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Randall
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posted October 20, 2015 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It will be a pleasure to see Clinton resoundedly defeated.

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posted October 22, 2015 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oct 20, 2015 @ 04:36 PM 1,997 views

Republicans As Disruptors: Unfortunately They're Not Uber Successful

The Republican Party is reinventing itself and so far the results are not pretty. Clearly no longer your father’s Republican Party, it is becoming a party of disruptors. The new conservative young turks in Congress, calling themselves the Freedom Caucus, have finally worn out Speaker John Boehner and have run off his apparent successor Congressman Kevin McCarthy. So far no one of any stature wants the job, and who can blame them, with 36 party disruptors right in your own backyard.

The same vibe continues to dominate the Republican presidential race, with disruptor-in-chief Donald Trump leading the field. Amazingly, the three candidates with zero experience in elected office—Trump, Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina—share a cumulative 54% in support against a collective 39% for all the other candidates who have held office. Even Jeb Bush, the ultimate establishment candidate, has been reduced to saying in Iowa that he wants to go to Washington to “disrupt the old order.” Apparently there’s no point in running this year unless you have a disruptor union card.

Unfortunately Republicans only get half the disruptor DNA. Silicon Valley companies have revolutionized one field after another with disruptive technology and business models. But the way they do it is by developing and investing in something new and bold which, as the effect and not the cause, disrupts existing business models. Take Uber as the classic example: Uber invented an entirely new way of transporting people around busy cities, providing greater convenience and comfort at affordable prices. As a consequence, the taxi industry has been entirely disrupted, and Uber has faced protests, demonstrations, lawsuits, and legislation. But Uber did not start the revolution by attacking the taxi industry, rather it built something new and improved that had a disruptive impact.

Here’s where conservatives and Republicans are missing the point: they seem focused first on disrupting government and politics as usual, but they offer nothing new or improved in its place. What has the Freedom Caucus accomplished in its first year? Essentially running off the House Republican leaders and threatening a government shutdown over funding Planned Parenthood. It’s similar to the record of its predecessor, the Tea Party Republicans, who shut down the government in 2013. They have no platform—instead their agenda is disrupting and taking over the levers of power.

But to disrupt an existing way of doing business, you need to offer a better way, and this has always been a challenge for conservatives. William F. Buckley, one of the founders of modern American conservatism, acknowledged that conservatives “stand athwart history yelling ‘stop.’” By contrast, a Democrat like Bernie Sanders throws out more new ideas in one debate than 15 Republican candidates combined. Of course, I would have loved to have seen a meter at the bottom of the television screen running the tab on Sanders’ proposals—by some estimates he would add $18 trillion to the federal budget—almost precisely the amount of the accumulated federal debt of $18.2 trillion.

To become known as a party of disruptors is basically to admit you prefer being a minority obstructionist party and you are not ready to lead Congress or the country. It will be a failed business model, with Republicans accomplishing nothing in Congress and losing the presidency. What will it take to turn this around? Wiser heads coming to the fore with some real policy ideas. Paul Ryan, who is as close to a policy wonk as Republicans have, needs to step up and become the new Speaker of the House. As the election draws nearer, voters need to appreciate that outsider candidates may sound good, but they don’t have any idea or experience in how to run a government for 300 million people. Already Marco Rubio has edged into the top three candidates in recent polls, with outsiders Trump peaking and Fiorina fading. In six months, the field needs to look entirely different or Republicans will have blown one more great opportunity to lead.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddavenport/2015/10/20/republicans-as-disruptors-unfortunately-theyre-not-uber/

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posted October 22, 2015 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent article and I hope Ryan takes the Speaker seat. He would do a great job and maybe even help reunite the scattered minds.

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posted October 22, 2015 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How the Republican Obsession With 'Free Stuff' Could Backfire

Some Republican strategists are urging the party's presidential candidates to dial back the rhetoric.

October 19, 2015 — 2:00 AM PDT

It has become a familiar Republican refrain. Senator Marco Rubio on Wednesday called the first Democratic debate a contest over “who was going to give away the most free stuff.” New Jersey Governor Chris Christie quipped Friday in New Hampshire, “There's gonna be more free stuff for more people than you can even imagine sitting and listening to Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton and the rest of the crew up there.”

