posted December 15, 2015 12:05 AM            

Gun sales have been rising under his presidency, so please explain how he is attempting to take everyone's guns. I guess his evil plans were thwarted. It's always a good idea to follow the money. Anyone convinced that Obama is trying to take people's guns is falling for the propaganda. The gun manufacturers are laughing all the way to the bank.

Calling for more responsible gun ownership, and making it slightly more difficult to buy a weapon is not the same as an all out ban. The argument that continuing to sell weapons in a free for all market will prevent future mass shootings is absurd!

There is something really wrong with that mentality....more guns will lead to more armed people, which will then prevent mass shootings??? That makes my head hurt! Sadly a lot of people think this.

posted December 15, 2015 06:01 PM            

Half of whom work for Fox on false credentials as "experts' or the NRA who are making hay from pretending the end of gun rights is upon us...any day now for the last 7 years!

posted March 10, 2016 09:59 PM            

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So, um... Trump wants to "expand the laws" to allow killing of family members of suspected terrorists.

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posted March 14, 2016 08:41 PM            

The man is creating some nasty karma for himself and others.

Meanwhile he has proposed to alter the law to make it easier to sue people who say nasty things especially in print..pot/kettle ...

posted March 14, 2016 11:24 PM            

Here Are The 23 Executive Orders On Gun Safety Signed Today By The President

President Obama has signed 23 executive orders designed to address the problem of gun violence in America. The following are the items addressed:

Gun Violence Reduction Executive Actions:

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make itwidely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effectiveuse of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to developinnovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

posted March 15, 2016 02:41 AM            

Fact Check on Obama and guns:
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/01/sorting-out-obamas-gun-proposal/

I believe that forgot to mention how Obama expanded gun carrying rights:
http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-laws-obama-has-signed-2012-12

And http://uspolitics.about.com/od/Gun-Control/a/Gun-Laws-Signed-By-Obama.htm

Note, that one of those laws Obama repealed was put in place under Reagan, and the other under Bush.

I'll admit this surprised me, I was expecting President Obama to be a lot harsher than he was despite his promises. But unlike too many others, once I saw Obama was indeed keeping his promises (at least on this topic), I adjusted my thoughts and feelings in that regard to match the reality rather than my fears. Furthermore, his actions were still spat upon by conservatives and Obama was antagonized repeatedly (like protesters showing up armed and waving signs essentially threatening to kill "the tyrant" Obama) but he took the high road (as opposed to Trump who likes to use violence against those who protest against him--imagine what he'd do if people were to protest him while wearing guns and waving signs about watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants--or Rice who had people jailed just for showing up with shirts criticizing the war in Iraq) and I think Obama should be given credit for not stooping to the level of those who antagonized him. Hitler would not have been so tolerant.

Comparing any and all legislation regarding guns as "being like Hitler" is as absurd as saying those who promote prayer in school (like the Nazis) are promoting a dictatorship (as opposed to Trump making blanket racist statements and even encouraging violence and offering to cover legal fees of those who do which is a strong sign of fascist and racist leanings, whereas background checks on guns and socialized medicine are common in most free nations). Most nations clamp down far tighter on guns than the USA does and they're not dictatorships. Canada has socialized medicine and stricter gun laws (this doesn't mean guns are completely prohibited) but they're not sending people to the gulags or death camps. Heck, there was a time in Soviet Russia (I'm thinking 1972 for some reason, but I lost the book with the exact date years ago) where the crime had gotten so bad in Leningrad (St Petersburg) that guns were handed out to the citizens (essentially deputizing them) to combat it, and the people did so, giving the guns back when it was over, because guns don't stop authoritarianism.

Frankly, I think if a right wing dictatorship were declared in the USA (I just can't see a left wing dictatorship declared here, not for several decades anyway, even many Democrats considered "loony Leftist" in the USA are considered "moderate right wing" by the standards of most of the western world) I'd bet most NRA members would gladly be deputized to help enforce it rather than fight it.

