posted October 25, 2016 02:59 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Randall:
Trump has a foul mouth. But Bill will be using the power of the white house to assault women at his leisure.

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Trump sexually assaults women

Trump sexually assaults women

Trump sexually assaults women

Trump sexually assaults women

posted October 25, 2016 03:01 PM            

Sexual assault means nothing to you?

posted October 25, 2016 03:23 PM            

Trump never said he sexually assaulted any woman.

posted October 25, 2016 05:55 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Memo to those with reading comprehension disorders.

Trump never said he sexually assaulted any woman.

If you disagree, then name the
woman/women Trump said he sexually assaulted.

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Oh right!

If he had said the NAMES of the girls he sexually assaults, *that* would make it real!
But since he didn't name them, that negates what he said about how he treats them!

Silly us.

Your logic is so perfect.

So all the girls who tell you their own names mean nothing.

Only Trump is allowed to name his victims. And only by NAMING them do they become real victims, not when he actual gropes, rapes, or spies on them.

It's the NAMING wherein the victimization consists.

posted October 25, 2016 06:18 PM            

Trump says he mistreats people.

People say, "Yes, he did mistreat us."

Other people say, "Yes, I'm a witness, he did mistreat them."

But in reality, according to jwhop, no mistreatment occurred!

Everyone just decided to tell the same crazy lies!

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Oh but wait. Trump is perfect. He doesn't even lie.

posted October 25, 2016 11:41 PM            

Now, I can name the women..some of the women your little icon Kommander Korruption raped, groped and otherwise sexually assaulted. They're the very same women your other utterly corrupt icon, Hillary The Corrupt attacked as victims of her husbands attacks.

What a hypocrite you are.

posted October 26, 2016 12:07 AM            

Juanita isn't the only one: Bill Clinton's long history of sexual violence against women dates back some 30 years

(Editor's Note: The following story is an update of previously-published information and contains some new material.)

By Daniel J. Harris
& Teresa Hampton
Capitol Hill Blue

Women have been charging Bill Clinton with sexual assault since his days as a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford 30 years ago.

A continuing investigation into the President's questionable sexual history reveal incidents that go back as far as Clinton's college days, with more than a dozen women claiming his sexual appetites leave little room for the word ''no.''

Juanita Broaddrick, an Arkansas nursing home operator, told NBC's Lisa Myers five weeks ago she was raped by Clinton. NBC shelved the interview, saying they were confirming all parts of the story, but finally aired it Wednesday night.

Broaddrick finally took her story to The Wall Street Journal, which published her account of the brutal rape at the hands of the future President, followed by The Washington Post and some other publications.

But Capitol Hill Blue has confirmed that Broaddrick's story is only one account of many attempted and actual sexual assaults by Clinton that go back 30 years. Among the other incidents:

•Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton sexually assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford where the future President was a student in 1969. A retired State Department employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed that he spoke with the family of the girl and filed a report with his superiors. Clinton admitted having sex with the girl, but claimed it was consensual. The victim's family declined to pursue the case;

•In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blue confirmed the incident. The woman, tracked down by Capitol Hill Blue last week, confirmed the incident, but declined to discuss it further and would not give permission to use her name;

•In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. She complained to her faculty advisor who confronted Clinton, but Clinton claimed the student ''came on'' to him. The student left the school shortly after the incident. Reached at her home in Texas, the former student confirmed the incident, but declined to go on the record with her account. Several former students at the University have confirmed the incident in confidential interviews and said there were other reports of Clinton attempting to force himself on female students;

•Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton's gubernatorial campaign, said he raped her in 1978. Mrs. Broaddrick suffered a bruised and torn lip, which she said she suffered when Clinton bit her during the rape;

•From 1978-1980, during Clinton's first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor were aware of at least seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. One retired state trooper said in an interview that the common joke among those assigned to protect Clinton was "who's next?". One former state trooper said other troopers would often escort women to the governor's hotel room after political events, often more than one an evening;

•Carolyn Moffet, a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met then-governor Clinton at a political fundraiser and shortly thereafter received an invitation to meet the governor in his hotel room. "I was escorted there by a state trooper. When I went in, he was sitting on a couch, wearing only an undershirt. He pointed at his penis and told me to suck it. I told him I didn't even do that for my boyfriend and he got mad, grabbed my head and shoved it into his lap. I pulled away from him and ran out of the room."

•Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen (from her first marriage), told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. Close friends of Ward, however, say she still maintains privately that Clinton forced himself on her.

