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Topic: Hypocrite Much?
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Randall
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From: From a galaxy, far, far away...
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posted January 31, 2017 06:21 PM
  
Obama turns away 91 refugees right before he leaves office! Where's the outrage?
http://www.thegatewaypundit.co m/2017/01/obama-refused-91-refugees-sent-back-castros-hell-hole-2-days-inauguration-liberal-media-silent/?mtcid=cf IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted January 31, 2017 07:36 PM
thegatewaypundit  quote:
The Gateway Pundit is a hard-right website oft cited by such scholars as Matt Drudge. The website spends most of the day complaining about Barack Obama and liberals, and the occasional flirtation with outright white supremacists. It is a fairly popular blog, allegedly getting 4-5 million views each month, once again proving that being popular doesn't necessarily make you right.
suprise suprise http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit
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Randall
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posted January 31, 2017 08:39 PM
Didn't you hear about Obama changing the Cuban policy on CNN?IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted January 31, 2017 08:46 PM
Maybe a strong leftist slant is more preferred for you.
http://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/01/12/politics/us-to-end-wet-foot-dry-foot-policy-for-cubans/index.html?client=safari IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted January 31, 2017 08:58 PM
It receives only seconds of news coverage.
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mike-ciandella/2017/01/13/86-seconds-nets-barely-mention-obama-ending-wet-foot-dry-foot IP: Logged |
Catalina
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Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 01, 2017 01:00 AM
Turning away a bunch of applicants is not a blanket ban. Those people were not on airplanes on the way here when it happened.. when are you going to stop blaming Obama for everything Trump does?IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted February 01, 2017 04:12 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Catalina:
Turning away a bunch of applicants is not a blanket ban. Those people were not on airplanes on the way here when it happened.. when are you going to stop blaming Obama for everything Trump does?
And, Randall, why aren't you praising Obama, since he turned people away, as Republicans would have wanted? IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 01, 2017 04:54 AM
It's not a ban. It's a freeze. I'm showing the hypocrisy of the left, hence the title. Obama also froze Iraqi immigrant applications for 6 months. Where was the outrage? Oh yeah, that's right--there was none.IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted February 01, 2017 05:25 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
It's not a ban. It's a freeze. ....
He himself calls it a BAN!!! http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/826060143825666051 Also, it's hard to believe it's not a real muslim ban facing the fact that nations with large amount of terrorist groups are not included. His business interests might be one of the reasons. yeah, i know Randall explained the alleged reason to me: lame excuse, no sense, i don't buy it +
where are his condolences for the victims of Quebec??? There was a terrorist attack in his neighbour country and not a single word of compassion? Maybe because the victims are Muslims? +
look at this twitter account: is this the way a president should talk? Seriously? IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 01, 2017 09:43 AM
He can refer to it as a ban, but the order wasn't written by him. He doesn't have business interests in Indonesia, which has the largest Muslim population, or in most of the other 45 Muslim nations.IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted February 01, 2017 10:13 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/02/donald-trumps-indonesian-business-partner-considers-running-for-president IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted February 01, 2017 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Enneline:
He himself calls it a BAN!!! http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/826060143825666051 Also, it's hard to believe it's not a real muslim ban facing the fact that nations with large amount of terrorist groups are not included. His business interests might be one of the reasons. yeah, i know Randall explained the alleged reason to me: lame excuse, no sense, i don't buy it +
where are his condolences for the victims of Quebec??? There was a terrorist attack in his neighbour country and not a single word of compassion? Maybe because the victims are Muslims? +
look at this twitter account: is this the way a president should talk? Seriously?
