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Randall
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posted September 17, 2016 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trump is talking about real issues. The more he does so, the higher he rises in the polls. Hillary is the one who is focusing on personalities.

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posted September 17, 2016 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Every single night, while Hillary is talking to big money, Trump is somewhere in the country talking to the people. Every night. Last night was Florida.

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posted September 17, 2016 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's right Randall.

Trump is talking to real people, every day and every night. The people who live on Main Street USA, which is exactly where Trump lives. On Main Street USA not Wall Street.

There's a reason Trump is known as the Blue Collar Billionaire.

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posted September 17, 2016 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He did. He also made a nasty crack about Harry Reid, and suggested that Hillary's security should get rid of their guns "and see what happens". He's disgusting.

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posted September 17, 2016 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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suggested that Hillary's security should get rid of their guns "and see what happens". He's disgusting.

Most likely he said that to detract from his admitted birther hatefest and keep his right wingers drooling. As evidenced in this forum, it appears to have a minute effect and it flopped.
Or would that be flipped? Flipped/flopped; either way....

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posted September 17, 2016 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Most likely he said that to detract from his admitted birther hatefest and keep his right wingers drooling. As evidenced in this forum, it appears to have a minute effect and it flopped.
Or would that be flipped? Flipped/flopped; either way....


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posted September 17, 2016 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
That's right Randall.

Trump is talking to real people, every day and every night. The people who live on Main Street USA, which is exactly where Trump lives. On Main Street USA not Wall Street.

There's a reason Trump is known as the Blue Collar Billionaire.


Trump lives in penthouse of the Trump Towers, last I checked. That's hardly Main Street USA. He's had a Trust fund for his entire his life. There's nothing blue collar about him, unless he buys more blue collar shirts made in China or Taiwan.

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posted September 17, 2016 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Nothing shocks me on this Forum anymore. A video of Hillary blowing someone's brains out would be justified somehow by the left.

That's a gross exaggeration.

We're aware of her faults. The difference is, we're choosing to vote for her in spite of them. Not because we've convinced ourselves that our candidate doesn't have any, which is what the right wing has done with their own flawed candidate. And also because she's the lesser of two evils.

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posted September 17, 2016 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Can you imagine a world where John Kasich was the candidate and we were talking about real issues like, taxes, policies and the economy?

Naw,reality t.v. is more fun.


Kasich would have made an excellent candidate. He's a Republican that I would probably vote for.

Maybe he'll have a chance to run after Trump's spiraling down following him losing the race.

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posted September 17, 2016 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"He also made a nasty crack about Harry Reid"

Hairy Reed is a slug...who attacked Trump...1st. Reid got a small portion of what he really deserves. He's a liar of gigantic proportions.

As far as Trump calling on Hillary The Corrupt to disarm her Secret Service detail, why shouldn't she? This is the same woman who wants to disarm American citizens and leave our butts hanging out in the air if we're ever attacked.

In other words, Hillary The Corrupt is just another "do as I say, not as I do" hypocrite.

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posted September 17, 2016 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Trump lives in penthouse of the Trump Towers, last I checked. That's hardly Main Street USA. He's had a Trust fund for his entire his life. There's nothing blue collar about him"

More blithering crap from the cheap seats in the peanut gallery.

Trump was working on construction projects when he was a teenager...and I don't mean walking around in a suit with a clip board in his hands. He had shovels, picks and bulldozer controls in his hands...as well as backhoes, graders and compactors.

Trump's money was made on Main Street. It's clear you haven't a clue what that even means. You prefer Hillary The Corrupt who's never made anything in her entire life and has lived off taxpayers for the most of her adult life. Her campaign is funded by Wall Street. None for me, barf!

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posted September 17, 2016 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, so now I'm accused of being poor?

Well, you know who knows blue collar well? Poor people.

Trump is not blue collar. Take your fanciful delusions elsewhere, because I'm not buying into that load of bull. Show me a photo of him on a construction site NOT having s photo op. Having a shovel I'm your hand for 2 seconds for a photo op isn't the same thing as working a 16 hour day in dangerous conditions. Owning the building doesn't mean that you personally built the building while taking care of a wife and 3 kids while getting stiffed by a billionaire who doesn't want to pay his taxes. Yeah, Trump knows blue collar...he knows how to screw over blue collar people and leave them with nothing. Just go ask the workers who never got paid for their work on Trump hotels, or the ones who were paid fifty cent on the dollar because he didn't want to pay his expenses after the work had already been completed. How many small businesses did he hurt all in the name of making a $?

