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Randall
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posted August 21, 2016 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As long as it's in this Forum, that's fine. I've answered your question as clearly as I possibly can.

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posted August 21, 2016 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly. It will. Which is why we have more latitude in this Forum.

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posted August 21, 2016 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I apologize if I offended anyone with the picture of the Trump statue from behind. Trust me the front was much worse!

The statues were a very childish prank, but I'm still amused by them. Trump often body shames women and calls them ugly dogs and fat pigs, so I have no sympathy for him being body shamed. If he can dish it out he should be prepared to take it. I find it odd that his supporters were so outraged by this statue, yet have no issue with him calling women ugly on a regular basis.

Anyways, I posted the pics in good humor, not to offend anyone.

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posted August 21, 2016 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 22, 2016 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bluejay, I figured so but also figured he had a butt lift, snip & tuck at every new hair plug appointment.....
Therefore, the pic was not depictive of his ole butt.


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posted August 22, 2016 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's his real hair. Now, Hillary has had plastic surgery recently to make her more appealing to mellennial voters.

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posted August 22, 2016 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Y'all would be appalled if we body shamed Hillary or any women here. How about you show men the same respect?

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posted August 22, 2016 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 22, 2016 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. Everyone is deserving of respect. Argue the issues. Even argue personalities. But never make fun of someone's body or how they look.

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posted August 22, 2016 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won`t mention his butt/hair plugs again if you don`t mention Clintons vagina Or her plastic surgery again .

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posted August 22, 2016 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are actually free to do as you please. I wasn't insulting Hillary. I was stating a fact, as opposed to an insulting opinion. I didn't say she needed plastic surgery--only that she did so strategically. I do admit that I could have phrased my point better by saying people are voting for her due to her being a female.

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posted August 22, 2016 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You are actually free to do as you please. I wasn't insulting Hillary. I was stating a fact, as opposed to an insulting opinion. I didn't say she needed plastic surgery--only that she did so strategically. I do admit that I could have phrased my point better by saying people are voting for her due to her being a female.

"Insulting opinions" run amok here .

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posted August 22, 2016 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm speaking specifically to insulting looks and body shaming. But you can say whatever you feel is appropriate.

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posted August 22, 2016 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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I won`t mention his butt/hair plugs again if you don`t mention Clintons vagina Or her plastic surgery again .

as long as there are no double standards here, it`s all good.

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posted August 23, 2016 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I should have mentioned that the inspiration behind those statues was the children's story "The Emperor's New Clothes" by Hans Christian Andersen. About an egomaniacal emperor that gets tricked into thinking he is wearing beautiful new clothes by playing to his ego, when really he's prancing around naked. Everyone is afraid to point out that he's naked, so they all go along with it, telling him how great he looks in his new clothes. Trump has often been compared to the emperor in this story, even by several Republicans. So the statues were not just an attempt to body shame him, they were a satirical statement about Trump and his narcissism, and inability to handle the slightest criticism. This was especially true during the primaries, when a lot of Republicans were afraid to say anything about him publicly because they knew he would retaliate against them. He has such a thin skin when it comes to insults, yet he insults people on a daily basis. He has the personality and maturity level of a schoolyard bully, hurling petty insults at anyone that says anything remotely negative against him.

Trump himself body shames women, and reduces their value to how they look. He's done this throughout his life, and has even resorted to these childish tactics during his run for president. It's sad how low the bar has been set for him. He even showed a nude picture of his wife next to Ted Cruz's wife during the primaries, which was an obvious dig at Heidi Cruz's looks. It is so pathetic that a man like this actually won the nomination, despite lacking an ounce of substance and decency. Just off the top of my head I can recall him insulting the looks and bodies of Rosie O'Donnell, Heidi Klum, Bette Midler, Sarah Jessica Parker, and Cher. These are just from my own memory of comments I've heard come out of his own mouth, but this is a pattern of behavior for him. I'm sure in private that he feels the need to comment on every woman's looks, and whether he deems them attractive or not. He's getting a dose of his own medicine by people mocking his looks. I don't condemn the people that made the statues, because I feel that Trump brought it on himself. I think it might take something so shocking to make some people realize that he makes fun of people's physical appearance all of the time, and gets away with it.

The huge difference here is that these statues were commissioned by an activist group, and were not affiliated with any particular party or candidate. Trump insults women directly, so there is a major distinction here. Why is it acceptable for the Republican nominee for president to insult people's looks and their bodies, but it's not acceptable for an independent group to insult his? THAT is a blatant double standard. Even if the same thing was done to Hillary, it would not have the same satirical meaning that it has in this case, because Hillary doesn't insult her opponents by calling them fat and ugly. Trump does.

I personally find the statues to be very funny, although I did point out that they are a childish prank. If Trump wants to constantly degrade women on their looks, it's karma that people mock him for his.


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posted August 23, 2016 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 23, 2016 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It's not a double standard. Just because a man body shames a woman or comments on her appearance doesn't mean that it's okay to do it to him. It doesn't make it okay to do it to anybody. You can't fight hate with hate, no matter how satirical it is. The moment we start doing what he's doing, we stoop to his level. We become the bully.

Not to mention it just encourages men who are already sexist to continue being sexist. It validates their backward views that womens bodies deserved to be body shamed and commented on. Nobody deserves that.


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posted August 24, 2016 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some States are now seeing double digit lead for Hillary.
Trump will really need to up his game in the debates to make this a tough fight, else it is 300+ for Hillary.

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posted August 24, 2016 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 24, 2016 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's going to be a great comeback story when Trump wins.

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It's going to be a great comeback story when Trump wins.

Similar words used for Mitt too and where is he now?

Trump will not win.

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posted August 24, 2016 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mitt never had a chance. About 20 million Evangelicals stayed home, because they weren't going to vote for a Mormom. But anyway, time will tell. Get ready to eat crow, Juni.

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posted August 24, 2016 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Get ready to eat crow, Juni.

I do believe you just threw down the gauntlet

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posted August 24, 2016 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm all in. Hillary used the State Dept. as her own private ATM. Over half of the private meetings Hillary had at the State Dept. (85 out of 150) with foreign representatives were linked to very high-dollar donations to the Clinton Foundation--$156 million dollars worth! Keep in mind that foreigners cannot legally contribute to American candidates. Imagine the level of corruption if she gets in the white house. I have to believe America will not vote her in.

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