Thank you!! And Randall, I already told you I don't pay attention to your posts that are attached to a smirk. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 01, 2017 11:28 AM
I wasn't aware of that (if true), but what about the other 40 nations?IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted February 01, 2017 11:53 AM
40 Trump Hotels?  Haven't check each one, but hunch says personal interests are involved. Plus, the need to disguise this as "not a Muslim Ban". Not working. Sad! You are too happy for your own good, Randall I see on Twitter, just now, that GOP suspended rules to approve Trump nominees despite Demo boycott. Is this legally possible, any precedent? ------------------
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Faith
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posted February 01, 2017 11:59 AM
Politics are sickening to me these days. @Randall, I don't see how you can fail to differentiate between a President refusing certain people, and a President banning several whole countries. It's a matter of scale. Also people assume there is some vetting going on, on an individual basis. We assume there is information being gathered on people, and they may be refused entry accordingly. No Fly List. The fact that this vetting process exists (we think) makes it all the more difficult to understand why we need to ban whole countries. Where is there any reason given for the ban? Is it on whitehouse.gov? Or are people not even entitled to know? That is dangerous to me: when people accept draconian measures without question. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted February 01, 2017 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You are too happy for your own good, Randall
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LeeLoo2014
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posted February 01, 2017 12:15 PM
Funnily enough, there is a coup going on in Romania as well, just as we speak, the worst in 30 years. Executive order passed in the middle of the night, after days of protest, by the newly elected, corrupt (former communist party), the pardon executive order, intended to release all corrupt politicians who are now behind bars. It was released at midnight (on purpose) and put thousands of people in the streets all night. I am just making some artsy banners to get back there. Power to the people http://www.yahoo.com/news/romania-adopts-controversial-decree-easing-penal-code- 002849072.html
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Faith
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posted February 01, 2017 12:54 PM
Crazy timesIP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 01, 2017 01:07 PM
I'm happy for the same reason many millions of Trump supporters are happy...because he is doing exactly what he promised us he would. Trump didn't choose these 7 nations--the Obama administration did (the Terrorist Travel Protection Act). It's about keeping us safe. And the majority of Americans approve. I can't believe the left is for extreme vetting for gun purchases, but against extreme vetting of refugees from terror nations, especially when ISIS says this is how they will enter America.IP: Logged |
Delilah423
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posted February 01, 2017 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I see on Twitter, just now, that GOP suspended rules to approve Trump nominees despite Demo boycott. Is this legally possible, any precedent?
LeeLoo, It was just from Committee, not the entire Senate, so they are only violating their self-made rules, not the Constitution or any law. The nominations still have to be voted on by the entire Senate, but since there are 100 Senators and 52 Republicans and it only requires a majority vote... Two Republican Senators have announced they will vote against the Education Secretary, who so far seems to be the most controversial appointment, but that makes a probable 50-50 tie, so in that case the Vice President gets a vote and he will surely vote yes. ETA: I'm not sure about precedent. Suspending Senate or House rules is not entirely unheard of, but they usually have rules for how to suspend rules! IP: Logged |
Delilah423
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posted February 01, 2017 07:01 PM
Stay safe, LeeLoo!IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted February 01, 2017 09:27 PM
Thank you, Delilah and Faith, and Delilah for the clarification. I am OK, I barely left the protest before confrontations by planned instigators occurred. The fight will continue ------------------
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Elysia
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From: Gotham
Registered: Aug 2015
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posted February 01, 2017 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Politics are sickening to me these days. @Randall, I don't see how you can fail to differentiate between a President refusing certain people, and a President banning several whole countries. It's a matter of scale. Also people assume there is some vetting going on, on an individual basis. We assume there is information being gathered on people, and they may be refused entry accordingly. No Fly List. The fact that this vetting process exists (we think) makes it all the more difficult to understand why we need to ban whole countries. Where is there any reason given for the ban? Is it on whitehouse.gov? Or are people not even entitled to know? That is dangerous to me: when people accept draconian measures without question.
:edit: Will ask if I can share some examples. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 01, 2017 11:30 PM
The reason is that these 7 countries have no central authority. Their governments have collapsed.IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted February 02, 2017 08:45 AM
^ But it's not even just them who are facing problems. IP: Logged |
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