Get your facts straight, jwhop. You can tell yourself whatever you like, but you can't erase his ugly past.

And Republicans claim to care about the poor...please, continue with your insults. This very revealing for your party. All of the hypocrisies and true opinions of people they see as beneath them are coming out in the wash.

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posted September 17, 2016 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, no facts for you. Lies seems to be more than enough for you.

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posted September 17, 2016 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
Kasich would have made an excellent candidate. He's a Republican that I would probably vote for.

Maybe he'll have a chance to run after Trump's spiraling down following him losing the race.


He was the best of the lot and if he continued , I would have given him my vote.

But American values really have nothing to do with this race and to quote Linda Goodman, EXPECT A MIRACLE...

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posted September 17, 2016 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trump received a loan that he had to pay back. While he turned that into billions, most people would have squandered every penny.

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posted September 17, 2016 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Trump received a loan that he had to pay back. While he turned that into billions, most people would have squandered every penny.

And he hurt small businesses and blue collar workers in the process. That's hardly a success, unless you just look at the numbers.

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posted September 17, 2016 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In March 2016, Politico Magazine analyzed 4.6 hours of Trump stump speeches and press conferences over a five-day period and found "more than five dozen statements deemed mischaracterizations, exaggerations, or simply false." Trump's penchant for exaggerating to voters has roots in the world of New York real estate where he made his fortune, and where hyperbole is a way of life.

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Yup, yup, mainstreet USA , just down the road from fibber McGee.

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posted September 17, 2016 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No kidding, juni.

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posted September 17, 2016 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I stand corrected. Success is measured by how many works of art you can steal off the white house walls and how much silverware you can sneak off with. It's laughable to see anyone post about lies as it relates to Trump when classless liar and thief, Hillary, is the Queen of deception. She even lies about lying.

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posted September 17, 2016 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]In March 2016, Politico Magazine analyzed 4.6 hours of Trump stump speeches and press conferences over a five-day period and found "more than five dozen statements deemed mischaracterizations, exaggerations, or simply false." Trump's penchant for exaggerating to voters has roots in the world of New York real estate where he made his fortune, and where hyperbole is a way of life.

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Yup, yup, mainstreet USA , just down the road from fibber McGee.

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posted September 17, 2016 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It's laughable to see anyone post about lies as it relates to Trump when classless liar and thief, Hillary, is the Queen of deception. She even lies about lying.

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On the presidential campaign trail, Mr. Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee, often boasts of his success in Atlantic City, of how he outwitted the Wall Street firms that financed his casinos and rode the value of his name to riches. A central argument of his candidacy is that he would bring the same business prowess to the Oval Office, doing for America what he did for his companies.

“Atlantic City fueled a lot of growth for me,” Mr. Trump said in an interview in May, summing up his 25-year history here. “The money I took out of there was incredible.”

His audacious personality and opulent properties brought attention — and countless players — to Atlantic City as it sought to overtake Las Vegas as the country’s gambling capital. But a close examination of regulatory reviews, court records and security filings by The New York Times leaves little doubt that Mr. Trump’s casino business was a protracted failure. Though he now says his casinos were overtaken by the same tidal wave that eventually slammed this seaside city’s gambling industry, in reality he was failing in Atlantic City long before Atlantic City itself was failing.

But even as his companies did poorly, Mr. Trump did well. He put up little of his own money, shifted personal debts to the casinos and collected millions of dollars in salary, bonuses and other payments. The burden of his failures fell on investors and others who had bet on his business acumen.

In three interviews with The Times since late April, Mr. Trump acknowledged in general terms that high debt and lagging revenues had plagued his casinos. He did not recall details about some issues, but did not question The Times’s findings. He repeatedly emphasized that what really mattered about his time in Atlantic City was that he had made a lot of money there.

Mr. Trump assembled his casino empire by borrowing money at such high interest rates — after telling regulators he would not — that the businesses had almost no chance to succeed.

His casino companies made four trips to bankruptcy court, each time persuading bondholders to accept less money rather than be wiped out. But the companies repeatedly added more expensive debt and returned to the court for protection from lenders.

