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Topic: Sen. Bernie Sanders on Budget & Affordable Care Law Repeal
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teasel
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posted January 04, 2017 09:27 PM
  
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4641271/sen-bernie-sanders-budget-affordable-care-law-repeal IP: Logged |
GeminiKarat
Moderator Posts: 3634
From: Austria
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 05, 2017 02:47 PM
I liked the video. I thought that two things will happen.
#1 reduce taxes, because he does not want to pay them.
#2 erase Obamacare, because Obama made fun of him.I did like what this person said and it is good to see that there are politicians out there that are still working for the folk. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 05, 2017 04:11 PM
ObamaCare, making Americans sick for the last 6 years.More than half a TRILLION dollars taken out of the senior citizen Medicare fund to pay for this insane rape of the American health care system. And, Bernie The Commie voted for ObamaCare. Now, Bernie The Commie wants to lecture America about what a good health care system looks like. America had the best health care delivery system in the world...until democrat Socialists broke it. So, save your bullshiiite lectures for the tourists Bernie...and kiss ObamaCare goodbye. democrats own ObamaCare, all the ObamaCare lies to get it passed and the utter failure of this Marxist Socialist Progressive pile of hot steaming mess. It already cost democrats control of the House of Representatives, the US Senate and now, the White House....and these Socialist Progressive democrat defectives continue to defend it. No sale. IP: Logged |
GeminiKarat
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From: Austria
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 06, 2017 04:29 AM
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Originally posted by jwhop:
..... So, save your bullshiiite lectures for the tourists Bernie...and kiss ObamaCare goodbye.....
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jwhop
Knowflake Posts: 9250
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 06, 2017 11:58 PM
Bernie The Commie for President...of Austria.IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 18653
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted January 07, 2017 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Bernie The Commie for President...of Austria.
 Just because you voted yourself a Commie connie KGB president, Jwhop?
Nah! We say pass  
On a serious note (not that the above is not outrageous), it's been 48h and no sign of forum flooding by fierce anti-communist, anti-socialist SJW and el conspirator Jwhop about the Big Commie Hack. Who's gonna take you seriously now?
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jwhop
Knowflake Posts: 9250
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
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posted January 07, 2017 10:50 AM
Serious holes in your head are letting the sawdust run out.Trump is as far from being a Communist as you are from being an America loving citizen. Sorry, that just can't be fixed. IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted January 07, 2017 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Serious holes in your head are letting the sawdust run out.
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ahm, you are walking down a very thin line- oh no, you have just crossed the line! IP: Logged |
Tulipe
Knowflake Posts: 1765
From: France
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted January 07, 2017 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by jwhop:
America had the best health care delivery system in the world...
I'm going to think that you were high on drug when you wrote that. But high or not I'm still laughing my head off at your words as usual. IP: Logged |
Tulipe
Knowflake Posts: 1765
From: France
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted January 07, 2017 11:18 AM
I thought the "no insults" rule applied to all the forums. Why is it en exception here ? And for Jwhop only ?IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 18653
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted January 07, 2017 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by jwhop:
America loving citizen.
I am going to purposefully ignore your first sentence for now and ask: I am sorry, someone is not an America loving citizen when they protest RUSSIA interfered with and manipulated the US presidential election? Really? Dictator got in your brain that much?
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Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 3586
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 07, 2017 03:33 PM
Not only has Trump admitted there WAS interference by Russia but he is excusing it. Nice America Loving there. Im sure Putin will be a great leader for you, jwhop: imprisoning all protestors and assassinating all competition. It takes a weak man to need a Big Daddy to save us from ourselves. IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 3586
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 07, 2017 03:34 PM
Commie... youre betraying your age LambchopIP: Logged |
Delilah423
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posted January 07, 2017 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
I thought the "no insults" rule applied to all the forums. Why is it en exception here ? And for Jwhop only ?
I've been wondering about that myself. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 74127
From: From a galaxy, far, far away...
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 07, 2017 07:52 PM
A wider latitude is allowed in this Forum due to its political nature, and it applies to everyone equally.IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 3586
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 09, 2017 04:35 AM
An American doctor on the British NHS...
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/nhs-american-doctor-privitisation-i-ha ve-a-message-a7207706.html IP: Logged |
GeminiKarat
Moderator Posts: 3634
From: Austria
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 09, 2017 06:05 AM
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@Catalina
May I ask:
Is it normal to make this $100 co-payment in the U.S.A.?
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Enneline
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posted January 09, 2017 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
A wider latitude is allowed in this Forum due to its political nature, and it applies to everyone equally.
seriously? Really? 
