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Topic: American Election: A Scorpian / Pluto sun woman, or a Gemini / Mercurial man ?
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Belage
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posted August 10, 2016 11:53 PM
  
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Belage, this has been my theory all along. Trumps insurance Hillary gets the win. It "may" have went astray when all the people who are supporting his anger, hate, racial, religious bias and malfeasance jumped on his bandwagon.
In the end game, it will not be Trump so let him play house and make a bigger arse of himself . It just stinks it is Hillary up for the win 
Trump has gone from leading Hillary in the polls to trailing her, even in the states where it was a given he would be leading. Hillary didn't even have to lift a finger; this is all happening because Trump keeps shooting himself in the foot. So at this point, to me, either he is incorrigibly stupid, or he is in cahoot with Hillary. Because of their previous friendship and that the synastry of their charts supports some kind of understanding between them, I am leaning toward the theory that this is all a ploy to give Hillary the presidency. Trump is a gemini. Are we forgetting that this sign has two sides? two faces? What you see is not necessarily what you get. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted August 11, 2016 08:13 AM
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So at this point, to me, either he is incorrigibly stupid, or he is in cahoot with Hillary.
He`s too slick (or his cohorts are)to keep unintentionally shooting himself in the foot.
At first I thought it was just Old Donald but as it unfolds, he`s too much and she`s too little.
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Because of their previous friendship and that the synastry of their charts supports some kind of understanding between them, I am leaning toward the theory that this is all a ploy to give Hillary the presidency
Exactly! Then throw in his meeting with Bill Clinton just before he threw his hat in the race...
Two faced Gemini indeed and we are seeing the face of hate and doom . His second amendment comment ensured he gave Hillary another bump in numbers. ------------------
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Randall
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posted August 11, 2016 08:42 AM
Hillary was asked why she won't give up against Obama, and she said her husband didn't win till the California primary in June and that Kennedy was assassinated in June. That sounds like she was saying someone should kill Obama. Real nice lady there. And Obama said he was going to get rid of Hannity Chicago style. If Hannity has a knife, he said he will bring a gun. I can't even make stuff up this good! A reporter asked Kerry about killing two birds with one stone, and he said he'd like to go to Washington and kill one bird with a stone (Bush).IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 11, 2016 09:09 AM
When Hillary was a defense attorney, her first case was defending a man who raped a 12 year old girl. She interrogated the girl relentlessly making the child relive the rape over and over and had her sent for psychological testing. Hillary was proud about winning. She got the guy off with only a few months in jail and laughed about him passing the polygraph, saying she no longer believes in polygraphs. Translation: She knew he was guilty. And he was. He bragged about getting away with it. Hillary said that the victim "preferred older men." This is a 12 year old child we are talking about. And Hillary cares about women and children? All Hillary cares about is her rise in political power.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 11, 2016 09:14 AM
Yes, Trump is a Gemini. There's the tough fighter exterior business/political side you see on tv, and then there's the kind and loving husband/father/friend/mentor he is in person.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 11, 2016 10:35 PM
The girl required internal stitches and can't have children. Hillary bragged about getting him off. He only served a couple of months in jail. There was blood and semen evidence. How can any anyone think Hillary is for women and children? Worse yet, how can anyone in good conscience vote for her?IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo
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posted August 12, 2016 12:48 AM
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Randall
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posted August 12, 2016 01:00 AM
I think you have your finger on the pulse of it. In the primary, he was having fun. It's not fun anymore. The POTUS is a thankless job. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted August 12, 2016 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
When Hillary was a defense attorney, her first case was defending a man who raped a 12 year old girl. She interrogated the girl relentlessly making the child relive the rape over and over and had her sent for psychological testing. Hillary was proud about winning. She got the guy off with only a few months in jail and laughed about him passing the polygraph, saying she no longer believes in polygraphs. Translation: She knew he was guilty. And he was. He bragged about getting away with it. Hillary said that the victim "preferred older men." This is a 12 year old child we are talking about. And Hillary cares about women and children? All Hillary cares about is her rise in political power.