After narrowly escaping financial ruin in the early 1990s by delaying payments on his debts, Mr. Trump avoided a second potential crisis by taking his casinos public and shifting the risk to stockholders.

And he never was able to draw in enough gamblers to support all of the borrowing. During a decade when other casinos here thrived, Mr. Trump’s lagged, posting huge losses year after year. Stock and bondholders lost more than $1.5 billion.

All the while, Mr. Trump received copious amounts for himself, with the help of a compliant board. In one instance, The Times found, Mr. Trump pulled more than $1 million from his failing public company, describing the transaction in securities filings in ways that may have been illegal, according to legal experts.

Mr. Trump now says that he left Atlantic City at the perfect time. The record, however, shows that he struggled to hang on to his casinos years after the city had peaked, and failed only because his investors no longer wanted him in a management role.

There are those here who fondly remember Mr. Trump’s showmanship, the thousands he employed in a struggling city, and the tens of millions of dollars in tax revenue his casinos generated.

“He was a great person for the company,” said Scott C. Butera, the president of Mr. Trump’s company at the time of its 2004 bankruptcy. “With his oversight, his brand and marketing, he’s really adept.”

Many others were glad to see him go.

“He put a number of local contractors and suppliers out of business when he didn’t pay them,” said Steven P. Perskie, who was New Jersey’s top casino regulator in the early 1990s. “So when he left Atlantic City, it wasn’t, ‘Sorry to see you go.’ It was, ‘How fast can you get the hell out of here?’”


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“He helped expand Atlantic City, but he just did not put the equity into the projects he should have to keep them solvent,” said H. Steven Norton, a casino consultant and a former casino executive at Resorts International. “When he went bankrupt, he not only cost bondholders money, but he hurt a lot of small businesses that helped him construct the Taj Mahal.”

Beth Rosser of West Chester, Pa., is still bitter over what happened to her father, whose company Triad Building Specialties nearly collapsed when Mr. Trump took the Taj into bankruptcy. It took three years to recover any money owed for his work on the casino, she said, and her father received only 30 cents on the dollar.

“Trump crawled his way to the top on the back of little guys, one of them being my father,” said Ms. Rosser, who runs Triad today. “He had no regard for thousands of men and women who worked on those projects. He says he’ll make America great again, but his past shows the complete opposite of that.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html?_r=0

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(CNN)"It was like we won the lottery," Beth Rosser remembers. Her dad, Forest Jenkins, had just secured a $200,000 contract to work at the biggest prize in Atlantic City: Donald Trump's Taj Mahal.

His company installed toilet partitions -- not exactly glamorous, but important nonetheless. It was 1988, and a six-figure contract was huge.

"It was a big job. It was great. We were all excited," says Forest's son Steven Jenkins. Jenkins spent a month working at the Taj. "I had the fuzz from those carpets on the wheels of my dolly for months after that job."

But what seemed like a winning ticket soon turned into a nightmare when the paycheck never came.

"We weren't this big company," remembers Rosser, who now runs the company with her brother, Steven. "We didn't have tons of money in an account somewhere to cover things."
Jenkins says his dad, who built the company from nothing, nearly lost everything.

The Taj Mahal, the most expensive casino ever built in Atlantic City filed for bankruptcy in 1991, just two years after its glitzy grand opening. The bankruptcy meant companies like Triad Building Specialties didn't get paid.

After years of fighting through bankruptcy court, the Jenkins ended up with just 30 cents on the dollar. Their company was owed $231,000, according to the bankruptcy claim filed in the case. The Jenkins family received $70,000.

The Jenkins family realized they weren't alone. Dozens of contractors who had worked on the construction were also getting stiffed.

"It's 27 years later. I grit my teeth every time I see him on television blustering about what a wonderful businessman he is," Rosser says. "He stepped on a lot of people."

CNN reached out to the Trump campaign about each of the business deals mentioned in this story. Those calls went unanswered.

Nat Hyman also knows what it's like to lose money at the hands of Trump.
"When he's nice, he's very, very nice. And when he's nasty, he's immensely nasty. He is as rough as they get," says Hyman, who claims he spent years buried in litigation with Trump.

