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Randall
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posted September 12, 2014 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bush is who I had in mind, since he is the subject of the article, but that would extend to any President.

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Randall, it the for the compare/contrast of Hitler vs Bush OR for the compare/contrast of Hitler to any POTUS?


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Ami Anne
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posted September 12, 2014 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thing I tried to stress on the other thread that is germane to this one(big word alert for Cata ) is that there were and are thousands of Hitlers.

I hate when people demonize Hitler, even though he should be, of course.

What Hitler DID he only good do because of the "good Germans"

So, people should look at THIS and take the lesson from this and DON'T BE A GOOD GERMAN.

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posted September 12, 2014 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you see evil, CALL it evil and stand up.

In Denmark, everyone including the King put on the gold star and no Danish Jews were killed.

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posted September 12, 2014 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop by saying "they are both "Socialists" (opinion not proven fact). you have compared them. Now would you like to give us an example of Contrast?

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posted September 12, 2014 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"Bush abused his power"?

You must be delusional.

Bush got a joint resolution of Congress to fight terrorism and also got a joint resolution of Congress to remove Saddam Hussein.

Bush also got a UN resolution which promised severe consequences for Saddam if he didn't immediately live up to his "cease fire" agreement.

Saddam didn't and he got those severe consequences the UN resolution promised.

"Bush abused his power"
Bullshiiit.

Bush is about as far from Hitler as it's possible to get. Only in the minds of delusional leftists....who are attempting to protect and defend their little Marxist Messiah O'Bomber, is Bush anything like Hitler.

Btw, Hitler was a Socialist. Just like delusional leftists...the usual suspects and accidental Americans.

It's disgusting and contemptible for an idiot teacher to assign homework based on a comparison between Bush and Hitler. This moron teacher should be fired and their teaching credentials yanked.

Stop trying to defend your Marxist Messiah with blithering idiocy.


I can't take it. These people are gonna make me drink

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posted September 12, 2014 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heres a famous example. Apples and oranges.
They are both fruit= comparison
One has seeds and sections in the flesh. The other has no sections and seeds only at the core = contrast.

Without exception the headlines of the reports on this use only COMPARE which makes a big difference to the understsnding of the assignment if we dont assume what hasnt been divulged...what did those texts, both approved separately by the school ...actually say about these two men. We can see that the teacher has said Bush abused his power going into Iraq (debatable) but we don't KNOW anything else.

I am appealing for cool heads as opposed to going off halfcocked at a half-told story...nothing more. Not arguing the merits of the assignment.

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posted September 12, 2014 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Heres a famous example. Apples and oranges.
They are both fruit= comparison
One has seeds and sections in the flesh. The other has no sections and seeds only at the core = contrast.

Without exception the headlines of the reports on this use only COMPARE which makes a big difference to the understsnding of the assignment if we dont assume what hasnt been divulged...what did those texts, both approved separately by the school ...actually say about these two men. We can see that the teacher has said Bush abused his power going into Iraq (debatable) but we don't KNOW anything else.

I am appealing for cool heads as opposed to going off halfcocked at a half-told story...nothing more. Not arguing the merits of the assignment.


He did that.

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posted September 12, 2014 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Talking to jwhop thanks I am sure he can speak for himself.

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posted September 12, 2014 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Bush is who I had in mind, since he is the subject of the article, but that would extend to any President.


thanks. I figured it would have been any POTUS but you know whats said about assuming

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posted September 12, 2014 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Talking to jwhop thanks I am sure he can speak for himself.


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posted September 12, 2014 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The Washington D.C. school system is on the defensive after one of its sixth-grade teachers reportedly asked students to compare and contrast former President George W. Bush and Adolf Hitler.

Bush and Hitler are irrelevant in this situation. The irresponsibility of putting such thoughts into young children's minds is what we have to worry about. The age appropriateness for this lesson was obviously a mistake, most likely with an intent of bringing awareness, but in no way are 6th graders able to think through comparisons like this on their own.

This is how it all begins - indoctrinating young children who cannot think for themselves. They can only make wrong assumptions at this age. Children have always been known to repeat what parents and/or adult role models have to say.

let's take a look at our entire educational system. Are we school teachers or mind programmers? It's a tricky business, institutionalized learning. The teachers have been in this same institutional system their entire lives...
preschool, grade school, jr. high/middle school, high school, college, grad school. They are all programmed to program. It's very rare you get a teacher who has been educated outside the system, educated in the institution of life. Perhaps an evening school professor, or private school teacher, but never in mandatory public school system.

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posted September 12, 2014 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My intent is not to criticize the teachers. [fyi, i have earned a teaching degree]
my intent is to bring awareness to how vulnerable our children are attending school. This one mistake has caused much harm.

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posted September 13, 2014 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It appears that no one here was ever taught how to read a news story that uses a "shocking" headline to distort the facts.

I guess jwhop can't bring himself to utter how Hitler and Obama can be CONTRASTED.

I dont know any public schools who bring Hitler and the Nazis into 6th grade. It iS age inappropriate but we don't know what the texts were so we are responding to half a story.

Both were elected. Both invaded other countries on false pretexts swallowed by the majority. Both were in their forties. And both were backed by the Bush family.

Hitler was a stirring speaker by all account, Bush not. Hitler was raised Catholic, Bush not. Hitler created Jewish ghettos and sent people to concentration camps. Bush did not.

Heinous, right?

Perhaps teacher was trying to kill the connection many people made between Bush and Hitler. Do we know enough to judge that? No.

Still not age appropriate but the assumptions and righteous indignation based on half truths is dangerous.

People recoil at the very name Hitler. Programmed reaction to this story GUARANTEED apparently.

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posted September 27, 2014 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dubya committed serious mistakes that destroyed the US Economy but he was not anti-Muslim nor anti-Semitic. He broke bread with the Saudis. He was ill advised by the Neo Cons, hence he dragged America into the illegitimate Iraq Invasion, whereas he should have stopped with Afghanistan. Unknowingly, he wrecked the image of America in the rest of the civilized world.

Obama continued the economic mistakes but improved the image of USA in the civilized world through his eloquence. But he does not have any adviser, he has to to take all the bouquets or brickbats. His mistakes in Libya and Syria are well known.

Both Bush and Obama won two terms but Obama won handsomely and without controversy.
Hitler "stole" elections and was an unapologetic mass murdered who invaded for the sake of Nazi German "Living Space".

It is inconceivable to compare and contrast Hitler with either Bush or Obama. It was a huge mistake on the part of the teacher as the subliminal message that will enter the subconscious minds of the children is that Bush and Hitler are similar, even though in the conscious mind they would be contrasting.

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