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posted September 17, 2016 04:07 AM            

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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_8JqT2atxD8

This video is not the one you think it is. It is just over a minute long, and it truly speaks for itself. Prepare for a shock. It's no wonder so many innocent people go to jail based on faulty perception of how they think things appear.

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posted September 17, 2016 04:11 AM            

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That reporter wrote a story about himself seeing Muslim tailgate parties celebrating on the roofs of buildings in the aftermath of 911. Trump made the same claim (with some hyperbolic in the actual numbers). Trump referred to the reporter's story as independent corroboration after others in the press called him a liar. The reporter then caved under pressure 14 years later from his media peers and recanted as to what he saw, and Trump was indicating that the reporter was groveling for forgiveness. They freeze-framed till they got the perfect frame that looked like Trump was imitating the reporter's disability and then circulated that photo. Then when people view portions of the video in that mind-set, yes, they see it as a mocking. That's the way the non-critical human brain works.

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posted September 17, 2016 04:18 AM            

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Another fixed conspiracy theory of yours.

Trump is an ableist. There is no denying that.

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posted September 17, 2016 04:24 AM            

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Sure he is. In your mind of denial of truth. So sad that you can't even admit the obvious. Was Cruz disabled? Or all the others Trump used those gestures with?

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posted September 17, 2016 04:27 AM            

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This is getting embarrassing for you at this point. I'm serious. The video evidence is irrefutable. Same hand gestures. Same voice. Different speeches about different people.

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posted September 17, 2016 04:31 AM            

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Now, I admit, Trump is horrible at impressions. All of the impressions are the same. He does a terrible Cruz. But he never made fun of a disability. To admit that truth to yourself is to admit you have thought wrongly about him all this time (at least about that issue).

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posted September 17, 2016 04:33 AM            

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His broad brandishing of mocking his opponents does not excuse the instance when his opponent (this time a reporter) had a visible disability.

You can attack me all you want. It doesn't make me change my stance on this, or erase the footage of him being an ableist.

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posted September 17, 2016 04:35 AM            

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No, I don't expect you to. This is for all the other people who seek truth and might find it to hold value. I didn't post this here for you.

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posted September 17, 2016 05:09 AM            

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Trump didn't even know the reporter had a disability. The reporter claims to have met him once, which Trump doesn't deny, but he doesn't remember him. Trump only knew that he wrote that article 14 years ago, and then he recanted.

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posted September 17, 2016 05:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Trump didn't even know the reporter had a disability. The reporter claims to have met him once, which Trump doesn't deny, but he doesn't remember him. Trump only knew that he wrote that article 14 years ago, and then he recanted.

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Your logic makes no sense. So he made fun of a stranger. Who does that? Who opens up their mouth and mocks somebody they've barely met? You really think his impulsivity and lack of forethought makes him qualified to be President?

I don't buy it, anyway. When he claimed to not know anything about David Duke, he said, "I don't know anything, so I can't say." Even though we now know that he knew who DD was, he just didn't want to go there. Yet, he doesn't know this guy but he's okay with mocking him? No. He was comfortable with mocking this guy, just like he was comfortable with mocking Cruz, who he knew pretty well at that point. Even if we go with your line of logic, it still doesn't make sense.

Face it. He knew what the guy looked like. He saw him as inferior and weak, and he mocked him in national television. He one upped the guy, in his mind. His impulsiveness and cruelty got him trouble.

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posted September 17, 2016 05:35 AM            

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I've seen this footage repeatedly, and there is no doubt that Trump was making fun of him. Trump falsely claims that he had no idea that he was disabled. Yet another lie. It's no coincidence that Trump flailed his arm, just like the reporter's arm. Trump was well aware of who this guy was.

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posted September 17, 2016 06:53 AM            

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That's not the video you think it is. It's just over a minute. Prove you care about the facts and watch it.

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posted September 17, 2016 06:57 AM            

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The media came down on Trump for his claim of seeing Muslims celebrating 911, which he did inflate the numbers with hyperbole, and Trump referenced the reporter's article. The reporter then recanted 14 years later. Trump knew his name only...from what the media was saying.

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posted September 17, 2016 06:59 AM            

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Yes, it appears there is no doubt. But when you are given more information about the context, you see a different perspective.

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posted September 17, 2016 07:19 AM            

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Yes, it's no coincidence Trump flailed his arm. That's how Trump impersonates people--non-disabled people--and has been for over a decade BEFORE the reporter incident. Trump has said lots of things. Good, bad, and ugly. But Trump never made fun of that reporter's disability.

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posted September 17, 2016 07:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
I've seen this footage repeatedly, and there is no doubt that Trump was making fun of him. Trump falsely claims that he had no idea that he was disabled. Yet another lie. It's no coincidence that Trump flailed his arm, just like the reporter's arm. Trump was well aware of who this guy was.

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posted September 17, 2016 07:21 AM            

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Cruz isn't disabled. What about that does not make sense to you? Nor are any of the others, yet Trump used the same hand gestures with all of them. Imagine that. And all of them before the reporter incident ever happened.

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posted September 17, 2016 07:23 AM            

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She is referring to the original video, which she thought it was. She didn't watch the one I posted at the time she made the post that you just quoted. I presume she will now.

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posted September 17, 2016 08:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Cruz isn't disabled. What about that does not make sense to you? Nor are any of the others, yet Trump used the same hand gestures with all of them. Imagine that. And all of them before the reporter incident ever happened.

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Of course Cruz isn't disabled.

What part of my reply doesn't make sense to you? Reread it.

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posted September 17, 2016 08:07 AM            

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Did you watch the video I posted?

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posted September 17, 2016 08:30 AM            

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Edited: if it's the same one as the one you posted about Trump's hand motions, yes. (I assumed it was bc of the close timing between posting both links - I thought you were just opening up a new topic for it.)

If it's a different one, then not yet.

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posted September 17, 2016 09:00 AM            

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Hahaha, nice find Randall. Those video clips of Trump waving his arms around in exactly the same way leftist loons insist was mocking a disabled reporter prove the old axion..."A picture is worth a thousand words".

Of course, leftists are deaf and blind to any facts which puncture and destroy one of their most cherished fantasies.

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posted September 17, 2016 10:33 AM            

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Nothing shocks me on this Forum anymore. A video of Hillary blowing someone's brains out would be justified somehow by the left. I do think many are waking up finally, as the polls are reflecting. Years of experience, a well-oiled political machine, and millions in ads, yet Trump is still ahead.

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posted September 17, 2016 10:37 AM            

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Can you imagine a world where John Kasich was the candidate and we were talking about real issues like, taxes, policies and the economy?

Naw,reality t.v. is more fun.

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posted September 17, 2016 10:38 AM            

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And wishing something while clicking your heels together three times still doesn't change the facts. Your fantasy of Trump making fun of a disability fails the evidence; therefore, it's only your opinion.

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