In 1996, Hyman was a young entrepreneur who thought he landed a great deal when he secured a kiosk inside the Trump Tower lobby for his costume jewelry company, Landau Jewelry. His nascent business flourished and, eventually, the jeweler was able to negotiate deals with Trump to open additional kiosks inside his Atlantic City casinos.

But then Hyman's success was stymied. He claims his kiosk inside Trump Tower was in a prime location, so Trump tried to force him out of the spot. Trump's lawyers sent letters citing "the poor quality of the merchandise" -- a claim Hyman says was unfounded.

When Hyman wouldn't move, he says Trump retaliated against him by canceling his leases for the Atlantic City casinos and burying him in legal paperwork.
"I think I spent over a million dollars in litigation with him," Hyman says.

Hyman eventually left Trump Tower after 14 years. Trump replaced the jeweler's kiosk with his own merchandise that bore his name.

If he had to do it all over again, Hyman says he would have never gone into business with the real-estate tycoon.
"I tried to stand up to him everywhere I could but it's exhausting, and it's silly. To him, it's a sport. To him, it's fun."

On the campaign trail in June, Trump promised the crowd that his business experience would create thousands of new jobs.

"We will make it very, very good for our companies, for our small business and for people that want to survive and do well in our country," Trump pledged.

But Paul Friel says his dad's small business went under at the hands of the billionaire.

The Edward J. Friel Company built cabinets for Trump's first Atlantic City casino in the early 1980s. The company was awarded a $400,000 contract to build cabinets for the slot machines at Trump Plaza.

After the work was completed and approved by the general contractor, Friel expected a payment of $84,000, which would have covered the final expenses and all of the profit.

But Friel says Trump bought out the construction contract from the general contractor, Perini Corporation, and then refused to make the payment.

It was a shock to his father, Friel remembers.

"We had already worked for three (general contractors), and every single one of them lived up to their word until Donald Trump came to Atlantic City," Friel says.

Friel's father tried to recoup the money he was owed but eventually gave up. Friel believes Trump used his enormous influence to block his father's company from working on any future Atlantic City projects.

"I think it surprised him the most that Donald Trump had blackballed him ... even though we had an excellent name in Atlantic City," Friel says.

After struggling to stay afloat, the Edward J. Friel Company filed for bankruptcy several years later.

"He was devastated. The fact that we had seen such a huge future in Atlantic City for his business that all of a sudden because of one deal ... his business in Atlantic City was done," Friel says.

At the Republican National Convention in Cleveland Trump promised to prosperity for America, saying: "I have made billions of dollars in business making deals. Now I'm going to make our country rich again."

Friel says he's speaking out on behalf of his father, who died in 2006.

"He would say, 'Paul, do this for us...let the country know what kind of man this is."


http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/13/politics/trump-small-business-owners/

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RUFFIN’S LIE: “He always pays his bills promptly… No discounts. Nobody lost any money on it.”

THE TRUTH

Donald Trump failed to pay J. Michael Diehl, owner of Freehold Music Center, around $100,000 for eight grand pianos.

“J. Michael Diehl, who owns Freehold Music Center, sold Trump eight Yamaha grand pianos for around $100,000. ‘He put out a bid for pianos about a year before the Taj opened. I won the bid. I delivered the pianos, and I waited and I waited to get paid. And finally I heard from them that I had three choices: to accept 70 percent of the bid or to wait until the casino could afford to pay the bill in full. Or I could force them into bankruptcy with everybody else and maybe get 10 cents on the dollar. I took the 70 percent, and I lost 30 percent.’‘

Diehl: “I had three choices: to accept 70 percent of the bid or to wait until the casino could afford to pay the bill in full. Or I could force them into bankruptcy with everybody else and maybe get 10 cents on the dollar.”

“J. Michael Diehl, who owns Freehold Music Center, sold Trump eight Yamaha grand pianos for around $100,000. ‘He put out a bid for pianos about a year before the Taj opened. I won the bid. I delivered the pianos, and I waited and I waited to get paid. And finally I heard from them that I had three choices: to accept 70 percent of the bid or to wait until the casino could afford to pay the bill in full. Or I could force them into bankruptcy with everybody else and maybe get 10 cents on the dollar. I took the 70 percent, and I lost 30 percent.’‘ [Newsweek, 10/30/15]

Donald Trump’s Doral resort was forced into foreclosure by a judge to pay off a Florida paint contractor stiffed by Trump.

