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Topic: 75% POSITIVE RESPONSE TO TRUMP SPEECH
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 8581 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2016 10:42 AM
You have to laugh when leftist loon political activists posing as journalists step on their own tongues..or something else.So, CNN...the Clinton News Network, ran a poll after Trump's speech expecting viewers to trash Trump. 75% of their viewers who responded saw Trump's speech as positive. So naturally, CNN had to disregard their own viewers and have their own political activists trash Trump's speech themselves. Who needs those pesky citizens expressing their opinions anyway? 75% POSITIVE RESPONSE TO TRUMP SPEECH-CNN TRASHES ITS OWN POLL Patrick Howley July 22, 2016 http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/22/75-percent-positive-response-to-donald-trump-speech-so-cnn-trashes-its-own-poll/ IP: Logged |
etherealsaturn Knowflake Posts: 196 From: New York, USA Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 23, 2016 10:49 AM
I'm surprised that CNN would have actually posted those numbers.His speech was great. It was realistic, hopeful and patriotic. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 1714 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted July 23, 2016 11:06 AM
Politifact documented 21 lies in this speech.It was the most over-blown lengthy list of promises without any mention of 'how' that I have ever heard -- what I could stand to listen of it. Not a single mention of how he would accomplish any of these promises. Not even an acknowledgment of Congress or how he'd work with them. The only thing backing these claims was his stalwart "I", which leads to the most unbelievable lie: quote:
Nobody knows the system better than me, which is why I alone can fix it.
Wow! What a grandiose ego! quote:
Is this guy running for president, or for dictoator? - Bernie Sanders
My thoughts exactly. It was a doom and gloom speech which will be known as a "Gotham City" speech full of emphasis on disorder and crime. It mis-characterized the unrest in the US, mis-characterized how government works. It is as if he has no clue how government works or has no intention of following the rules as he expects of "Crooked Hillary." It was a classic strongman speech whose promises suggest one thing and one thing only -- that his magic wand to achieve all of them would come at the scribble of his signature across the bottom of countless unconstitutional executive orders and the gross expansion of the federal (police) state. Anyone who does not see this is also delusional and in a hypnotic state of adoration, putting all their hopes in one man. No one with any knowledge of history or any understanding of constitutional government can give this speech any credibility. It draws comparisons to Nixon's speech at the 1968 convention, but was far more delusional. ------------------ The Declinations Guy Rising Sign Descriptions | Expert rectification ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓ IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 69076 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2016 12:58 PM
Best speech I ever heard. Politics as usual with Clinton. No change, no results, no hope. Only Trump can save this country.IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 5232 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 23, 2016 01:26 PM
Randall, you should post your views about Trump on the top of one of these pages instead of ads. At least, that way, people joining this site would be better informed as to where the dominant views lie. That might be important for some of us.IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 5232 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 23, 2016 01:29 PM
The forum's name is a misnomer. No Global unity here, instead a clear divide.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 69076 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2016 04:49 PM
The majority of Lindaland are Liberal. That's where the site leans. Yes, there is a divide. I suppose you expect everyone to think exactly as you do?IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 69076 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2016 05:02 PM
Sanders was telling the sordid truth about crooked Hillary, and now he endorses her?IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 69076 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2016 05:05 PM
Obama thinks he's a king with all his Executive Orders, but America and the world is far worse off and a far more dangerous place because of him. IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 5232 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 23, 2016 05:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: The majority of Lindaland are Liberal. That's where the site leans. Yes, there is a divide. I suppose you expect everyone to think exactly as you do?
That would be very odd. Of course it is more natural to have a difference in opinion, hopefully informed opinion based on rationality and good will. I change my mind too as I get better informed. However, I'd rather spend my time and energy on sites which are to the political left or liberal (not neo-liberal), which again includes a range of views. Support for Trump is many miles away.Incidentally, I agree with a few of your views (not specifics) about Obama's foreign policy but Trump will greatly worsen the situation, perhaps in different ways. IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo Knowflake Posts: 1539 From: Welcome to Mercury Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 24, 2016 01:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
It was a doom and gloom speech which will be known as a "Gotham City" speech full of emphasis on disorder and crime. It mis-characterized the unrest in the US, mis-characterized how government works. It is as if he has no clue how government works or has no intention of following the rules as he expects of "Crooked Hillary." It was a classic strongman speech whose promises suggest one thing and one thing only -- that his magic wand to achieve all of them would come at the scribble of his signature across the bottom of countless unconstitutional executive orders and the gross expansion of the federal (police) state. Anyone who does not see this is also delusional and in a hypnotic state of adoration, putting all their hopes in one man. No one with any knowledge of history or any understanding of constitutional government can give this speech any credibility.
Exactly. IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo Knowflake Posts: 1539 From: Welcome to Mercury Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 24, 2016 01:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Obama thinks he's a king with all his Executive Orders, but America and the world is far worse off and a far more dangerous place because of him.
Um, no. http://www.factcheck.org/2016/01/obamas-numbers-january-2016-update/ He's made some positive changes, and there have been some negative changes - just like with any president that we've had so far. But to say that the entire country and the world has become worse become of him is a gross exaggeration. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 69076 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2016 01:47 AM
ISIS has grown under his watch, specifically due to pulling out US troops from Iraq. You don't qualify that as making the country and the world more dangerous?IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo Knowflake Posts: 1539 From: Welcome to Mercury Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 24, 2016 01:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: Randall, you should post your views about Trump on the top of one of these pages instead of ads. At least, that way, people joining this site would be better informed as to where the dominant views lie. That might be important for some of us.
