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Topic: Terrorist or Patriot?
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Catalina Knowflake Posts: 2470 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 30, 2014 05:17 PM
He fired over a 100 rounds in ten minutes. He tried to burn down the Mexican consulate. He apparently was wearing a suicide vest. He had bombs in his car. He shot at police.Unless you read the Austin Statesman story on him. Then you might feel differently: "Larry Steven McQuilliams, the shooter who opened fire on several downtown Austin buildings Friday morning, had moved to Austin a year-and-a-half ago looking for a fresh start that he failed to find, one of his neighbors said. “He was a very kind person. Everyone in the building knew him,” Matlack said. “I think he was just frustrated at every turn.” Yeah. He loved bikes and puppies and let his neighbors use his workout equipment. Oh, and he tried to kill cops and blow up buildings. He didn't have "anti-government positions" People do that with protests and votes. HE WAS A TERRORIST. At least USA Today had it down: "AUSTIN, Texas — A white, middle-aged gunman, in what appears to be a politically motivated anti-government attack linked to immigration, fired more than a hundred rounds at buildings in downtown Austin early Friday and tried to set fire to the Mexican consulate before he died of a gunshot wound. Between about 2:20 a.m. and 2:30 a.m. CT, McQuilliams fired at several buildings in downtown Austin, including police headquarters and the federal courthouse. He also tried to torch the Mexican consulate using several small propane cylinders, but the fires were put out before the flames could spread, Acevedo said." Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., warned last week that an executive order on immigration by President Obama could spark "instances of anarchy" and "violence." Well, you got what you wanted, Tom. You and everybody like you. You fed the beast, enraged the beast and set the beast loose. Like Timothy McVeigh. Or Jerad Miller who "just happened" to be at Bundy Ranch and then just happened to kill cops. This is what six years of enraging people every day has created. Weaponized Americans. Human bombs. Terrorists. But because of their skin color, they will NEVER be called that. LikeLike · · Share 3 people like this. Margaret Benise-Kissell It works both ways, they enrage blacks all the time, like ferguson and so we get the riots and burning of american flags etc. They want us a country divided and we need to stop pointing fingers and see whyyyyy. 31 mins · Like Kevin Greek it wasn't a suicide vest, nor were there bombs in the car, according to the last official report i heard. as far as the line "apparently in a suicide vest'...well, no reason to include a non fact unless you're committing the logic faux pas of appeal to emotion. 6 mins · Like IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 2470 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 30, 2014 05:26 PM
http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/videos/watch-black-man-harrassed-for-walking-with-his-hands-in-his-pockets-on-a-frigid-michigan-day-video/ Text as well in case vids are a problem! IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4827 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 08, 2014 08:53 AM
The modernized "lynching" that is going on in America right now is a strategy inspired from the General Elections in India. The Right Wing party named BJP steam rolled the moderate competition within to install the man who fiddled when a genocide was carried out against Indian Muslims in Gujarat. His right hand man later instigated and polarized voters in crucial states, by exhorting voters to "Vote for Revenge" against Indian Muslims. No action was taken against him, the media was clearly bought through a billion dollars of ad spending. This polarized the 5% swing vote and saw the right wing party get a full majority in the parliament with just 30% vote share. To imagine what Muslims in India are feeling right now, it is like how African Americans in Texas would feel if the Ku Klux Klan won full majority in both Houses, ahead of Republicans and Democrats, by claiming that they will eradicate unemployment, stop corruption and create economic growth. Now, by instigating the African Americans through police brutality and biased juries, the dark Establishment is creating the fear of retaliation from African Americans in the minds of undecided voters. The instigation may grow exponentially, to ensure every peaceful protest turns violent. One may ask, why bother when the Republicans are likely to win the next Presidency with consummate ease? Well, this polarization is to ensure that a serious war monger wins the Republican Primaries, someone who can bring back Crude Prices to ridiculously high levels. The Dark Establishment clearly does not want a Romney or a Rand Paul leading the Republican Campaign. The good news for America is that the lynching of innocent African Americans will subside after the elections. But it will be a peace of the graveyard. I hope the protestors never resort to violence. They must keep up the Gandhian values of Non-Violence no matter how much the Establishment instigates. Meanwhile, the good people around the world need to speed up the Clean Energy campaigns. Not because of some Climate Change bogey but to bankrupt the Big Oil companies.