“Juan Carlos Enriquez, owner of The Paint Spot, in South Florida, has been waiting more than two years to get paid for his work at the Doral. The Paint Spot first filed a lien against Trump’s course, then filed a lawsuit asking a Florida judge to intervene. In courtroom testimony, the manager of the general contractor for the Doral renovation admitted that a decision was made not to pay The Paint Spot because Trump ‘already paid enough.’ As the construction manager spoke, ‘Trump’s trial attorneys visibly winced, began breathing heavily, and attempted to make eye contact’ with the witness, the judge noted in his ruling. That, and other evidence, convinced the judge The Paint Spot’s claim was credible. He ordered last month that the Doral resort be foreclosed on, sold, and the proceeds used to pay Enriquez the money he was owed. Trump’s attorneys have since filed a motion to delay the sale, and the contest continues. Enriquez still hasn’t been paid.” [USA Today, 6/9/16]

Donald Trump sued a Florida chandelier small business to avoid paying the full cost of services provided.

“Some small businesses, such as Classic Chandeliers in West Palm Beach, Fla., decided they couldn’t afford to fight. In 2004, Mr. Trump chose 5-foot-wide chandeliers with 75 bulbs from the store, said Judith Jacobson, who said she designed the fixture and worked there with her ex-husband, Nicolas Jacobson, the owner. Mr. Trump’s representatives negotiated to buy three chandeliers for his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida for $34,000 total with a 50% down payment, according to court records. ‘The fact that he was Trump,’ Ms. Jacobson said, ‘my ex-husband said ‘OK, we wouldn’t have any problems with someone who has the means.’ ‘ Mr. Trump later sued Classic Chandeliers in Palm Beach County, Fla., court saying he shouldn’t have to pay in full because the company didn’t install the chandeliers properly. Mr. Jacobson, whose last name was spelled Jacobsen in the lawsuit, denied the claim. Court records show the suit was dropped in 2006 after a planned mediation.” [Wall Street Journal, 6/9/16]

Rob Kimmons, a private detective, sued Donald Trump for failing to pay him for monitoring the private detective hired by Ivana Trump to spy on Donald Trump and Marla Maples.

“A private detective is suing Donald Trump for more than $5,000 in unpaid fees for keeping tabs last summer on another detective hired by Trump’s ex-wife. Rob Kimmons, owner of an investigative firm in Houston, claims Trump failed to pay him for monitoring another Houston private eye retained by Ivana Trump to watch her husband and Marla Maples.” [Orlando Sentinel, 2/16/91]

Two Virginia lawyers accused Donald Trump of failing to pay their firm.

“Two Richmond-area lawyers say their firm is getting stiffed by Donald Trump and they want out of a lawsuit in Charlottesville federal court. A Trump spokesperson blames the dispute on shoddy work by the Virginia lawyers. The lawyers from Cook, Heyward, Lee, Hopper & Feehan PC of Glen Allen are asking a federal judge to let them out of the lawsuit pitting the New York financier against the bank that owns the embattled Kluge mansion in Albemarle County. Two Trump-owned entities – defendants in the case – have ‘failed to meet their financial obligations’ to the lawyers and the firm, wrote David D. Hopper in a motion filed Friday. It would work a hardship on the lawyers and the firm to require them to continue to represent Trump ‘without being paid,’ Hopper said.” [Virginia Lawyers Weekly, 12/2/11]

Donald Trump faced a nearly $95,000 lawsuit for missed legal fees.

“Lawyer David Hopper, who worked for Trump Organization and other Trump companies, sued in Virginia federal court claiming that in 2011 they owed him $94,511.35 in legal fees. After invoices from Mr. Hopper went unfilled for more than 60 days, Trump representatives had told his firm the bills were ‘too high’ and it should agree to cap its fees or reduce them by 70%, according to court filings. In response, Mr. Hopper withdrew from representing a Trump company in a federal case.” [Wall Street Journal, 6/9/16]

One of the lawyers accused Donald Trump of “defamation” after a Trump lawyer called his work “shoddy.”