•Paula Corbin (Jones), an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with an $850,000 cash payment.

•Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation's capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. Miss James has since married and left Washington. Reached at her home last week, the former Miss James said she later learned that other women suffered the same fate at Clinton's hands when he was in Washington during his Presidential run.

•Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton's leased campaign plane in 1992, says Presidential candidate Clinton exposed himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks about oral sex. A video shot on board the plane by ABC News shows an obviously inebriated Clinton with his hand between another young flight attendant's legs. Zercher said later in an interview that White House attorney Bruce Lindsey tried to pressure her into not going public about the assault.

•Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public.

In an interview with Capitol Hill Blue, the retired State Department employee said he believed the story Miss Wellstone, the young English woman who said Clinton raped her in 1969.

''There was no doubt in my mind that this young woman had suffered severe emotional trauma,'' he said. ''But we were under tremendous pressure to avoid the embarrassment of having a Rhodes Scholar charged with rape. I filed a report with my superiors and that was the last I heard of it.''

Miss Wellstone, who is now married and lives near London, confirmed the incident when contacted this week, but refused to discuss the matter further. She said she would not go public with further details of the attack. Afterwards, she changed her phone number and hired a barrister who warned a reporter to stay away from his client.

In his book, Unlimited Access, former FBI agent Gary Aldrich reported that Clinton left Oxford University for a "European Tour" in 1969 and was told by University officials that he was no longer welcome there. Aldrich said Clinton's academic record at Oxford was lackluster. Clinton later accepted a scholarship for Yale Law School and did not complete his studies at Oxford.

The State Department official who investigated the incident said Clinton's interests appeared to be drinking, drugs and sex, not studies.

"I came away from the incident with the clear impression that this was a young man who was there to party, not study," he said.

Oxford officials refused comment. The State Department also refused to comment on the incident. A Freedom of Information request filed by Capitol Hill Blue failed to turn up any records of the incident.

Capitol Hill Blue also spoke with the former Miss James, the Washington fundraiser who confirmed the encounter with Clinton at the Four Seasons Hotel in Washington, but first said she would not appear publicly because anyone who does so is destroyed by the Clinton White House.

''My husband and children deserve better than that,'' she said when first contacted two weeks ago. After reading the Broaddrick story Friday, however, she called back and gave permission to use her maiden name, but said she had no intention of pursuing the matter.

"I wasn't raped, but I was trapped in a hotel room for a brief moment by a boorish man," she said. "I got away. He tried calling me several times after that, but I didn't take his phone calls. Then he stopped. I guess he moved on."

But Miss James also retreated from public view this week after other news organizations contacted her.

The former Miss Moffet, the legal secretary who says Clinton tried to force her into oral sex in 1979, has since married and left the state. She says that when she told her boyfriend, who was a lawyer and supporter of Clinton, about the incident, he told her to keep her mouth shut.

"He said that people who crossed the governor usually regretted it and that if I knew what was good for me I'd forget that it ever happened," she said. "I haven't forgotten it. You don't forget crude men like that."

Like two other women, the former Miss Moffet declined further interviews. A neighbor said she had received threatening phone calls.

The other encounters were confirmed with more than 30 interviews with retired Arkansas state employees, former state troopers and former Yale and University of Arkansas students. Like others, they refused to go public because of fears of retaliation from the Clinton White House.

Likewise, the mainstream media has shied away from the Broaddrick story. Initially, only The Drudge Report and other Internet news sites have actively pursued it. Since initial publication of this story, a few mainstream media outlets have expressed interest in interviewing the women.

The White House did not return calls for comment. White House attorney David Kendall has issued a public denial of the Broaddrick rape.

posted October 26, 2016 12:57 AM            

The American public forgave Bill Clinton because he created jobs and blasted the Dow Jones to new heights. The great, intelligent, forward thinking leader Dubya along with his wise mentor Cheney then brought the economy crashing down with tax cuts for the rich and an unnecessary invasion of Iraq.

Scholarly Obama has kept the ship just about afloat, even raising Dow Jones to more than double of the lows during Dubya's time.

Thus, even if Trump is involved in sexual controversies, the American Public will forgive him if he creates more jobs than Obama did, and if the Dow Jones reaches 28000 or something in 2020. The stock market is most important for American Families as the maximum savings are parked in the Stock Market whether by Banks or Pension Funds or Mutual Funds. Obama will be noted in history for giving American savings 10% plus annualized returns in his Presidency.