Let us all pray for the Crude Price to crash below 20 dollars a barrel. The best news last week was a breakthrough for producing Hydrogen using artificial photosynthesis, sea water and sunlight. This means China would never need a gallon of crude as fuel nor would India need a lump of coal for power ever again. That should do the trick. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 7773 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 09, 2014 09:08 AM
You usual suspects and O'Bomber Kool-Aid drinkers are really reaching again.So, some white guy opens up on police headquarters and the Mexican embassy and right away, that's supposed to offset all the Islamic terrorist attacks against America? Hey, let me point you to a real American communist terrorist bomber...and his terrorist wife. He's Bill Ayers and he and his terrorist wife are great buds with the Marxist Messiah, Barack Hussein O'Bomber...the worst president in US history. Btw, this story line on Larry McQuilliams is becoming suspect. The press is shunning this story so there must be something more to McQuilliams history that indicates he wasn't a right wing loon that leftists and leftist press activists love to bloviate about. There is almost NO information about this guy except he was a belly dancing fan. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 2470 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 09, 2014 01:59 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/12/04/3599271/austin-shooter-christian-extremism/?utm_source=partner&utm_medium=dk&utm_campaign=fb All the muslim attacks? No one has equated one attack with all of anything. ..except you. Do you think this is the first Christian Vigilante attack? The only one? Or that all Terrorists are Muslims?
For that matter where is the NRA push to arm blacks in Ferguson against trigger happy police? I wonder how enthused the conservative pundits would be to show a pic of armed black spokesmen ... a la the recent Palin/Nugent brigade portrait that raised so many cheers? IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 7773 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 09, 2014 02:56 PM
"Yet unlike the accusatory responses to domestic jihadist incidents such as the Fort Hood massacre, news of McQuilliams’ possible ties to the Christian Identity movement has yet to produce a reaction among prominent conservative Christians".I knew your little witch hunt was intended to equate white terrorism with Islamic terrorism. But wait, Think Progress is hardly a journalistic source. Further, these leftist cretins took a single unsubstantiated rumor about a so called Christian organization tract being found in the car and blew it up into an entire article about so called "Christian terrorism". Don't need no actual proof if you're a leftist. You get to make accusations then other leftists repeat them endlessly. After all, leftist truth is whatever you can make others believe. But, it's NO SALE here. I'll wait until some real reporting is done on this incident and it won't be Think Progress who will do any real reporting. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 2470 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 09, 2014 03:58 PM
From someone whose favourite journalism is an admittedly biased blog, fine empty words. From someone who said no one had any info on the subject, denial of same. Jwhop it matters not to me who inspires terrOrism but that some People insist Islam is the only religion that does so. In every situation where a white man goes berserk with arms you attribute it to loners with mental issues, but if they are Muslim or "leftist, " they are terrorists to you. In other words your mind is closed. The church murder of the abortion doctor was just rough justice to you. Conservatives need to arm themselves against the scary govt, but no one is suggesting the people of Ferguson should be armed. . Lets just admit that terrorists come in all flavours and all are criminals IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4827 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2014 02:26 PM
Once again, we see terrorism in Australia as well as Philadelphia. One is by a terrorist who claims to be Muslim,and the Neocons will wail and beat their chests against Islam. Yet, the Philadelphia killer is a War veteran, most likely one who claims to be following Christian. Does this mean Christianity supports terrorism ?! Was Jim Jones an Islamist?IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 7773 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2014 03:09 PM
"Yet, the Philadelphia killer is a War veteran, most likely one who claims to be following Christian. Does this mean Christianity supports terrorism ?! Was Jim Jones an Islamist?"Do you have a good working definition of "Christian"? Or, if someone says they're a Christian or the idiot press says they are or they were once seen driving past a so called Christian church, is that good enough for you? IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4827 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2014 06:37 AM
The same question can be asked for a good working definition of a Muslim. A terrorist who claims to be Muslim is not a Muslim. Period. Look at what happened in Peshawar today. Muslim kids died. 100+ of them. The line has been drawn. Taliban, Al-Qaeda, ISIL are non-Muslim, non-Humans. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 7773 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2014 11:02 AM
"Do you have a good working definition of "Christian"? Or, if someone says they're a Christian or the idiot press says they are or they were once seen driving past a so called Christian church, is that good enough for you?"...Me"The same question can be asked for a good working definition of a Muslim. A terrorist who claims to be Muslim is not a Muslim. Period. Look at what happened in Peshawar today. Muslim kids died. 100+ of them. The line has been drawn. Taliban, Al-Qaeda, ISIL are non-Muslim, non-Humans."..IQ I asked you 1st and you ducked, bobbed, weaved and evaded. So, in the future, how about this. Since you wouldn't know a "Christian" from a hole in the ground, why don't you refrain from using the word.."Christian"? As for your nonsense about Muslims, their bible, the Koran not only authorizes the killing of all humans who will not declare Allah is the one true god, it urges Muslims to do so. Now, if you want to argue that point with me, you can go find the verse(s) in the Koran which speaks to the sanctity of all human life...regardless of religious beliefs. Good luck with that! IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4827 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 17, 2014 06:38 AM