“After a Trump lawyer called Mr. Hopper’s work ‘shoddy’ in a local publication, Mr. Hopper filed his suit, alleging defamation and breach of contract. Trump lawyers responded that the business didn’t owe the money and denied defaming him.” [Wall Street Journal, 6/9/16]

Donald Trump strung along an Ohio fiberglass business for a $3 million bill.

“Five hundred miles away, in Ashtabula, Ohio, Robert Morrison of the Molded Fiber Glass Co. was pressing his workers to finish the domes and minarets and other faux Moorish ornaments in time for the April opening — and worrying about who was going to pay for all of it. An invoice sent a few weeks earlier for $1.4 million still hadn’t been paid. […] Morrison of Molded Fiber Glass was getting desperate for his money and so he turned to Irwin Tobman, a field supervisor in Atlantic City overseeing the installation of the domes and minarets. Tobman had been told earlier by a Trump official that the delay in sending the check was due to a ‘slight glitch.’ ‘We got to get the job done,’ Tobman recalls the Trump guy saying. ‘Put in as many hours as you have to — unlimited overtime.’ Tobman drove his staff hard, in three shifts — 24 hours a day, seven days a week. He pressed Trump’s people again, and got a familiar answer: You’ll get the money in two weeks, no problem. Two months later, Molded Fiber Glass was still waiting. Trump was ‘stringing us along,’ says Tobman. ‘What he did was wrong.’ On June 12, Molded Fiber Glass sued for the $3 million it was owed. ” [Associated Press, 6/28/16]

Molded Fiber Glass Co. was forced to write off $2 million of a $3 million bill, and its owner was forced to borrow money to pay off companies he hired to complete Donald Trump’s project.

“Molded Fiber Glass never removed its domes, choosing instead to join with Lundy and 46 others in a negotiated settlement with Trump for cash equal to 33 cents of each dollar owed, plus 50 cents in convertible bonds, according to Morrison’s book. Trump also threw in a ‘right of first refusal,’ meaning the contractors would get future work at the Taj if they matched the best bid from others. The bonds would eventually pay in full, but the holders had to wait at least several years. Strapped for money, some contractors sold them immediately, getting a fraction of what they were worth at maturity. Among the sellers was Morrison of Molded Fiber Glass, according to Tobman, his man in Atlantic City. Morrison ended up having to write off $2 million of the $3 million that Trump owed him, according to his book. The company refused to comment. Tobman says Trump’s cash crunch left Morrison with no money to pay the dozen companies he had hired to help with the Taj work. But Morrison paid them anyway, Tobman recalls, by borrowing the money. ‘Morrison knew no other way but to pay his bills,’ says Tobman. ‘A handshake meant everything.’” [Associated Press, 6/28/16]

Donald Trump hired Eric Silverstein for a $800,000 sign painting job, but Silverstein was offered just 50 cents on the dollar upon completion.

“Does toughness necessarily translate into more money for Trump? Ask Eric Silverstein. His sign-painting company had been working overtime to get ready for the opening of Trump Plaza, one of Trump’s Atlantic City casinos. Silverstein was a minor contractor on a huge project. But for him, the $800,000 fee was enormous. No choice: Trump kept asking for small improvements in his work, Silverstein says, and delayed payment until they were completed. Then, he claims, Robert Trump, who managed the project for Donald, called Silverstein to a meeting he swears took place in one of the hotel’s men’s rooms. Trump, Silverstein says, had a new offer. He would give him 50 cents on the dollar to settle the contact. If he didn’t like it, he claims he was told, he could sue. Silverstein says he had little choice. A suit would take years, and he simply couldn’t afford the legal fees.” [Newsweek, 9/28/87]

Donald Trump refused to pay a $1.2 million bill to an Atlantic City paver.

“Weak from heart surgery and a sepsis infection that would soon kill her, Patricia Paone was resting at home last summer when an apparition appeared on the TV — a famous businessman who had struck a deal with her husband years before. ‘He’s a crook!’ she roared, according to a son who was with her that day. ‘I can’t listen to this.’ A quarter of a century had passed since Donald Trump refused to pay $1.2 million for the paving stones her late husband installed at Atlantic City’s Taj Mahal casino. But for Paone and others like her — the dozens of contractors and their families who never got all they were owed — it could have happened yesterday.” [Associated Press, 6/28/16]

Donald Trump paid contractors on his Taj Mahal casino just 33 cents on the dollar after the casino failed with a promise of 50 cents later for the businesses that survived long enough.