But if Hillary wins and fails the economy, even the most honest governance will be forgotten and it should be straightforward Republican victory in 2020 provided they catch up to the new American Demographics.

posted October 26, 2016 01:02 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Trump never said HE had sexually assaulted any woman.

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He says "I just kiss them, I don't even ask."

That can easily be an assault.

If I'm in an elevator with a guy and he lurches at me and kisses me, it's an assault.

YES

YES IT IS.

quote:

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Originally posted by jwhop:
You don't mind the sexual predator Bill Clinton being back in the White House raping and sexually assaulting interns and other women

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Amazing how many lies you are telling about me on this thread.

Look at all the "Clinton is awesome" threads I've made here? None.

Notice how many times I've told you I would never vote for Clinton? Several!

Guess you just like pretending your brain is the size of a walnut, just for kicks!

posted October 26, 2016 01:07 AM            

Women accuse Trump of assault, jwhop cannot see these women whatsoever, he says they are nameless, he says the only thing that matters is what TRUMP says about what he did.

Double standard of course

But the way people abandon logic and consistency just for the sake of this dog-and-pony-show politics is really flabbergasting!

Don't PRETEND you actually care about any victims of assault in the White House, jwhop. Spare women your very fake and contrived concern.

posted October 26, 2016 08:16 AM            

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Where is the presumption of innocence?

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He lost it with his admission of guilt.

quote:

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He says "I just kiss them, I don't even ask."

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posted October 26, 2016 08:35 AM            

Well at least you paid me the honor of actually constructing a thoughtful response instead of the usual one-liner "go team go" stuff. Thanks for at least stepping up to the plate.

This is the thing: Men constantly get away with sexual assault and rape. I know because I'm a woman and they got away with it with me and they got away with it with my friends. "They let me get away with it" really means that by adulthood we've learned we have no recourse, unless it's a full-blown rape with tons of evidence, nobody is going to care.

A woman isn't going to call the police if a guy just kisses her without her permission, though it can be really disturbing if there is force involved, as there was in some of these allegations.

But if a man comes out and admits he kisses women without their permission and furthermore gropes them, then women are going to understand he's a serial abuser, and someone like that needs to be taken down for the safety of other women. It only becomes clear what the magnitude of the problem is, in this case, when you have:

a) Trump saying he does it
b) Several women confirming it

I believe the women did not plot to come out just before the election. I believe Access Hollywood plotted to release the tape before the election and that is what compelled the women to come forward.

Again, the main issue for me is not whether or not you're voting for Trump.

It's how CALLOUSLY a person treats the whole matter of sexual abuse while they are supporting Trump. How they apply a double standard saying Bill Clinton is a creep but Trump is not, when there is no logical basis for doing so. I don't remember Clinton being found guilty of sexual assault in court, so where is the presumption of innocence for him? There is none. Why? Because people understand that when there is enough smoke, there is fire.

posted October 26, 2016 08:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Those women may give dozens of cues that they want to be kissed without saying, "I give you explicit permission that you may kiss me now." Though it might be a great idea for all men to get a disclaimer signed from now on.

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Most of the stories are of Trump kissing strangers or women he is not romantically involved with whatsoever. For example:

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Another revelation from the incendiary New York Times report: In 2005, receptionist Rachel Crooks was allegedly assaulted by Trump in the elevator at Trump Tower. She was working as a receptionist for a real-estate firm in the building when she ran into Trump in the elevator. After they shook hands, he allegedly refused to let go, kissed her on the cheeks, and also on the mouth. “It was so inappropriate,” Crooks told the Times. “I was so upset that he thought I was so insignificant that he could do that.” Trump has also denied this allegation.

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Assume that when first meeting a women you may not kiss them on the lips.

posted October 26, 2016 09:23 AM            

It's because the ones who do assault women, assault many women.

posted October 26, 2016 10:11 AM            

Trump is pure as the driven snow by comparison to the criminal treasonous duo of Bill and Hillary Clinton. This is the couple who outright stole art, china and silverware from the White House when they made their exit. This criminal duo actually stole from the American people but her supporters think Trump's "Comments" are worse than criminal theft, treason and rape.

But, Hillary is otherwise "Disqualified" from ever holding a public office. And, I mean "Disqualified" by the laws of the United States. That won't matter to her sycophants either.

What's really funny is that Hillary is totally FOR what every left leaning person here...and there's been an army of left leaning posters here over the years, have railed against for more than 15 years.