JWHop <<As for your nonsense about Muslims, their bible, the Koran not only authorizes the killing of all humans who will not declare Allah is the one true god, it urges Muslims to do so.Now, if you want to argue that point with me, you can go find the verse(s) in the Koran which speaks to the sanctity of all human life...regardless of religious beliefs. Good luck with that! >> Verse 2:256 clearly states that there is no compulsion in religion. And no verse orders the killing of all non-Muslims. Only one verse in chapter 9, orders the killing of polytheists of Mecca who attacked the Muslims. This verse is specific only to the time when the Prophet was alive. Sadly, this verse is taken out of context and used by terrorists to program their recruits to kill innocent people. These controversial "Sword Verses" in the Koran are from a chapter that does not start with "In the Name of God", meaning it could have been tampered, and these verses should have been abrogated in the 7th century itself. And even then, more problems are from the hearsay "hadiths", which is what terrorists who claim to be Muslims misinterpret for their diabolical ends. BTW, Anyone who thinks the Bible is better than Koran in sanctifying Human Life must have received a PhD in double standards. The Bible in some sections is like a book of horrors and a manual of terror, where there are commandments to slay even women and children. Joshua and company enjoyed the killing sprees that today even Taliban find difficult to match. Here is the documented evidence of genocide ordered in the Bible, the inspiration for Hitler: http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=21 Good luck with justifying the genocides of the Bible, an insult to Master Jesus Christ's way of Love and Forgiveness. When you point one finger at others, three point back. When you hate all Muslims, all "Christians" like you are destined for a rebirth as a Muslim. And in that lifetime, you will be hating Christians or Hindus or whatever and keep on reincarnating till you release the emotion of hatred.
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 7773 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 17, 2014 10:57 AM
"BTW, Anyone who thinks the Bible is better than Koran in sanctifying Human Life must have received a PhD in double standards.The Bible in some sections is like a book of horrors and a manual of terror, where there are commandments to slay even women and children. Joshua and company enjoyed the killing sprees that today even Taliban find difficult to match. Here is the documented evidence of genocide ordered in the Bible, the inspiration for Hitler:" IQ You show your ignorance of Christianity by equating Christian belief with stories from the Old Testament! Again, you know nothing about Christianity and should refrain from using the word..."Christian". The entire thrust of Islamic belief is that the whole world should be converted to Islam, by the sword or otherwise. Those who will not convert are to be killed. "Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "Qur’an:8:39 “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).” "Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah "Verse 2:256 clearly states that there is no compulsion in religion..."...IQ ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/biggrin.gif) So, let me ask...Verse 2:256 of WHICH Islamic writing? Oh, and why did you not post the actual wording of the verse, instead of merely attempting to paraphrase it? One last thing. You seem shockingly ignorant of the slaughter of tens of millions of Buddhists and Hindus by Muslims...in your own country! IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 2470 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 17, 2014 07:18 PM
I think, jwhop, that IQ knows the Quran a little better than you. and he is right that Christians read the Bible selectively.Would you say the Ten Commandments have nothing to do with Christianity? Who invaded whom in the Crusades? Who carried out the Inquisition? Who claims this country is based on JUDEO Christian values as in the Bible? IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 2470 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 17, 2014 07:20 PM
Why are you fighting with him anyway? He is as anti-terrorist as you, if not more so, and in a country where it is more dangerous to be so!IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 7773 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 17, 2014 10:50 PM
"I think, jwhop, that IQ knows the Quran a little better than you."Apparently not. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 2470 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 18, 2014 10:49 AM
Apparently so. He doesn't get specifically tailored and translated quotes from the internet sites that seek to scare you. He actually knows what's inside. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 8699 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 18, 2014 11:56 AM
A note of clarification. There isn`t any Quran numbered anything. ie: Qur’an:8:39 Muslim (1:33) "Verse 2:256 The Quran has "surah`s" much like the Bible has verses. Using the proper surah ensures correct translation. Surat At-Tawbah 9:29 is where any seeker will find the quote : "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Like so many Bible quotes thrown around, alone with out any context, it becomes what ever the person using it means. That said, please let`s not tread on any Holy book here and keep it between the lines of GU . ------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 47913 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 18, 2014 12:27 PM
Closing this.IP: Logged | |