They're really not dominant, though. It's just that whenever threads like these are created, the conservative views stick out like a sore thumb because almost everybody seems to lean left here. They also seem more outspoken (again, maybe because there's so few of them) but truthfully, I can only count on one hand how many users have made it clear that they're conservative. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 8581 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2016 07:32 PM
Telling the truth about what Barack Hussein O'Bomber and Hillary The Corrupt have done to America..and other parts of the world is not "doom & gloom". It's simple recognition of facts. The worst president in US history and the worst sec state teamed up to turn the United States into a 3rd world Banana Republic. If lying and bungling incompetence were federal felony offenses, O'Bomber and Hillary The Corrupt would be doing life without parole.IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 5232 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 25, 2016 01:47 AM
So now we'll have Barack Hussein O'Bomber, Hillary The Corrupt and Trump, The Mad. Lots of choice - The Bigot, The Simple, The Narcissist, The Deluded.... .. I am from the 25% . IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 9500 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 25, 2016 08:28 AM
I vote Independent with a conservative lean. It is no secret in LL I deplore trumps belief system. Well before his presidental run, I voiced my concerns of people like him in the media, their greed, egotism and hatreds voiced . On the other hand, Hillary is no fine choice either. America is between a rock and a hard place with political stability and I for one, find it disturbing that we find our selves in this mess of fear, hatred and blame. What are we supposed to do when one is as negative as the other and no room to make a change? ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 18974 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 25, 2016 11:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by juniperb: I vote Independent with a conservative lean. It is no secret in LL I deplore trumps belief system. Well before his presidental run, I voiced my concerns of people like him in the media, their greed, egotism and hatreds voiced . On the other hand, Hillary is no fine choice either. America is between a rock and a hard place with political stability and I for one, find it disturbing that we find our selves in this mess of fear, hatred and blame. What are we supposed to do when one is as negative as the other and no room to make a change?
Have patience with each other? I just hate to see politics causing rifts. But anyway, I agree: there is no good choice this election. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 9500 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 25, 2016 02:48 PM
quote: Have patience with each other?
Thats about all we have left. ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 69076 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 25, 2016 04:03 PM
Trump brings change, which this country desperately needs. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 9500 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 25, 2016 08:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Trump brings change, which this country desperately needs.
Sure, what`s a little more hope and change ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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Voix_de_la_Mer Knowflake Posts: 1967 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 26, 2016 04:53 AM
I wonder what would happen if everyone simply stopped playing the voting game...When the bankers have all governments in a stranglehold does it really matter anyway?? I don't believe any government has true power. Voting validates their existence and keeps the game going. Those who have the "money" have the power. And you do not get to vote for them. They rule by default. Voting for government is a decoy, keeps us all distracted from the real puppetmasters IMO. IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4982 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 26, 2016 11:45 PM
If Trump can demonstrate that he will maintain a tight leash on the Banksters, close most US Army Bases, end drone attacks and bring US Soldiers back home, then he would have an edge over Hillary. Hillary has not yet offered anything game-changing. Trump's plan to ban Immigrants from Asian countries will prove to be a big positive in the long run for the respective countries as their Brain Drain would end. Also, getting rid of H1Bs will not deter offshoring of jobs nor create more American jobs, this would only create a positive sentiment in his vote bank. And I do not think he will ban Mexican Labor, even if he builds that Wall. Two big concerns regarding Trump: The allegation of his proximity to Putin's Vision for America, where NATO virtually ceases to exist, US Troops withdraw from Asia/Middle East and Russia barges into the International Trade Deals which Trump is promising to exit. Logically, Putin could be the biggest gainer in a Trump Presidency. Second, would racist attacks and hate crimes increase in his regime?
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 8581 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 27, 2016 09:25 AM
"Second, would racist attacks and hate crimes increase in his regime?"Are you attempting to equate terrorist attacks by Islamic Terrorists to "hate crimes"? You know, like O'Bomber tagged the terrorist attack at a US military base as..."workplace violence"? Renegotiating trade deals with other nations or groups of nations doesn't equate to "exiting" those trade deals. Forcing NATO nations to pay for their own defense...per their agreements, their fair share, doesn't equate to leaving NATO. Currently, the US pays 72% of the costs, an amount way over the stipulated US portion. Do you consider Middle East Nations to be Asian nations? Trump proposes halting immigration from middle east nations which have terrorist connections or where terrorism thrives. Mainly because immigrants/refugees from those nations can't be vetted, like Syria. As for HB-1 visas, why should the US permit the importation of foreign workers and keep American workers unemployed? Trump is not the America Last, American Last candidate. We have an America Last president infesting the Oval Office now...and another utterly corrupt wannabe trying for the third term of the Marxist Messiah, O'Bomber. Trump is America First, American First...just like any American President should be. If that makes all the "citizens of the world", including all the "accidental Americans" weep and gnash their teeth, tough luck, stock up on Kleenex. IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 5232 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 27, 2016 09:43 AM
Does it strike you that writing off an entire region of the world based upon a few instances of terrorism is an extreme form of racism? I don't, for example, discount the whole of the USA as being bigoted and stupid based upon my knowledge of a few instances of very right-wing bigots. And these right-wing bigots are dangerous too. When in power, they think bombing other countries is an effective solution to many problems.IP: Logged |