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Topic: Final Debate and the Winner is....
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etherealsaturn
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posted October 21, 2016 07:21 PM
  
The proper question is why the hell is any voter fraud happening in the least? The worst and hardest rigging to stop is the unethical practices by politicians and their teams.What we can prevent, and shouldn't be happening:
-Dead people should not be voting in elections. Absurd that even has to be mentioned.
-Illegals should not be voting.
-Citizens should not be voting more than once. IP: Logged |
Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
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posted October 21, 2016 07:32 PM
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juniperb
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posted October 21, 2016 08:47 PM
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Why not just conclude I'm a pig farmer with purple hair?
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juniperb
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posted October 21, 2016 08:57 PM
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What we can prevent, and shouldn't be happening:
-Dead people should not be voting in elections. Absurd that even has to be mentioned.
-Illegals should not be voting.
-Citizens should not be voting more than once.
Of course not!! In a perfect world it would never happen, agreed. But we live in a world of human beings that will cheat if it is in their nature. You wouldn`t, I wouldn`t, Randall wouldn`t but there are that select few who would. They,most likely, are the ones who firebomb, encourage bloodshed and civil upsets if their candidate does not win.
It is disheartening to hear people say that Democrats,Independents, and Liberals are cheaters and will cheat. The election will be stolen when Trump don`t win. That is what I`m hearing from too many this election. Bullbutter. It will be fair and square and Trump is his own worst enemy. ------------------
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Randall
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posted October 21, 2016 09:30 PM
Only the Dems are committing voter fraud. It's not a select few. Crooked Hillary will stop at nothing to steal this election.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted October 21, 2016 09:47 PM
Hillary is the biggest cheater ever to infest American politics. The havoc she would wreak in the white house is incalculable.IP: Logged |
Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
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posted October 21, 2016 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Wait a minute...are you judging me or talking behind my back ?
You farm pigs and have purple hair? If so, I really AM psychic.  IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 22, 2016 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Accidental Americans who see America as The Den of Iniquity in the world are free to exit the shores of the United States. Those of us who are tired of hearing your Progressive Socialist claptrap wish you would do so. If you had the courage of your stated convictions, that's exactly what you'd do.You'll find no walls preventing your escape and no one will be at the borders of the United States to turn you back. When you arrive at your destination, you can go to any US Consular Office and easily renounce your US Citizenship. Go, and be happy.
Trump, and his supporters, are the ones who seem to think that there's something wrong with this country. "Make America Great Again". He's free to leave, should he care to. He certainly has enough money. He could buy an island, and take the worst Trump supporters with him. That could make America great again. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 22, 2016 04:13 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
This is why I would never vote for her, either.Partial birth abortion. Absolute nightmare. 
I read an article written by a woman who had to have one done. It killed her to do it - she had one dead baby inside her, and the other one was to live several hours once delivered, and then die. Just awful. She had to wait twelve hours for the State to decide to let her do it, and having to go through with that was the worst thing of her life. Her doctor told her that she should, to save her own life, and because she had six children at home (she was a Mormon). People make it sound like they're happening willy nilly, because people love murdering babies. That isn't so, from what I've heard. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 22, 2016 04:17 AM
I can relate to what she's written. Not all of it, but a good portion.
http://www.facebook.com/taraaustenweaver/posts/10210961888667042 IP: Logged |
etherealsaturn
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posted October 22, 2016 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Hillary is the biggest cheater ever to infest American politics. The havoc she would wreak in the white house is incalculable.
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juniperb
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posted October 22, 2016 10:02 AM
Only the Dems are committing voter fraud. And I suppose only Dems cheat on their taxes and spouses too . ------------------
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juniperb
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posted October 22, 2016 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
You farm pigs and have purple hair?If so, I really AM psychic.
