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juniperb
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posted October 27, 2016 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by Randall:
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The article isn't about Obama's erection. It was just mentioned in passing

Originally posted by Randall:

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If this were Trump flaunting his erect penis, I'm sure none of you would be defending it.

So it`s about Trumps erection then?

You`re trying to eat the candy from both ends of the stick.

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posted October 27, 2016 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one thinks of Obama as sleazy? And he can can shove his erection in everyone's face because of that? Doesn't THAT make him sleazy? In other words, if you find a man attractive, that makes sleazy behavior okay? Is Bill Clinton sleazy?

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posted October 27, 2016 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm saying that if a guy only has one strike against him (Obama) that is seen differently than when he has MANY strikes against him already (Trump.)

But of course you think Trump's an angel no matter how disgusting he is.

The only thing that makes sexual misconduct objectionable in YOUR eyes is if a Democrat does it.

It has nothing to do with the victims and the humanity of the situation.

Just stupid politics.

Anyway, like so many other Great Men, men of fortune and power, Bill Clinton and Trump are both pedophiles apparently, drawing from the same pool of sex slaves:
http://news.vice.com/article/the-salacious-ammo-even -donald-trump-wont-use-in-a-fight-against-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton

About convicted child rapist Jeff Epstein, Trump is quoted as saying:

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"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York magazine in a 2002 profile of Epstein written three years before Epstein began to be investigated. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

Younger side?

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Jeffrey Edward Epstein (born January 20, 1953) is an American financier.[1] He worked at Bear Stearns early in his career and subsequently formed his own firm, J. Epstein & Co. In 2008 Epstein was convicted of soliciting an underage girl for prostitution and given an 18-month prison sentence, of which he served 13 months.[2] He is a registered level three sex offender.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein

What fantasy are you going to construct out of thin air, to wave these damning facts away?

Waiting and curious.

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juniperb
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posted October 27, 2016 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now this sleazy thread IS about erections.

Ridiculous!!

A desperate move if I ever saw one.

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posted October 27, 2016 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The "younger side" could be in the 30s as far as Trump is concerned. Not everyone knows about someone's hidden private life when they know them in the public arena. But Bill Clinton flew all over the world with Epstein and his underage girls, so Bill has no excuse.

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posted October 27, 2016 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well you didn't read the article and won't read anything that could alter your fixed opinion. Nor will it seem at all fishy to you that Epstein took the 5th when asked under oath if Trump and he were ever together in the company of underage girls. And the other evidence of ties there.

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posted October 27, 2016 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What you don't know about legal procedures would fill a book.

Epstein couldn't take the 5th to only questions he didn't want to answer. He had to take the 5th to all questions about his illegal activities. Your notion that Epstein took the 5th on a question about Trump but answered other questions....is a non starter.
You can not selectively invoke your 5th Amendment right.

Perhaps you don't recall Lois Lerner under questioning about her IRS activities in the House Committee meeting. She took the 5th to ALL questions.

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posted October 27, 2016 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He took the 5th to protect himself, not Trump.

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posted October 27, 2016 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What you don't know about legal procedures would fill a book.

Who cares? Point is, he had the chance to go on record as innocent and declined. No, that isn't a tacit admission of guilt. But combined with everything else there is enough to make an objective thinking person suspicious.

However, you only see how Democrats misbehave. Funny.

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posted October 27, 2016 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
He took the 5th to protect himself, not Trump.

As if this is knowable.

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posted October 27, 2016 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The "younger side" could be in the 30s as far as Trump is concerned.

I just can't see a rich guy in his early 50s bringing special to the "youth" of Epstein's girlfriends, while referring to women in their 30's.

Especially when Epstein is a convicted pedophile.

Implausible.

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posted October 27, 2016 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was years before his conviction. Why is that implausible? And people plead the 5th to protect themselves. In fact, you can't plead the 5th to protect someone else. Well, you can try. It's called contempt.

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posted October 27, 2016 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go on record as innocent? The 5th is a fundamental core of jurisprudence.

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posted October 27, 2016 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Why is that implausible?

As I said, men their early 50's don't regard women in their 30's as YOUNG and wouldn't make special note of it.

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posted October 27, 2016 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Go on record as innocent? The 5th is a fundamental core of jurisprudence.