Randall, factcheck is still a working link. quote:
A: Clinton defended an accused rapist, but she did not volunteer. He pleaded guilty to a lesser offense. She laughed when recalling unusual aspects of the case.FULL QUESTION
Did Hillary Clinton volunteer to defend a child rapist in 1975, accuse the 12-year-old victim of fantasizing about older men, later state that she knew he was guilty but got the charges dropped and laugh? FULL ANSWER
In 1975, Hillary Clinton — then known as Hillary Rodham — taught at the University of Arkansas School of Law, where she founded the University of Arkansas School Legal Aid Clinic. It was during this time that she defended Thomas Alfred Taylor, a 41-year-old man accused of raping a 12-year-old girl. In her book “Living History,” Clinton recalls that Mahlon Gibson, a Washington County prosecutor, told her that the accused rapist “wanted a woman lawyer” to defend him, and that Gibson had recommended Clinton to Judge Maupin Cummings. “I told Mahlon I really didn’t feel comfortable taking on such a client, but Mahlon gently reminded me that I couldn’t very well refuse the judge’s request.” Gibson corroborated Clinton’s story in a 2014 interview with CNN.
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CNN, June 25, 2014: Gibson said Clinton called him shortly after the judge assigned her to the case and said, “I don’t want to represent this guy. I just can’t stand this. I don’t want to get involved. Can you get me off?”“I told her, ‘Well contact the judge and see what he says about it,’ but I also said don’t jump on him and make him mad,” Gibson said. “She contacted the judge and the judge didn’t remove her and she stayed on the case.”
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/06/clintons-1975-rape-case/ ------------------
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Randall
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posted August 12, 2016 04:19 PM
I never said she voluntered. She was the public defender. She laughed about the polygraph finding him innocent, which shows she knew he was guilty. She bragged about getting him on a plea bargain. And she said there was no evidence when there was both blood and semen evidence, as well as physical damage. She also said that this girl prefers older men. Are you gping to defend that commemt? The law never makes a child at fault. To not want the case, she sure was aggressive about winning and about ignoring evidence and trying to discredit the victim.IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted August 12, 2016 05:14 PM
I`m simply pointing out the "stretching" of the basic truth . When extra detail or bias is thrown in it becomes partial truth, right? The docotomy for me is any Attorney defending a murder, rapist or arsonist. BUT the law gives them the right to a lawyer so my disgust aside, I`m not defending her. I`m defending the right to an appointed attorney and all s/he can give to the client. quote:
She was the public defender. She laughed about the polygraph finding him innocent, which shows she knew he was guilty
This is your opinion, not fact. Again, this is what I mean about opinion/bias vs facts. Could she have laughed in relief at the finding of innocence? ------------------
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PixieJane
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posted August 12, 2016 05:36 PM
^^This is a more detailed break down of it:
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/ Now let's marvel that the media can receive such cynicism from so many who accept a FB Meme as true without question, and frankly should be impressive that there's even a grain of truth at all to the meme rather than a complete fabrication (as most of these viral memes are). IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 12, 2016 07:42 PM
No, I heard the actual interview. She laughed at him passing the polygraph, and she said it made her not believe in them. I wonder how people can spin Hillary blaming the child and saying the victim prefers older men.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 12, 2016 07:57 PM
The press is now latching on to Trump wanting to use military courts for GITMO terrorists. But to refresh the liberal memory, Obama intentionally murdered an American citizen with a drone attack. No trial at all--military or otherwise. Obama made himself judge, jury, and executionet. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted August 12, 2016 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
No, I heard the actual interview. She laughed at him passing the polygraph, and she said it made her not believe in them. I wonder how people can spin Hillary blaming the child and saying the victim prefers older men.