And just to be clear...while the NRA is the largest gun owner rights organization in the USA, they still only represent about 5% of all US gun owners (though some have joined others, like Gun Owners of America, as they don't consider the NRA extreme enough). Most gun owners consider the NRA ridiculous, and often obnoxious to boot, and consider the current gun safety programs as being inferior (and even destructive) to what the NRA used to organize. Plenty are aligned with this guy who don't want guns banned, but do want to stop criminals, felons, and would-be mass murderers from getting guns:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN6rjamk0Q0

Plenty also don't like the paranoia of the NRA. When I complained on how absurd the NRA was, one gun owner told me he left the NRA back in the early 80s because of the wild paranoia they raised over Reagan after the President was shot, and they've only gotten worse since then.

posted March 15, 2016 05:35 PM            

StubbornVirgo:
#16 was parodied by the right and NRA as encouraging or insisting that doctors ask these questions...when what it says is there is no law that says they canNOT ask them.

posted March 15, 2016 05:38 PM            

Brown Shirts

In the 1920's a militia known as The Sturmabteilung, commonly called the SA or Brownshirts, was formed to provide "protection" for Nazi rallies. Their primary function was at first to keep protesters from disrupting Nazi political rallies, but the SA quickly expanded to intimidation through violence. The SA was composed of racists and anti-semites, thugs and brawlers, and nationalist fanatics determined to "take back" Germany for Germans and restore their country to its supposed former greatness. Elements of the SA disrupted the rallies and meetings of opposing political parties and predictably began a campaign of intimidation against elements of German society they deemed undesirable, such as immigrants, foreigners, gypsies, liberals, Leftists, unions, and in particular Jews. At first, they were unarmed, but very quickly the SA became the paramilitary branch of the Nazi party and their tactics evolved into open armed violence. In large part, Adolf Hitler was carried to power on the shoulders of the SA. Ultimately the SA gave birth to the Schutzstaffel, the infamous SS, which at Hitler's order turned on the SA and in a day of murder known as The Night of the Longs Knives purged it of any elements not fanatically loyal to the Reich.

Jump forward a century and remember the adage regarding those who forget history:

“Do you want to provide security protection to innocent people who are subject to harassment and assault by Far-left agitators? If so, you are welcome to join. That’s the mission - to protect innocents who can’t hire their own security guards.”

That's the mission statement of The Lion's Guard, a militia currently forming to "protect" Donald Trump from "far-left agitators."

Lion’s Guard said that their members would be unarmed, “but willing to forcefully protect people if need be. We are defensive, protective of innocents who are being beaten and harassed for their political views.”

Except for that part where the only innocents beaten and harassed at Trump rallies are those who protest Trump's message. The ones Trump supporters have called leftists and possible members of ISIS and enemies of the United States. Except for that part where Trump himself has threatened to send his followers to disrupt the rallies of his opponents.

Just like the Stormtrumper who threatened me yesterday via email, these people seem to believe that the First Amendment applies ONLY to them and their candidate. More, they believe threats, intimidation, and violence are acceptable responses to anyone who opposes them.

For the last 80 years, people have looked at the Nazis and Adolf Hitler and the atrocities committed by that horrifying regime, they've boggled at how a democratic civilized country could devolve into murder and genocide and madness, and asked over and over "how could something like that happen?" When it was over, when the Third Reich was finally defeated at the cost of millions of lives and devastation on a scale that defies comprehension, even the Germans themselves had no answer. If you look at the films and interviews from that time, ordinary Germans are stunned, shocked, ashamed, repulsed, and sickened by what they had wrought. Many still are to this very day. And we still ask, how could this happen?

How?

Inch by inch. Piece by piece. Goon by goon. Thug by thug. Speech by speech. Rally by rally. Fear by fear. Hate by hate. Until one day, Germany woke up to find their country had been stolen by madmen who promised to make them great again in a thousand years of glory - but instead led them to ruin and disaster in an orgy of blood.

That's how.

posted March 17, 2016 11:49 AM            

He did say he wants to kill the families of suspected terrorists, so he gets no vote from me.