 2011	posted September 10, 2014 02:21 PM Becoming aware of your own convictions is important. How much can we speak out in a way that doesn't inhibit our own individual freedom? This is another question focusing on each person's individual life experience. This is what I really wanted to discuss. What can you as an individual do to prevent potential holocost, as an example, without being attacked, jailed, silenced, brainwashed into passivity? Personally I am willing to present this topic for conversation to bring awareness. But I'm not sure what further I am able to do. I mean what i would choose to do? That's why I'm asking. I would like to know how far Americans are willing to go to defend America. It is an illusion to think this will not escalate or that it will go away. The momentum is increasing. Here's a personal story. I know someone who married a man and years into the marriage he was convinced to convert and became Muslim. He gave his wife an ultimatum, "you must choose to be Muslim or our marriage is over" How is that forcefulness acting from love? She left. It was the right thing to do. I'm not promoting an internal war against all Muslims, that's absurd, and discriminating, but fighting against those who impose their ways on the peaceful majority is worth it IMO. Please, everyone, wake up to what is going on around you, in religion, government, schools, healthcare especially, and start making choices when confronted with a violation of your rights, to speak up and do the right thing. IP: Logged
PlutoSurvivor Moderator Posts: 1039 From: USA Registered: Sep 2011	posted September 10, 2014 02:26 PM Plus, always ask. Always ask why you are being told to do things a different way which force you to relinquish your freedoms or rights. Ask why. IP: Logged
PlutoSurvivor Moderator Posts: 1039 From: USA Registered: Sep 2011	posted September 10, 2014 02:32 PM Oh, and this man in the story... He also said to the wife, now the ex-wife, "You will be sorry. Muslims are going to rule the entire world some day. If you are not Muslim you will die" This is their agenda. IP: Logged
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 2234 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013	posted September 10, 2014 02:43 PM And how is your relative dealing with these importunate Muslims? Can you discuss this or are they intent on taking the path of least resistance? What say the other parents? This is a microcosmic situation at a level where personal influence can be felt. Voting is another way to "speak"... As to "their" agenda it is not shared by all Muslims. And being Muslim is not enough for some, you must be the kind they demand. But the majority just want to live and let live. And many are working, covertly, to undermine the militants. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 57174 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted September 10, 2014 03:26 PM quote: Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor: Oh, and this man in the story... He also said to the wife, now the ex-wife, "You will be sorry. Muslims are going to rule the entire world some day. If you are not Muslim you will die" This is their agenda. Exactly. By the time people wake up, it will be too late BUT it can't be stopped. It is a fait accompli ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 57174 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted September 10, 2014 03:34 PM However, I am walking on air. I went out to lunch with my son and someone thought I was his girlfriend, so you all can insult me for a few days and I won't care ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 2234 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013	posted September 10, 2014 04:40 PM My fellow Americans, please stop being idiots Sep 10, 2014 7:23am PDT by�Mark Sumner 293�266 There's a poll out showing that Americans are�scared: The nation is on edge in the wake of brutal beheadings of journalists by Islamic extremists � with more Americans saying the United States is less safe now than at any point since 9/11, a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll shows. You know what that poll shows, Americans? It shows that the terrorists won. You are giving them everything they wanted. You are terrorized. Look, I've said it before and I still believe every word. ISIS represents�no threat to the United States. None. Are there terrorists in this world who would like to give us a bloody nose? Absolutely. You know what? You've already surrendered an astounding amount of your personal privacy in the name of enabling agencies to reduce that threat. Stop being so eager to bend over and give the little that remains. You're already going through ridiculous rituals at airports and government offices and museums and bus stations and football stadiums and probably at the local Gymboree, all designed to give you the illusion of safety at an immense cost in both time and money. You've already given up everything from the privacy of your phone calls and emails to the ability to take some shampoo on the road. Don't get out the checkbook to buy more nonsense. And hey, you've already left more Americans on the battlefield created by our shaking-in-our-boots cowardice than any terrorists might have hoped. You've already built a momument to our fear that's measured in a mound of bodies on both sides that would dwarf the Great Pyramid. Stop making our service people, and innocents on the ground, sacrifices to your ill-defined "they're out to get me"-itis. Please read below the fold for more on this story. You people have all been in the internet for awhile now. Haven't you learned the first lesson?�Don't feed the trolls.�That's what a terrorist is at heart, an ***** playing you for a reaction. Someone who gets off, not on the things he is doing, but on seeing how badly those things upset you. And what does a troll do when you react?