If he had said there, "NO, Mr. Trump and I were never together in the company of underage women" wouldn't it have been a declaration of innocence?

I'm not pretending to be a lawyer.

What I AM saying is, Trump is horrible with women, and his own words prove it, and his actions prove it, and it's vile, and there is nothing to admire whatsoever in how he has treated my gender.

So is it really a huge stretch of the imagination for me to consider that his affiliation with Epstein was shady?

No

Technicalities of law don't even apply here, that's a diversion. Obviously I'm not a lawyer so no sense trying to shame me over that. I'm talking about looking at someone's character and determining the likelihood of whether or not certain allegations are true.

To me, it looks likely that Trump is guilty of statutory rape.

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posted October 27, 2016 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

^ Never saw a pic of Obama like that.

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posted October 27, 2016 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

^ Or that.

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U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump kisses the cheek of a young audience member onstage after honoring her request for a selfie at a campaign rally in Portsmouth, New Hampshire Jan, 16, 2016.

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It's interesting to look at the allegations about how Trump ran his modeling agency. One wonders, why was he running that business in the first place except he liked being around young women, including teenagers?
http://usuncut.news/2016/10/07/trumps-history-of-trafficking-young-girls-may-be-what-ends-his-chance-at-the-white-house/

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posted October 27, 2016 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one said you were a lawyer, but you are an American, so you should understand the Bill of Rights. Trump runs the largest beauty contests in the world. And Obama couldn't run a lemonade stand. So, no, you would never see Obama in a pic like that. He also did a poor job running this country. He has spent more than all other presidents combined. And he is the only president to never reach 3% GDP. We are currently at only 1.2%! Yet, he still has the unmitigated gall to flaunt his erect penis in public, which Trump has never done. The fact that some people may find Obama attractive and love seeing his erection still doesn't make the act any less creepy.

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posted October 27, 2016 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-sex-slave-makes-disturbing-accusations-bill-clinton/

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posted October 27, 2016 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/13/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known.html

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posted October 27, 2016 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think nobody is denying Clinton's a creep.

The question is, why does the same type of evidence that convinces you that Clinton is guilty (proof of ties to Epstein, other pieces of evidence, witness testimony) completely fail to convince you that Trump *might* be guilty of something similar? When it's basically the same type of evidence?

What makes you so completely positive that Trump is innocent?

There is no LOGIC behind your bias.

Also what does his professional life have to do with hugging and planting a big fat kiss on a little girl who asked for a picture?

Since when do little girls want older men grabbing and kissing them? The girl looks uncomfortable there and it's no wonder. That is not a NORMAL thing he's doing there. Old men should know you don't grab little kids like they are your grandchildren.

Yes, jwhop was insulting me for not knowing the law. Aside from the fact that he's never quizzed me and was making ass-umptions about what I know and don't know, is he a lawyer?

Does he really have so much room to talk?

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posted October 28, 2016 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

No one can selectively invoke their 5th Amendment Right. That means they can't choose to answer one question under interrogation but not another. If they do answer any question...when being interrogated, they are deemed to have "Waived" their 5th Amendment right.

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posted October 28, 2016 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure I understand.

I was just talking about your attitude problem and how you were trying to shame me for not being a lawyer:

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What you don't know about legal procedures would fill a book.

Well of course. But you meant that as an insult.

Anyway, I did have the context wrong, that was just a conversation with a lawyer representing one of his victims, apparently. If the transcript is TRUE he said he would have to take the fifth. Which one can do in conversations, of course, just using "Take the fifth" as a colloquial expression.

Not that I really trust much that gets reported in the media.

I do trust Trump's own words, pictures, and overall behavior...that informs my impression of his untrustworthy character.

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posted October 28, 2016 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't give me that crap. You said this:

"If he had said there, "NO, Mr. Trump and I were never together in the company of underage women" wouldn't it have been a declaration of innocence?"

If Epstein has said that during an interrogation into his activities, he would have WAIVED his 5th Amendment rights. Epstein's attorney would have stuffed a sock in Epstein's mouth to prevent him from answering any questions.

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posted October 28, 2016 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I SAID it was just a conversation with a lawyer.

Not in court.

Sorry if that is "crap" to you, but it's what the article says.

So please, you can stop boasting that you know how the 5th works in an official sense. We get it!

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