posted February 08, 2017 05:05 PM            

Our country has had racist policies on immigrants thruout our history, sometimes more sometimes less. Its an ongoing issue that continuous protests will not fix.

posted February 08, 2017 05:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
Peony
I have trouble with the logic that says
"Tou didn't protest sooner so dont bother now"

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Catalina, I'm not following. Do people say this? It makes no sense.

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Because
A) people did protest, in their millions, against going into, and staying in Iraq. They were ignored and scolded so most either gave up in the pressures of everyday life, or went underground.

B)However it was as much Donny's promise to stop meddling in the ME as anything (and Clinton's warmongering platform) that got him elected.

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Yes, the protests were global. I remember one in San Francisco in February, 2003, a month before the bombs started falling. We learned then the protests didn't work with the Bush Administration.

I'm not optimistic he's going to do this, which would mean breaking with the deep state, although on Russia, we'll see. Also, he wants to go after ISIS, so meddling in the ME will continue.

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D) We have hit boiling point so let's build on it, not scold the frogs

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Respectfully, you can call it what you will. I call it pushing back against partisan and media driven propaganda and demonizing people.

posted February 08, 2017 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
Yes. Restrict and target..for extreme vetting.. you know, the thing our new Prez said wasnt happening.. until he had to acknowledge Obama did it first. What Obama did not do was lay a blanket ban on all people. Nor did he let them "flood" the country..

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This I didn't know. Thank you for making the distinction between the two administration policies.

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Our country has had racist policies on immigrants thruout our history, sometimes more sometimes less. Its an ongoing issue that continuous protests will not fix.

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Thanks for pointing this out.

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Meanwhile we do not honour the treaties we, as illegal aggressive immigrants, made with the former inhabitants of the land.. and despite action in Congress, a firestorm of social media info, and Executive involvement, he is now pretending he doesn't know he was countermanding the legsl process set in motion before his election at Standing Rock. Maybe because he refused to be"polluted" by briefings from his predecessors..maybe just to make his blatant favouring of big oil look accidental?

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Catalina, all great points you've made!

posted February 08, 2017 08:58 PM            

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Recently a Mosque was burned and damaged in Texas.

Had this happened in India, Muslims would have protested on the streets, and the Right Wing Nazi Government would send special forces to shoot them down at point blank range. Or blind them by shooting pellets into their eyes [1000 Kashmiri Youth in India were blinded last year for protesting]. None of the dead/injured would be compensated, and Muslims would be blamed as terrorists and survivors would be arrested for years without trial. This is not a fiction or a vent, this is what happened in 1992 and 1993.

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This is the same country that gave us the great saints and sages like Adi Sankara, Buddha, Anandamayi-Ma, Sri Ramana, and of course Mahatma Gandhi. I noticed this happened during a Saturn-Pluto cycle. I'm not looking forward to the upcoming conjunction. Esoteric astrologer, Douglas Baker, says India is ruled by Capricorn, its heights and depths symbolized by the goat with a tail of a fish. These two examples seem to illustrate the tremendous range of this sign.

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Now, Guess what happened in Texas ? Americans of all ethnic groups [More than 90% White Christians I am told from my Texas Sources] raised $650,000.00 to help rebuild the Mosque. And the Jewish American Brethren were no less generous. They have opened the doors of their Synagogue for Muslims to conduct their prayers.

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This is a wonderful example in the affirmative!

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This is exactly why God will continue to Bless Americans, irrespective of the atrocities committed in the Name of America by Dark Occult Led Spooks who force US Soldiers to attack Arab Nations and Install Dictators to help Big Oil Corporations.

If the American Public were to know the shameful crimes committed in their name, they would lynch the Establishment.

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In a way, Trump's election was a "lynching of the Establishment." In the interview with Bill O'Reilly that's got the political class so upset, Trump peeled away the pleasing mask exposing the ugly, true face of the deep state's ruthless foreign policy.

posted February 10, 2017 04:11 AM            

"The Trump White House evidently released a list of the 78 major terrorist attacks on the US Monday. 4 of the 7 countries in the travel ban did not make the list. I hope they wear steel toed shoes in the WH.

Instead, the incidents listed on the White House terrorism list identified France, the United States and Belgium as the countries supplying the most anti-Western terrorists."

posted February 10, 2017 04:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
This was no surprise. That is most left-leaning court in the country and also the most overturned.

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Randall, not an unexpected partisan argument. Just to be clear, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals denied the government's motion for a stay of the lower court's TRO stopping the ban, that's all.

posted February 10, 2017 03:59 PM            

It's not going to matter. This is just the opening round and a real court will find Trump has the absolute authority to ban prospective immigrants outright or temporarily suspend immigration and/or visas to any individuals or groups of individuals he deems a danger to Americans or the United States for national security reasons.

posted February 10, 2017 04:42 PM            

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Yes, all the little terrorist supporters are out in the streets protesting Trump keeping Americans safe.

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Obviously, you care about keeping Americans safe. Apparently, in your mind, opposing the ban equals supporting terrorists. That's the same kind of black and white thinking that says if one questions the CIA and the FBI regarding its assertions about Putin and Russia hacking the U.S. election, claims made without any proof, or that Trump saying he thinks it's a good idea to get along with Russia, this means they're "Putin's stooges." Neither of which is true.

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It's not going to matter. This is just the opening round and a real court will find Trump has the absolute authority to ban prospective immigrants outright or temporarily suspend immigration and/or visas to any individuals or groups of individuals he deems a danger to Americans or the United States for national security reasons.

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It is only the opening round. See, we can agree on something.

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Now, to all those who cry "racism" at the drop of every hat or to every word. Stuff it.

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It must be frustrating for you, and I'm not being sarcastic.

posted February 10, 2017 05:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The 9th Circuit didn't even address the law itself that grants Trump those powers. Kangaroo Court anyone?

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posted February 11, 2017 01:25 PM            

Trump is leading the far left lunatic press around like puppy dogs chasing their own tails. Every single day Trump throws out another issue for these Crash Dummy intellects to obsess over while Trump goes further down the road to implementing the agenda he was elected to implement.

On the political front, leftist lunatic democrats are posturing, obstructing and encouraging their little thug protestors to riot, burn and smash store fronts and even university property. It takes real pygmy intellects to not understand these democrat antics make rational Americans want to throw up.

On the legal front, the Constitution and law are squarely on Trump's side. He is fully empowered and authorized to implement his temporary ban or even an indefinite ban from nations where their citizens can't be properly vetted or even identified.