�Something worse. So why are you in such a hurry to give them exactly what they want? Beating your chests and threatening to spend a billion-trillion-zillion dollars? That's not scaring terrorists. That'sempowering them�by treating them like a much more serious threat than they actually represent. Threatening to drop more Americans right there where they can be killed by the thousands? Please. You're making them drool. Understand, they don't care if they lose on the battlefield. Winning the battle means nothing. Khe Sahn was a battlefield victory. Hell, every battle of the Iraq invasion was a victory. How'd that work out for you? Going to war in this situation only shows that you've surrendered the only thing that is an actual weapon against terrorists: reason. Please, people, root through your old VHS tapes and unearth your copy of�Wargames. Now, fast forward to the end where you can hear the wisdom of a computer with the brain power of an old Atari cartridge:�the only winning move, is not to play. �Let the **** �feed on each other�for a change. You want to go over to Iraq and rescue people who are endangered by ISIS? Absolutely. I'm right there with you. In fact, I'm serious about that. Call me. I'll pay for that. I'll support that. I'll go. The United States really needs to stop preaching to other countries about accepting refugees and take in more of the world's mistreated and displaced, including the ones right on our doorstep. But you think that engaging in more military conflict is going to make things better? Unlike the last time. Or the time before that. Or the time before that ... no. Stop it. The only threat to America is the threat being generated by Americans. I'd very much like to think that the president will address the nation with the immortal phrase, "grow up." �But no, that's not going to happen. Instead, we're going to act because, God help us all, the people demand action. The media demands action. And of of course Congress needs action so it knows what it's against. Just a little thought: did anyone bother to ask the families of those journalists who were used as propaganda tools by the terrorists in order to generate just this reaction, if they think this is what either of those journalists would have wanted? If the families feel this is an appropriate memorial to the genuinely brave men who were lost? Ah, hell. You know, I started posting on this site in 2003. And here it is again** IP: Logged
PlutoSurvivor Moderator Posts: 1039 From: USA Registered: Sep 2011	posted September 10, 2014 04:41 PM quote: Originally posted by Catalina: And how is your relative dealing with these importunate Muslims? Can you discuss this or are they intent on taking the path of least resistance? What say the other parents? Exactly. Taking the path of least resistance, so as not to offend. Not to appear discriminatory. Yet they complain and feel as though they are being controlled. They do not realize they have choice to not allow. As a whole we all do this every day. We allow as to not offend because this is what we are told. We are also brainwashed. We allow without asking " is this fair?" "Is this right?" "Why?" "Where will this lead?" I don't think all the families know what is going on. This is an institution, privately owned, but an institution none the less. There are still politics. There are inspections, gov standards, grant guidelines. Things could become difficult. In the beginning these families could have been warned or else been excluded but nobody is aware. In the beginning there could have been rules set by the school, but once allowed it becomes more difficult to change. ALLOW is the key word. IP: Logged
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 2234 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013	posted September 10, 2014 04:46 PM Well that is the consequence of the belief "they can't be stopped" and "it's too late"...Fiddlesticks! Fear and hatred equally paralyze. Attempting to bomb them out of existence wont work either. Your relative should sell their school to someone with the balls to run it...or grow a pair. And yes, you are right.Allow is the operative word. However the trick is to realize one has choiceS. The kneejerk choice of preemptive violence only breeds more violence as MLK and Ghandi pointed out. The attempt to demonize all Muslims is every bit as strong - and fear-based - as the choice to rollover. Neither wins the day and both cause unnecessary harm. Meanwhile we are distracted from travesties at home by all the saber-rattling over others' quarrels. I hope your relative can move past their inertia before it is too late for their school. That sounds like a concrete situation where you could make a difference if you don't give in to "its too late". Think what would have happened if all the Resistance fighters had decided it was too late! Its not over till its over. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 57174 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted September 10, 2014 05:15 PM Its not over till its over. It is over. One day, when you SEE it is over, look up and say, "Hey Ami, you were right" because I will be. I take no joy in saying this but I have no power, nor do you or does anyone. It is a behemoth and it is inexorable. ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
PlutoSurvivor Moderator Posts: 1039 From: USA Registered: Sep 2011	posted September 10, 2014 07:02 PM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: It is over. One day, when you SEE it is over, look up and say, "Hey Ami, you were right" because I will be. IP: Logged
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 2234 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013	posted September 10, 2014 08:23 PM Yet they complain and feel as though they are being controlled. They do not realize they have choice to not allow. I come from a long line of people who surmounted supposedly impossible experiences and challenges. You can cede the battle if you CHOOSE. But choice IS the operative word. IP: Logged

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