No to the purple hair, still just plain auburn. We did rescue 2 late season born piglets that need a winter home and food. 1/2 a psychic is better than no psychic  ------------------
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etherealsaturn
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posted October 22, 2016 10:08 AM
I don't think it's just Democrats that are doing these things. They are just the ones getting caught. Like juniperb said, cheaters will be cheaters; no matter their registered party. Campaign supporters encourage others to rip up voter registrations and the rigging of primary ballots...because they favor the opposition. Democrats were caught doing this, on camera! Hillary's team has minions in the media, covering for her, making excuses, feeding her information and debate questions before a debate. The media in return emails her team to make sure the articles written about her put her in a good light, and her team changes whatever they don't like. That is rigging an election! When there is a CLEAR media bias from a news network, that an average voter sees and believes, because it's news after all, right? NO. CNN has really taken a nosedive this year, I have a hard time believing anything they say anymore. At least you know what you're getting into when you watch MSNBC or Fox. This is manipulation by the press. When your network talks more about rape allegations(that may have been set up by the opposition) more than Wikileaks, that proves corruption within the system...that's manipulating fraudulently, that is rigging the election. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted October 22, 2016 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Hillary is the biggest cheater ever to infest American politics. The havoc she would wreak in the white house is incalculable.
This mantra will become louder and angrier as Trump pushs himself further and further away from the electoral vote . Look, he did it to himself but he will claim "outside" forces stole his goodies. And his supporters have bought into the theft; hook, line and sinker. The media is slanted, yes. The votes are stolen. no Will he gracefully accept he lost, hell no 17 days to go....... electoral map 262 Clinton/Kaine
Toss Ups 112
Trump/Pence 164
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elect ions_electoral_college_map_race_changes.html ------------------
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teasel
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posted October 22, 2016 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by etherealsaturn:
I don't think it's just Democrats that are doing these things. They are just the ones getting caught. Like juniperb said, cheaters will be cheaters; no matter their registered party.
Trump admitted to it. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted October 22, 2016 12:47 PM
"Trump admitted to it."Exactly what did Trump admit to? The conversation is about vote rigging, vote fraud, election stealing. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 22, 2016 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"Trump admitted to it."Exactly what did Trump admit to? The conversation is about vote rigging, vote fraud, election stealing.
Someone was talking about cheating. I also don't believe that if this is going on, that only the Democrats are doing it (the rigging, etc). But you are so biased, that you will believe any rumour that's spread about a Democrat. I at least check out the rumours about Trump. IP: Logged |
Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
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posted October 22, 2016 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
I read an article written by a woman who had to have one done. It killed her to do it - she had one dead baby inside her, and the other one was to live several hours once delivered, and then die. Just awful. She had to wait twelve hours for the State to decide to let her do it, and having to go through with that was the worst thing of her life. Her doctor told her that she should, to save her own life, and because she had six children at home (she was a Mormon).People make it sound like they're happening willy nilly, because people love murdering babies. That isn't so, from what I've heard.
I don't mean to sound judgmental but I don't know how anyone in their right mind who understands what partial birth abortion is could ever support it under any circumstances whatsoever. It's different than lethal injection. In this case that you mentioned, I don't have enough information to understand the whole thing, but there is absolutely no good reason to brutally murder a baby who is only going to live a few hours anyway. One can die peacefully or in torment and agony. Partial birth abortion is the latter. I know my tone is fierce and it's nothing against you. I just ADORE babies and get really upset by this, and I do not trust Hillary for many reasons, but above all, because she supported this. IP: Logged |
Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
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posted October 22, 2016 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by juniperb:
We did rescue 2 late season born piglets that need a winter home and food.
Like Charlotte's Web.  IP: Logged |
etherealsaturn
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posted October 22, 2016 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
Someone was talking about cheating. I also don't believe that if this is going on, that only the Democrats are doing it (the rigging, etc). But you are so biased, that you will believe any rumour that's spread about a Democrat. I at least check out the rumours about Trump.