The actual interview is in the Snopes linked to. And the spin is on those who have sent the FB meme. This isn't me being a liberal or defending everything she and Obama do, I can do an essay on the criticisms of both, including on how Hillary treated the women who accused her husband of rape. It's just this is such BS, and BS like that actually helps more than harms people like Obama and Clinton because it ONLY is believed by the choir while discrediting the genuine criticism as just more propaganda to those who matter (the swing votes). Just as no one can point out the BS of "Hillary blames a 12 year old for her own rape" (or other such things) without being called a liberal or even Marxist, I can't point out genuine criticisms about the Democrat side without being dismissed as another FOX Zombie who thinks Obama is a Muslim from Kenya who wants to kill us all with Ebola.  And even many of the swing voters have given up listening to any criticism, because they've given up on trying to separate the facts hidden within a ton of BS. When they see FB memes like that go viral, the swing voters start to wonder if the honest criticisms are BS, too. And that helps Hillary more than hurt her, because the vast majority who are quick to believe it were never going to vote for her anyway while discrediting the actual criticisms that could be believed if it wasn't associated with the BS. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 12, 2016 09:07 PM
You haven't seen the videos of Hillary going after the women who made claims against Bill?IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 12, 2016 09:13 PM
No, Obama did not file a legal charter of incorporation for ISIS. Trump is saying that Obama's failed foreign policy formed the vacuum that allowed ISIS to grow. When Hillary said Trump was the best recruiter for ISIS, no one thinks Trump is handing out ISIS pamphlets on the street. When Warren said Republicans are selling guns to ISIS, we didn't take it literally. When Hillary said she wiped her servers clean with a cloth, we didn't ask was it cotton or a terry cloth.  IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 12, 2016 10:46 PM
"When women make allegations of sexual assault, they should be believed and they should be supported." -- Hillary ClintonWhen Bill was accused of rape, how do you think Hillary reacted? *Jeopardy music* IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 13, 2016 11:43 AM
Interview with 12-year-old rape victim, court documents, photos, and more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3729466/Child-rape-victim-comes-forward-time-40-years-call-Hillary-Clinton-liar-defended-rapist-smearing-blocking-evidence-callously-laughin g-knew-guilty.html IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted August 13, 2016 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
You haven't seen the videos of Hillary going after the women who made claims against Bill?
No. But those I know don't have a horse in the political races. I bet that video does. But maybe not. And btw, the Daily Mail is also not a good source, it's rather infamous (especially in its native UK where it has been successfully sued for lying multiple times). In the past when I found something on Daily Mail worth sharing I was first determined to find a better source first (if it came down to the Daily Mail then I had to give the caveat that it's the Daily Mail). IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo
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posted August 17, 2016 03:33 AM
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Bluejay
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posted August 17, 2016 05:08 AM
FYI Randall, Daily Mail has the credibility of a tabloid magazine. It's maybe a small step up from The National Enquirer in the US. Daily Mail is owned by Rupert Murdoch, the owner of Fox News. That says it all. If these are your primary news sources, along with shady blogs with a clear conservative agenda, then YOU are the one being brainwashed by biased media outlets. Those that get their information from a variety of news outlets are more likely to see through the spin and form intelligent opinions. Unfortunately conservatives are so convinced that every other media outlet has an extreme left wing agenda(which is exactly what Fox News wants them to believe), that they prefer "news" that reinforces their beliefs. Conservative news and radio is extremely biased! So much so that any reporting of actual facts from other news sources seems to be a left wing conspiracy in comparison. That's been Fox's business model since day one, and it's proven to be quite profitable. Although they have absolutely no interest in presenting actual facts. It's all about pandering to their conservative right wing audience. IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted August 17, 2016 05:26 AM
I agree StubbornVirgo  On Fox News a few days ago they dedicated at least an entire hour about how Hillary doesn't like walking up stairs and she's so old. Even though Trump is older than her! Suggesting that disqualifies her from being president. I think that's complete sexist BS! Last week Fox spent a great deal of airtime replaying Hillary's reaction to a reporter, insisting she was having a seizure. They literally replayed the footage on a loop the entire time. It's a desperate and sad strategy considering this is a competition for the highest office in the world. I'm quite amused by the media circus, until I remember that there are a lot of Americans that are stupid enough to believe that crap. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 17, 2016 10:44 AM
It doesn't matter who broke the story. You can see the interview itself and make up your mind from that. But I trust FOX over CNN that has lost any credibility whatsoever. They prefer a Trump gaffe over substantive news, and they just make stuff up like the Secret Service story. Health matters. Presidential candidates have to undergo health exams. And FYI, Trump works 20 hour days. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted August 17, 2016 01:26 PM
"And FYI, Trump works 20 hour days"Or so someone says. We don`t know how many hours others work either. ------------------
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