Last month, Jeb Bush characterized Democrats' message to African-American voters as “get in line and we'll take care of you with free stuff.” A few days earlier, Senator Rand Paul mockingly accused Sanders of promising voters “free stuff.” In 2012, Republican presidential nominee-in-waiting Mitt Romney told a voter, “If you're looking for more free stuff, vote for the other guy.”

These aren't rhetorical coincidences—the language reflects the strongly held beliefs held by many in the GOP base that spending on safety-net programs should be slashed, and that the Democratic Party is powered by minority and immigrant voters who leech off the government.

“I think people need to tread carefully when it comes to that kind of language. We've had a long track record of Republican candidates characterizing the Democratic Party as offering voters free stuff. ... It hasn't seemed thus far to end well,” Republican strategist Patrick Ruffini said, citing Romney's “47 percent” comment to donors in 2012 and his later attribution of defeat to President Barack Obama as a result of the Democrat offering “gifts” to blacks, Hispanics, and young voters.

Ruffini argues that linking Democrats with free stuff “certainly will be a popular line in the Republican primary,” but doing so risks alienating minority voters, whom he said the language tends to be associated with, and with whom the GOP needs to improve its performance in order to win a general election. “You do kind of run the risk of slighting those groups of voters by saying they're only voting Democrat because they're being bribed,” Ruffini said. “So I think that aspect of it is not necessarily the most productive.”

Michael Steele, a former chairman of the Republican National Committee, said the GOP needs to be “less careless in our rhetoric” when it comes to low-income Americans.

“If you are a member of the working poor who's barely making ends meet and need some assistance—maybe food stamps, maybe child care—they don't consider that free stuff. They consider that necessary stuff so their family isn't broken up, so they're not sleeping in cars and park benches,” Steele said. “Be smart and careful about how you describe the plight of others, because there but for the grace of God go you. To judge their existence and how they're living their lives—we need to get out of that business and get in the business of offering self-empowerment and opportunities.”

The strategists' concern is that writing off public benefits as “free stuff” comes off as condescending to voters who are struggling economically and need help. In a candid postmortem of the 2012 election, the RNC said the “Republican Party needs to stop talking to itself” and “learn once again how to appeal to more people” outside its core ideological base. It urged future candidates to recognize that many Americans live in poverty. “To people who are flat on their back,” the RNC report said, “unemployed or disabled and in need of help, they do not care if the help comes from the private sector or the government—they just want help.”

'A racial flashpoint'

In 2013, the progressive research firm Democracy Corps conducted a half-dozen focus groups of Republican voters and spotted a trend that helps explain the profusion of “free stuff” rhetoric among conservatives. “They have an acute sense that they are white in a country that is becoming increasingly 'minority,' and their party is getting whooped by a Democratic Party that uses big government programs that benefit mostly minorities, create dependency and a new electoral majority,” the firm said in its report. “Barack Obama and Obamacare is a racial flashpoint for many Evangelical and Tea Party voters.”

Immigrants are also widely viewed on the right as beneficiaries of “free stuff.” By a margin of 73 to 17 percent, those identified as “steadfast conservatives” said immigrants “burden our country, taking jobs, housing and health care,” according to a Pew Research Center study released in June 2014. But that view is not shared by the larger U.S. population. In all, 57 percent said that immigrants “strengthen our country through hard work and talents” while 35 percent said they do not.

In 2012, Obama made mitigating income inequality a centerpiece of his campaign platform. Capitalizing on the nascent Occupy Wall Street movement, he painted Republicans as pawns of super-rich Americans who weren't paying their fair share in taxes. Conservatives responded by arguing that upper-income Americans pay most of the taxes and are subsidizing a bunch of moochers on the lower end of the spectrum.

This was the context in which Romney was captured on a hidden camera telling donors that “47 percent” of Americans will always vote Democrat—those “who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims” and won't “take personal responsibility and care for their lives.” The current crop of GOP candidates adopting the “free stuff” talking points may be appealing to Republican donors who feel slighted by Obama's calls for higher taxes on the rich to fund a larger safety yet.