“Of all the real estate and casino deals in Trump’s long career, the Taj arguably sheds the most light on how the would-be U.S. president handles crises. It was his biggest gamble, the ‘eighth wonder of the world,’ as he dubbed it. And when it went south, his moves to avoid a financial hit to his empire hobbled many small businesses with little cushion to absorb the blow. After the Taj opened in April 1990, the self-anointed ‘King of Debt’ owed $70 million to 253 contractors employing thousands who built the domes and minarets, put up the glass and drywall, laid the pipes and installed everything from chandeliers to bathroom fixtures. A year later, when the casino collapsed into bankruptcy, those owed the most got only 33 cents in cash for each dollar owed, with promises of another 50 cents later. It took years to get the rest, assuming the companies survived long enough to collect.” [Associated Press, 6/28/16]

Newsweek: Atlantic City contractors with Trump “were so accustomed to getting paid cents on the dollar that they habitually built in an extra percentage.”

“In 1991, the Trump Taj Mahal Casino, which had opened just a year before, filed for bankruptcy. Trump had financed it with $900 million in junk bonds. Although the company—and not Trump personally—filed for bankruptcy, he unloaded his Trump Princess yacht, his Trump Shuttle airline and stakes in other businesses. The Taj bankruptcy hit Atlantic City’s small businesses much harder. Trump already had a reputation for being a very tough negotiator with suppliers—an echo of his campaign promise to negotiate the best trade deals for America. Contractors were so accustomed to getting paid cents on the dollar that they habitually built in an extra percentage, according to one Atlantic City bankruptcy lawyer.” [Newsweek, 10/30/15]

Former Atlantic City Mayor Jim Whelan: “There were a lot of small contractors and vendors who got hurt, who went out of business because Trump did not pay contracts on time.”

“New Jersey state Senator Jim Whelan, Atlantic City’s mayor during the Trump years, and other sources who asked not to be quoted say Trump had a bad reputation among vendors even before the bankruptcies. ‘The fact is, there were a lot of small contractors and vendors who got hurt, who went out of business because Trump did not pay contracts on time,’ he says.” [Newsweek, 10/30/15]

Atlantic City bankruptcy lawyer on Trump’s shorted contractors: “It wasn’t just the money; a lot of these guys went into depression.”

“‘Anytime I went to Atlantic City and I’d see that Trump sign, I’d think of the little guys,’ says bankruptcy lawyer Arthur Abramowitz who worked with contractors for years after the casino itself went bankrupt. ‘It wasn’t just the money; a lot of these guys went into depression.’” [Associated Press, 6/28/16]

Atlantic City contractor on working for Donald Trump: “We got next to nothing.”

“‘We got next to nothing,’ says Michael MacLeod, whose 40-person studio made the giant elephant statues at the entrance to Taj. ‘I took a big hit.’” [Associated Press, 6/28/16]

Atlantic City contractor: “If ethics or morality has nothing to do with business, [Donald Trump is] a very good businessman.”

“Marty Rosenberg, former vice president of Atlantic Plate Glass, was among two dozen contractors and their survivors caught in the aftermath of the Taj bankruptcy who were interviewed by The Associated Press. He says the way Trump handled the contractors shows the candidate is shrewd and clever, qualities his fans seem to like in the presidential candidate. But he says Trump won’t get his vote. ‘If ethics or morality has nothing to do with business,’ Rosenberg says, ‘he’s a very good businessman.’” [Associated Press, 6/28/16]

US Roofing Corp. President Dave Farragut: Donald Trump was “notorious for stringing people out and not paying.”

“Contractors, who often bear the brunt of corporate bankruptcy, regarded Trump ‘as a jerk and a bum,’ said Dave Farragut, president of United States Roofing Corp., a large roofing firm based in Norristown, Pennsylvania. Trump was a chronic haggler ‘notorious for stringing people out and not paying,’ according to Farragut, who said he experienced that firsthand on a $600,000 roofing job at Trump Taj Mahal. ‘It was a joke among all the subs that you’d tack on an extra 10 percent onto your bids’ to hedge against delayed payments, he said. ‘He was slow pay, everybody knew.’” [Press of Atlantic City, 8/10/15]

Atlantic City union president: Donald Trump’s failure to pay contractors was “jeopardizing these people’s medical coverage, and their pension benefits have not been paid.”