I may call someone senile and under*ucked? IP: Logged |
Tulipe
Knowflake Posts: 1765
From: France
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted January 09, 2017 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
A wider latitude is allowed in this Forum due to its political nature, and it applies to everyone equally.
thank you Randall, I'll abide happily by this rule. I'll say anything I want for the sake of politics. IP: Logged |
nordicsoul
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posted January 09, 2017 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by jwhop:
America had the best health care delivery system in the world...until democrat Socialists broke it.
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REALLY???? IP: Logged |
nordicsoul
Knowflake Posts: 1462
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posted January 09, 2017 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by Catalina:
An American doctor on the British NHS...
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/nhs-american-doctor-privitisation-i-ha ve-a-message-a7207706.html
I suspect that anybody who has ever lived in both: a western European country and the US would never choose US over Europe health care system. I lived in the US for several years (before Obamacare) and in several Western European countries. As per personal experience (not based on propaganda or fake reports). all the 5 European countries I have lived have better health care system than the US... and wait... they all are far less expensive... of course this is my subjective assessment in terms of the quality (not the cost as this is well known), but from my experience, the US healthcare system compared with many other in the developed worked is super expensive and low quality in terms of achievements. It has only brought benefits to insurers and the mafia of physicians with unbelievable undeserving high income. Obamacare has tried to solve part of the problem of the system. it has many gaps, but far better than the previous one with 50,000,000 people uninsured. A real shame for a "developed" country to have so many people uninsured.
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Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 3586
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Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 09, 2017 11:23 PM
GemKarat
Copays vary from policy to policy and service to service.. but they are common in most policies. Many people cannot afford them so avoid doctors. The British complain bitterly about the NHS because after 30yrs privatization it is a shadow of its former self and the cuts keep coming.. there as here the conservatives have striven to discredit by defunding.. but it is still possible for anyone rich or poor to get treatment with no charge, unless they prefer to pay thru private insurance. When my mother visited me in London our GP came to see my sick daughter and my American mother was astounded, she hadn't had a doctor housecall in years despite very good insurance and a long relationship with her doc... since I've been back in the states I have never heard of such a thing! Universal healthcare has its limits but to be able to see a practitioner when you need one saves so many lives. Despite Reagan's Edict most hospitals charge whether patients can afford it or not, ands if they can't, bye bye credit rating IP: Logged |
nordicsoul
Knowflake Posts: 1462
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posted January 10, 2017 02:32 AM
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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
[QUOTE]@Catalina
May I ask:
Is it normal to make this $100 co-payment in the U.S.A.?[/QUOTE]The bigger problem is not these outpatients co-payments but the ones you may incur in some emergency cases. what follows is a real case of a friend of mine about 5 years ago. She has an insurance provided by her company. so, not an inunsured, just to give some context. she had an appendicitis and went to the hospital. she was misdiagnose and sent home. of course, after she came back to the hospital with stronger pain, the appendicitishas became a peritonitis so rather than a simple surgery and few days recovery, she had to go to all the process that entails a peritonitis.. anyway, this INSURED woman had to pay OUT OF POCKET 15,000 dollars. I am not making this up!!!! so, the insurer ONLY PAYS to a certain amount, if the cost goes above that amount, you are screwed. of course it depends on the insurance you have. but the question is, do you know of any case in western europe where someone has paid 15,000 (as co-payment) for an emergency treatment? my friend has a good job and could affort to pay the co-payment. imagine someone without that capability with a debt of 15,000 for a misdiagnosed appendicitis and an insurance who only pay what is convenient to them. so why people pay insurance if they still have a high risk of paying huge amount of money? in that case, is not better to put the money you pay for an insurance in a saving account and have that money for the moment you need it? the insurance only choose the healthy (not anymore due to Obamacare) and even in these cases, they deny full payment in an emergency situation? this for me reveal the gaps of the system which is tailor made for the insurers. IP: Logged |
GeminiKarat
Moderator Posts: 3634
From: Austria
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 11, 2017 04:13 AM
@Catalina
@nordicsoulI like to hear a personal opinion made up by personal experience. I read the balance from one insurance company out of the U.S.A. and with what both of you have said I had the opportunity to make up my mind. Thank you very much for the input! IP: Logged |
teasel
Knowflake Posts: 9269
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posted January 11, 2017 06:41 AM
In England, we also had doctors coming to the house, if needed. If not, mum made sure my butt was sitting in the waiting room to see someone - because we could. There was a bit of a wait for hospital beds, when it came to some things, but I don't know how common that was, or still is. It's also better than not getting there at all, because you can't afford to see someone. IP: Logged |
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