Globalism
Big Pharma
Military Industrial Complex
Big Banks
Wall Street
Genetically Modified Foods
Forced Vaccinations
Greed
Political corruption
Financial corruption
Institutional corruption

But Hillary's XX Chromosome set outweighs all her criminality and Treason and that of her rapist husband.

In the eyes of Hillary's sycophant supporters, her Chromosome set of XX even outweighs the Laws of the United States...which "Disqualify" Hillary The Corrupt from every holding public office. Just to be clear here, the Office of President of the United States IS a "Public Office".

Just to be more clear, Hillary The Corrupt DID destroy public records of the United States, more than 32,000 such records over which she had custody and control.

So:

18 USC Ch. 101 field-end:cite : RECORDS AND REPORTS:

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States.

posted October 26, 2016 11:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Consent can be implicit.

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It was NOT implicit in the stories we are being told, Randall. No way was he given implicit permission, if you look at these incidents case by case.

Barging into changing rooms? Peeping Tom? That's okay with you?

Or, is it just okay when Trump does it?

You have an ulterior motive in seeing the matter in a light of doubt, and nothing will change your mind. You have your Republican badge to uphold, your identity-politics game to play, your pride to defend, because somehow you got your own pride wrapped up in this craziness which is beneath you.

But don't call Clinton a predator if you are thinking girls give their "implicit consent" left and right, and therefore may not complain when men violate them. As I said to jwhop, spare us your fake and selective sympathy.

quote:

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Originally posted by Randall:
For it to be a sexual battery, there must be intent.

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I intend to not have random men shove their tongues down my throat because they believe "I can get away with it. I'm famous."

posted October 26, 2016 12:14 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Imagine that. Supporters of Hillary

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Which I am not, by the way.

As I made clear several times.

I want NEITHER of them in the White House.

I agree Clinton is worse than Trump.

But he's not "awesome"!

They're both crooked.

posted October 26, 2016 12:19 PM            

It IS kind of funny how incapable you are of understanding me when I say I don't support Clinton.

Like there is just cotton in your ears.

posted October 26, 2016 12:28 PM            

There are only 2 candidates running who have any chance of being elected, Hillary The Corrupt and Donald Trump.

All your posts have a decided Anti-Trump bias.

It's like saying..."I'm not a Hillary supporter but I'd never vote for Trump." Who's left? The Tooth Fairy?

posted October 26, 2016 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
All your posts here [b]ARE in support of Hillary The Corrupt.

There are only 2 candidates running who have any chance of being elected,[/B]

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Not in the slightest bit! How dare you say who I am supporting? How dare you box me into this disgusting two-party racket?

That's YOUR dilemma, not MINE. YOU are the one who has succumbed to propaganda and brainwashing and relinquished your power to break out of the corruption, not ME.

AND IF YOU COULD READ

***IF***

You would see me saying over and over again that the real problem is...

the way you are flippantly disregarding Trump's sexual assaults, and making excuses for what is inexcusable.

THAT is gross and has nothing to do with the elections.

I see guys cheering on a sex predator.

It's revolting.

But hey why am I not surprised that a person like you, who are incapable of carrying on a real conversation, supports Trump, who is incapable of consistently making sense?

posted October 26, 2016 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Trump didn't admit to anything. It was locker room banter.

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That's what YOU call it.

To a woman, a guy boasting he can grab them by the pu**y does not sound like "banter"... it sounds threatening and scary.

And how does he know he CAN do it, if he doesn't do it?

If I say I CAN do a backflip from a standing position, that means I have done it before. That's how I know I can do it.

quote:

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Originally posted by Randall:
That doesn't make it right, but it wasn't any kind of admission.

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In YOUR eyes it's not an admission, even though it IS an admission.

"I don't even ask, I just kiss them."

That's an admission.

quote:

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Originally posted by Randall:
Due to the suspicious timing of the allegations, I doubt any of the incidents happened at all.

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What is so suspicious about him admitting something, it's released, and women come forward saying "Yes, he did exactly what he said. He did it to me."

The only thing that was timed is the release of his own admission. The reaction is not suspicious at all. It's what's to be expected, considering what he said was true.

BUT OF COURSE it's easy for you to dismiss all these women.

You're a guy!

Guys don't see how common sexual assault is because it doesn't HAPPEN to you. You're all in dreamland where all the women are fine and merely overreacting when we are mistreated.

Male privilege.

Hey at least you are enjoying it for all it's worth and not troubling yourself in the least with the issues women have. Wouldn't want to spoil your good time considering harsh realities would you?

Nope, just keep whistling along in your dreamland....