“Donald Trump is in arrears on more than $50 million in contractors’ bills for his Taj Mahal Casino in Atlantic City, the construction manager of the project said Monday. The last time Trump paid anything to his construction manager, who is still owed $1.6 million, was ‘sometime in March,’ said Craig Miner, a spokesman for the company, Perini Corp. of Framingham, Mass. Miner said he could not disclose how long it has been since Trump paid the subcontractors, who represent the bulk of the delinquent debt. Meanwhile, workers have been pulled off the job and some construction workers are in danger of losing medical insurance coverage because of Trump’s failure to pay his bills, said Tom Stapleton, president of a Local 27 of the Sheet Metal Workers Union in Atlantic City. Unpaid subcontractors have withheld benefit payments to union workers, Stapleton said. ‘They’re jeopardizing these people’s medical coverage, and their pension benefits have not been paid,’ Stapleton said.” [United Press International, 6/4/90]

Tom Stapleton: “There’s 60 boys on my bench because of’ Trump’s failure to pay.”

“Although it opened in April, construction at the Taj Mahal is continuing, including work on a theater, a health club and several restaurants. But Miner aid Perini is virtually finished with its part and will be off the job next week. [Local 27 of the Sheet Metal Workers Union Tom] Stapleton said there is a ‘tremendous amount of work left,’ but his men have been called off the job because of lack of payment. ‘There’s 60 boys on my bench because of’ Trump’s failure to pay,’ Stapleton said.” [United Press International, 6/4/90]

Trump Shorted His Employees

Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort faced a federal lawsuit from a dishwasher over failure to pay time-and-a-half overtime for three years. “But the lawsuits show Trump’s organization wages Goliath vs David legal battles over small amounts of money that are negligible to the billionaire and his executives — but devastating to his much-smaller foes. In 2007, for instance, dishwasher Guy Dorcinvil filed a federal lawsuit against Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club resort in Palm Beach, Fla., alleging the club failed to pay time-and-a-half for overtime he worked over three years and the company failed to keep proper time records for employees.” [USA Today, 6/9/16]

Donald Trump’s Trump Miami Resort Management LLC settled with 48 servers for failure to pay overtime. “Just last month, Trump Miami Resort Management LLC settled with 48 servers at his Miami golf resort over failing to pay overtime for a special event. The settlements averaged about $800 for each worker and as high as $3,000 for one, according to court records. Some workers put in 20-hour days over the 10-day Passover event atTrump National Doral Miami, the lawsuit contends. Trump’s team initially argued a contractor hired the workers, and he wasn’t responsible, and counter-sued the contractor demanding payment. ‘Trump could have settled it right off the bat, but they wanted to fight it out, that’s their M.O.’ said Rod Hannah, of Plantation, Fla., the lawyer who represented the workers, who he said are forbidden from talking about the case in public. ‘They’re known for their aggressiveness, and if you have the money, why not?’” [USA Today, 6/9/16]

Donald Trump paid $475,000 to settle a class action lawsuit filed by nearly 300 of his Los Angeles golf club employees that alleged unpaid wages, among other offenses. “Offscreen, hundreds of current and former Trump Organization employees have accused the company of being less than fair and more than tough. Multiple lawsuits have targeted Trump’s businesses over the years with allegations ranging from anti-union intimidation to hiring undocumented workers. In one case, the Trump Organization paid $475,000 to settle a claim with nearly 300 Los Angeles golf club employees in a class-action suit alleging unpaid wages and age discrimination, among other offenses.” [International Business Times, 3/14/16]


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posted September 17, 2016 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In light of the way CNN completely made up the Secret Service story, and the b*llshit outright lies over that reporter, I don't believe a single word of anything from the media. But even if all of that is true, it's pale by comparison to the millions of dollars the Clintons stole just from the white house alone, not to mention the amounts they get for pay to play. And I have just two words for you: National Security.

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posted September 17, 2016 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Can you imagine a world where John Kasich was the candidate and we were talking about real issues like, taxes, policies and the economy?

Naw,reality t.v. is more fun.


Newsflash: Trump talks about all three of those every single night of the week with capacity crowds and many that couldn't get in.

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