Cheating in the political sense is what I was talking about... These are not rumors, these are things that have taken place. When we talk about the corruption of Hillary, it's not a rumor...these are real situations that she got herself into. I have checked out the rumors about Trump too. I'm not going to support someone who is going to screw up and put the country in further shambles. I look into ALL of these stories. You have to do your own research because you can't rely on the major news outlets anymore regarding this election. I have come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter if rumors about Trump are disproved because people already have a preconceived judgment on him based on blatant lies or misrepresentation and just won't have it. Prove me wrong...There is literal proof right in front of your faces and you still think it's rumors...pfft. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 23, 2016 08:30 AM
If that kind of cheating goes on, I believe it happens on both sides, otherwise Bush never would have won, either time. So, is it all rigged, every time? Do "the powers that be" decide who we have as President, and when it's the "turn" of a Democrat or Republican? IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 23, 2016 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
I don't mean to sound judgmental but I don't know how anyone in their right mind who understands what partial birth abortion is could ever support it under any circumstances whatsoever.It's different than lethal injection. In this case that you mentioned, I don't have enough information to understand the whole thing, but there is absolutely no good reason to brutally murder a baby who is only going to live a few hours anyway. One can die peacefully or in torment and agony. Partial birth abortion is the latter. I know my tone is fierce and it's nothing against you. I just ADORE babies and get really upset by this, and I do not trust Hillary for many reasons, but above all, because she supported this.
I was horrified by the idea of it, too. This is the article: http://medium.com/@cecilyk/**** -you-trump-my-baby-was-ripped-out-of-my-womb-because-i-was-going-to-die-2f9799f52db7 Her organs were shutting down. She was dying. I will email you the article, because the word censor is blocking part of the link, with asterisks. My mother had an abortion during the allowed time. She chose that over killing herself because of what she was going through with the father, because she already had me and my sister. So she called a hotline (more than once), and someone helped her. She actually met the woman who spoke to her so many times, in person one day. I don't think she would have survived, if she'd kept the baby. So many people think that an abortion during the allowed time, is just something done on a whim (I'm not talking about you - I'm thinking of other people I know). IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted October 23, 2016 09:23 AM
Thanks for sending the article. I understand why she is so upset and aggravated.The procedure she went through couldn't have been partial birth abortion, though. She said "I was moments away from seizures, comas, and death — yes, ************ , DEATH—when a team of doctors surrounded my bed and told me I had to terminate the pregnancy or my surviving son and I would BOTH die." This is partial birth abortion: quote:
The surgery is preceded by cervical preparation which may take several days. Laminaria, natural or synthetic rods that absorb moisture from the cervix, mechanically dilate the cervix. Misoprostol can be used to soften the cervix further; an intact D&E can only be performed with 2-5 centimeters of cervical dilation.[4] Feticidal injection of digoxin or potassium chloride may be administered at the beginning of the procedure to allow for softening of the fetal bones or to comply with relevant laws in the physician's jurisdiction.[3] During the surgery, the fetus is removed from the uterus in the breech position, with mechanical collapse of the fetal calvarium if it is too large to fit through the cervical canal.[4] Decompression of the calvarium can be accomplished by incision and suction of the contents, or by using forceps. If the fetus is in a vertex presentation, forceps can be used to turn it to a breech presentation while in the uterus (internal version).[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intact_dilation_and_extraction Pulling a live baby out by the feet, crushing the skull if necessary, and sucking their brains out. I didn't want to say it. It wouldn't be okay to do that to a child in the NICU, no matter how sick they were. And it's not okay to do it in the birth canal. If I, as a mother, was faced with the choice of dying or subjecting my child to that, I would choose death. I see people as people. You don't go sucking their brains out. Period. Humans are savage but we don't even treat factory farm animals that way. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted October 23, 2016 10:16 AM
You said:"Trump admitted to it." Vote rigging, voter fraud..now show us that's true. When and where did Trump admit he was or is rigging elections and/or committing voter fraud. IP: Logged |
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