Given that Clinton, the Democratic front-runner, and her main primary rivals are promising to protect and expand upon Obama's policies, its not surprising that the Republican backlash has portrayed that platform as consisting of government giveaways.

“There's a huge segment of the Republican base that's very worried about spending. That's where the Tea Party movement was born from,” said Katie Packer Gage, Romney's deputy campaign manager in 2012. For those voters, Gage said, the “free stuff” argument resonates.

“Democrats are trying to turn it into race warfare, but I think it's broader than any one race in this country,” Gage said. “It's an issue of, who doesn't want free stuff? We'd all take free stuff if it were offered to us, I think. And the question is: is that the role of the federal government?”

Democrats respond

Asked to respond, the Democratic National Committee dubbed the candidates' language “hateful invective” that show the Republican Party is “falling over itself to alienate more and more Americans every single day.”

“Rubio, Bush and others have abandoned the dog whistle in favor of the bull horn in a cynical effort to distract from their policies that disproportionally prop up the very wealthy and powerful corporations. The only ones getting any free stuff are these candidates and their puppeteers,” DNC spokesman Michael Tyler wrote in an e-mail.

As one of the candidates calling for a stronger social safety net, Clinton last month characterized Bush's rhetoric about African-Americans and free stuff as “deeply insulting.”

“I think people are seeing this for what it is: Republicans lecturing people of color instead of offering real solutions to help people get ahead, including facing up to hard truths about race and justice in America,” she wrote in a Facebook Q&A. “Not to mention—Republicans have no problem promising tax breaks and sweetheart deals to their corporate friends, but when Democrats fight to make sure all Americans have access to quality, affordable health care, early childhood education, and job training, that's giving away 'free stuff'?! Talk about backwards.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-19/the-republican-obsession-with-free-stuff-could-backfire

Reasonable points.

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posted October 22, 2015 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I repeat the Republicans are doing a fantastic job of restoring Hillary's credibility...on the taxpayers dime
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/22/1437454/-The-GOP-blew-the-Benghazi-committee-and-conservatives-know-it?

What is it you see in Ryan, Juni? A speaker who doesnt want the job seems like he could only be a liability.

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posted October 22, 2015 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then there is this aspect of Hillary which belies the *far left* scare cry of some Republicans. ..
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/wall-street-republicans-hillary-clinton-2016-106070

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posted October 24, 2015 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Catalina:
I repeat the Republicans are doing a fantastic job of restoring Hillary's credibility...on the taxpayers dime
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/22/1437454/-The-GOP-blew-the -Benghazi-committee-and-conservatives-know-it?

What is it you see in Ryan, Juni? A speaker who doesnt want the job seems like he could only be a liability.


While no politican is perfect, I think he is the best candidate for the job. I like his Conservative fiscal approach and his ability to unite parties. His youth is a plus he advocates repealing Obamacare ( no suprise )

There are many issues I`m not fond of, gun control stance, abortion and same sex marriage. Yet I am looking at the health of the country over all rather than a single group or issue.
Of the candidates, who would you have chosen?

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posted October 24, 2015 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't think of one offhand I'm afraid. I have problems with Ryan's insistence on "ample family time" in the light of his apparent disdain for making paid sick leave and family time a standard practice in this country...and his admiration for the hypocrite Ayn Rand as well as the other things. Tho his policy preferences are really not the issue in light of the general Republican body, he strikes me as dishonest and selfserving...and that he is being called "too moderate" by the others bodes ill for House workings. Then again what Speaker is a saint? They need someone who can work with all the factions, somehow...

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posted October 24, 2015 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

This is an oldish piece. Interestingly (😕 )the inadequate funding of security for Embassies like Benghazi are not one of their talking points in "investigating" blame.

Paul Ryan has been one of the frontmen in reducing these funds..which are likely to be getting some more attention in light of the more and more obvious use of Congressional (taxfunded) committee to campaign against Hillary.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/20/1147325/-House-GOP-Paul-Ryan-Cu t-400M-from-Embassy-Safety-Funding

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posted October 28, 2015 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another Republican speaks out.
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/28/1441555/-GOP-Presidential-Candidate-goes-ballistic-What-has-happened-to-our-Party?

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